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- [00:58:32] <MrCurious_>
definate video artifacts after installing omap4 extras
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- [01:52:43] <prpplague>
av500: ping
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- [03:13:39] <djszapi>
Hi! I guess it is not possible to feed the pandaboard with power via an usb cable from my laptop ? As in, I need an 5 V power supply either way, don't I ?
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- [03:14:32] <prpplague>
djszapi: yes it is possible
- [03:14:53] <prpplague>
djszapi: however most usb ports only provide 500mA and the panda generally needs 1000mA for base operations
- [03:15:19] <djszapi>
prpplague: then how is it possible ? :o
- [03:15:19] <prpplague>
djszapi: you would need to use a dual host port cable similar to what is used for external cd rom drives for laptops
- [03:15:39] <djszapi>
I do not have such a cable.
- [03:15:52] <djszapi>
I bet, it is simpler to just get a power supply instead.
- [03:16:18] <djszapi>
especially since I do not have free usb capacity on my laptop, not even speaking of two.
- [03:16:24] <prpplague>
djszapi: http://www.amazon.com/Connectland-CL-CAB20042-5-Pin-Power-Cable/dp/B002N2EL6C
- [03:19:40] <djszapi>
what is the "most common" power supply for this board, if any ?
- [03:20:06] <prpplague>
djszapi: they are listed on the resources page at pandaboard.org
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- [04:22:35] <oneman>
djszapi, I am using a battery to power my board with good success
- [04:23:28] <oneman>
its called an anker astro2
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- [04:45:35] <djszapiN9>
Hey. Does Qt work on pandaboard ?
- [04:45:53] <ron_frown>
why wouldnt i
- [04:45:55] <ron_frown>
it
- [04:46:44] <djszapiN9>
because it is not a lightweight fw.
- [04:47:21] <ron_frown>
I run some qt apps on my galaxy nexus
- [04:47:27] <ron_frown>
runs pretty damn fast
- [04:57:50] <djszapiN9>
galaxy nexus != panda
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- [05:09:12] <dm8tbr>
djszapiN9: think for a second. it runs on the N9, which is an OMAP3630. The pandaboard dons an OMAP4430 or 4460 (in case of ES)...
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- [05:12:00] <dm8tbr>
also this is basically an PandaboardES, just as a fancy product ;) - http://sagestechblog.blogspot.com/2012/04/booting-nemo-on-galaxy-nexus-i9250.html
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- [05:12:18] <HcE>
QT should work fine, you'll struggle a bit getting the SGX GLES driver stuck into it, but when you do, it'll be blazing fast (quote from #linux-omap)
- [05:13:00] <djszapiN9>
I do not need gles
- [05:13:07] <HcE>
approach is similar to the N9, you'll just have to get newer GFX drivers
- [05:13:20] <HcE>
nobody needs it, but you know you want it down the line ;)
- [05:13:35] <djszapiN9>
why would I ?
- [05:13:45] <HcE>
faster rendring
- [05:13:52] <djszapiN9>
I am only about a controller app (cli)
- [05:14:12] <HcE>
I said GLES, but also think about the optimization for OMAP4 in general
- [05:14:30] <HcE>
e.g. use of display sub system, SGX, etc.
- [05:14:39] <djszapiN9>
no need for gles in my case.
- [05:14:56] <HcE>
okay, then the software renderer should suite you perfectly
- [05:15:10] <HcE>
remember to enable neon (hard floats) when configuring Qt
- [05:15:33] <dm8tbr>
do you even need the computing horse-power then? you might as well go with a beaglebone instead
- [05:16:13] <djszapiN9>
HcE, thing is, I do not wanna build qy myself.
- [05:16:19] <djszapiN9>
qt*
- [05:16:34] <dm8tbr>
install angstrom, bliss
- [05:16:41] <djszapiN9>
i kinda hoped for available packages under ubuntu working oob.
- [05:16:48] <dm8tbr>
http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/
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- [05:21:08] <HcE>
djszapiN9: can't see it in the pool for qt, but I might be looking at the wrong Ubuntu mirror
- [05:22:01] <HcE>
djszapiN9: I've both built Qt myself, and installed it through my distos package system. It isn't that difficult to cross-compile. Although, neven on a Pandaboard.
- [05:22:07] <HcE>
s/neven/never/
- [05:22:30] <djszapiN9>
so just theoritically saying...
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- [06:14:22] <djszapi>
HcE: thanks either way. I have just picked up a usb hub
- [06:14:29] <djszapi>
trying to feed the board from USB.
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- [06:23:17] <_av500_>
feed the panda from a power supply
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- [06:23:42] <djszapi>
I cannot do that without a power supply.
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- [06:31:18] <djszapi>
ok I found some power supplies around:
- [06:31:19] <djszapi>
1) http://www.actualc.com/web_v2/actual_search_single.asp?ref=KSAFC0500200W1EU
- [06:31:33] <_av500_>
djszapi: use the power supply that came with your usb hub
- [06:31:41] <_av500_>
most likely its 5V 2A
- [06:31:57] <djszapi>
_av500_: I got only a usb hub :)
- [06:33:05] <djszapi>
2) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Axis-PS-H-model-SA110D-05-Switching-Adapter-/150493333955
- [06:33:21] <djszapi>
(it is actually not okay)
- [06:34:18] <djszapi>
3) http://www.pcliquidations.com/p7710-cisco-systems-adp-12gb
- [06:34:21] <djszapi>
Can I use any of them for sure ?
- [06:34:45] <djszapi>
as for me, as a layman, 1) and 3) seem to be okay.
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- [06:43:36] <_av500_>
2) should be ok too
- [06:44:12] <_av500_>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-100V-240V-to-DC-5V-2A-Power-Adaptor-Convert-Supply-US-/160687265436
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- [06:45:09] <_av500_>
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Elpac-WRI2011-AC-Adapter-Power-Supply-20-Watts-5V-4A-/330430485403
- [06:45:12] <_av500_>
etc
- [06:45:15] <_av500_>
so many on ebay
- [06:45:40] <XorA>
morning
- [06:45:48] <djszapi>
_av500_: ok, I have used the first one.
- [06:48:10] <djszapi>
so the most common development usage is the minicom way for acting on the device ?
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- [06:48:38] <djszapi>
also, what is the build environment for things you use ? Is there something like scratchbox for Harmattan, or chroot back then at meego times ?
- [06:48:39] <_av500_>
minicom is a to see the serial console
- [06:48:51] <_av500_>
djszapi: ubuntu wants you to compile native
- [06:48:56] <_av500_>
angstrom is a cross build
- [06:48:59] <_av500_>
as ia android
- [06:49:02] <_av500_>
as is*
- [06:49:13] <_av500_>
you are free to scratchbuild
- [06:49:50] <djszapi>
_av500_: so I should build the stuff on the device if I select ubuntu underneath ?
- [06:50:11] <_av500_>
well, the point of a large distro like ubuntu is that you should be able to apt get most of what you need
- [06:50:24] <_av500_>
then build your hello world on top of thta :)
- [06:50:31] <djszapi>
all I need is qtcore.
- [06:50:45] <_av500_>
i guess ubuntu has that
- [06:50:47] <djszapi>
then I will port qtserialport to that
- [06:50:48] <_av500_>
no idea
- [06:50:52] <djszapi>
and then the controller cli daemon.
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- [07:02:10] <djszapi>
which ubuntu image do you recommend ? http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Prebuilt_ubuntu_binaries
- [07:02:47] <djszapi>
perhaps this one ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPHeadlessInstall
- [07:03:03] <dm8tbr>
ask in #ubuntu-arm if you need ubuntu support
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- [07:12:19] <djszapi>
so the minimal-fs is mostly meant for testing ?
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- [07:16:08] <_av500_>
yes
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- [07:24:50] <djszapi>
okay, I have disassemblied a usb pendriva
- [07:25:02] <djszapi>
pendrive*, hope its stuff is okay into the pandaboard as sd card
- [07:25:18] <djszapi>
hmm not. :/
- [07:25:22] <dm8tbr>
WTF?
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- [07:33:38] <haltdef>
wat
- [07:35:14] <LetoThe2nd>
m??in pardners
- [07:35:48] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: you're trying to boot from the usb stick? will not work ;)
- [07:36:15] * LetoThe2nd should make a trigger for "will not work", given the fact how often i seem to need it in the last few days
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- [07:37:59] <djszapi>
LetoThe2nd: I had a left-over usb pendrive
- [07:38:03] <djszapi>
so I got the chip out
- [07:38:18] <djszapi>
but micro sd is apparently not good. Anyway, luckily enough I found one sd card in the storage room. :)
- [07:38:30] * LetoThe2nd doubts seriously that it will work, though.
- [07:38:40] <djszapi>
Kingston 4 GB. I think that should be fine.
- [07:38:50] <LetoThe2nd>
without modification, the panda will only boot from sd, and NOT usb
- [07:39:23] <LetoThe2nd>
(and i don't know if there is an easy mod for usb.)
- [07:40:00] <haltdef>
I just whacked the bootloader on the smallest SD I could find
- [07:40:08] <haltdef>
32MB is too small to be useful anywhere else :P
- [07:40:22] <LetoThe2nd>
that will work :)
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- [07:40:49] <haltdef>
I could never get that working properly
- [07:40:49] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: don't do it, it's rather unsupported.
- [07:40:57] <haltdef>
that's probably why
- [07:41:15] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: better use a standard version first, and then debootstrap from there in a second step.
- [07:41:15] <haltdef>
I managed to get a working server-type install of debian armhf bootstrapped though
- [07:41:43] <haltdef>
even got wifi working .. gave up on accelerated X11 pretty fast though
- [07:42:41] <LetoThe2nd>
running off sd debootstrapping onto usb, and then just switch root over... should be relatively easy. and will give the cleanest ubuntu to start from, then.
- [07:43:04] <LetoThe2nd>
someone should write a guide for that *duckncover*
- [07:43:19] <Defiant>
LetoThe2nd: Better a video guide
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- [07:43:55] <djszapi>
LetoThe2nd: I am unsure whether 4 GB is enough for a full ubuntu
- [07:44:06] <XorA>
LetoThe2nd: doesnt the ubuntu kernel use initramfs anyway so it should handle it if its told SD is /boot and usb is /
- [07:44:26] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: it is enough. easily.
- [07:44:30] <djszapi>
good
- [07:44:48] <djszapi>
Also, I am unsure how to put an fs without an sdcard "reader" onto this.
- [07:44:51] <LetoThe2nd>
XorA: it should. hence, switching root should be easy after the debootstrap
- [07:44:56] <vstehle>
djszapi: there are packages for precise armhf in this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/omap-trunk/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=precise you might want to give them a try :)
- [07:45:17] <XorA>
LetoThe2nd: would be much more reliable than u-boot USB anyway
- [07:45:18] <djszapi>
or is there something on pandaboard why it is worth connecting to it via the serial port ?
- [07:45:28] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: thats easy. not at all. you need the ability to read/write sd cards besides your pandaboard.
- [07:46:14] <djszapi>
vstehle: do you recommend any of them ?
- [07:46:26] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: the serial interface is there for... well, a serial console.
- [07:46:44] <djszapi>
yes, of course.
- [07:46:58] <haltdef>
serial console is *essential* if you're building up your own rootfs
- [07:47:22] <djszapi>
that is what I said.
- [07:47:29] <djszapi>
and then I got a reply "no not all".
- [07:47:36] <djszapi>
so waiting for the alternative then...
- [07:48:01] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: the "not at all" was on how to get data onto the sd card.
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- [07:48:31] <djszapi>
well, obviously not via the slow X baudrate...
- [07:48:44] <djszapi>
that would only mean I have a minicom interface to the pandaboard...
- [07:51:10] <LetoThe2nd>
XorA: well my ubuntu always worked using the serial port
- [07:51:44] <djszapi>
interesting, nothing behind minicom appearing after powering up the pandaboard panel.
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- [07:51:58] <XorA>
LetoThe2nd: mine did when I used debootstap, but the "official" one always blew up if you booted with console=ttyS0, plymouth couldnt handle it
- [07:52:03] <haltdef>
baud rate of 115200?
- [07:52:17] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: well what do you expect without a properly prepared sd card?
- [07:52:46] <LetoThe2nd>
XorA: interesting.
- [07:52:51] <XorA>
not that I ever liked plymouth anyway, I like to see my error messages :-D
- [07:52:53] <djszapi>
LetoThe2nd: anything
- [07:53:03] <djszapi>
LetoThe2nd: there are board where there is a small terminal by default
- [07:53:09] <djszapi>
boards*
- [07:53:13] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: wrong. the correct answer is "nothing"
- [07:53:14] <XorA>
nothing worse than a black screen for an hour as fsck progresses :-D
- [07:53:21] <vstehle>
djszapi: for SGX support pvr-omap4*, for X11 EXA xf86-video-omap (which will use SGX in turn)
- [07:53:25] <djszapi>
LetoThe2nd: wrong, correct answer is anything.
- [07:53:34] <djszapi>
without knowing the pandaboard, and experimenting.
- [07:53:56] <djszapi>
vstehle: isn't sgx for graphics ?
- [07:53:59] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: if you wonder why, then finally look up the manual, and try to find the rom memory where you thought the bootloader might reside and give you "anything"
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- [07:56:07] <djszapi>
hmm, I do not have DVI nor HDMI cable :/
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- [07:59:24] <haltdef>
why not :o
- [08:00:05] <vstehle>
djszapi: SGX == 3D accelerator
- [08:00:38] <vstehle>
djszapi: X11 EXA is 2D
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- [08:01:00] <djszapi>
vstehle: exactly, so I do not need it.
- [08:01:14] <djszapi>
haltdef: because nobody bought one yet
- [08:01:34] <haltdef>
can't borrow one from a nearby tv+stb? :P
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- [08:01:51] <haltdef>
as for dvi, your pc doesn't use it?
- [08:01:54] <djszapi>
I think I used TV a decade ago
- [08:01:58] <vstehle>
djszapi: I thought you were after X11 acceleration ?
- [08:02:04] <djszapi>
vstehle: nope.
- [08:02:14] <vstehle>
oh. my mistake then :)
- [08:02:21] <djszapi>
haltdef: vga
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- [08:05:37] <haltdef>
old school
- [08:05:53] <djszapi>
who cares, if works xD
- [08:06:06] <haltdef>
it just doesn't for my monitor
- [08:06:15] <haltdef>
native resolution is higher than VGA's max supported
- [08:06:20] <djszapi>
I thought I said /I/ have vga.
- [08:06:48] <haltdef>
just making conversation, calm down
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- [08:08:10] <XorA>
djszapi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
- [08:08:40] <haltdef>
iirc 12.04 won't behave as well as 11.10 because the omap drivers aren't complete for it yet
- [08:08:42] <XorA>
ubuntu guys wont deal with you unless you use official info from Ubuntu wiki
- [08:08:44] <haltdef>
that may have changed
- [08:10:55] <djszapi>
XorA: will read, thanks.
- [08:11:37] <XorA>
that statement sounds harsher than I meant, they are afterall nice guys with good taste in beer
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- [08:12:27] <faLUCE>
hi all. does pandaboard support usb 3.0 ?
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- [08:14:56] <LetoThe2nd>
faLUCE: no.
- [08:15:21] <faLUCE>
LetoThe2nd: are there plans for that?
- [08:15:45] <LetoThe2nd>
faLUCE: not for the pandaboard as you know it, and even then not yet official.
- [08:15:48] <av500>
LetoThe2nd: there are usb sticks that are in fact microsd cards
- [08:15:55] <av500>
see g+ post
- [08:17:44] <LetoThe2nd>
av500: even then the panda won't boot from it without a sd-microsd adapter
- [08:18:23] <av500>
solder a few wires
- [08:19:03] <LetoThe2nd>
-> hardware modification. just like i said :)
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- [08:20:01] <LetoThe2nd>
though of course given the assumption that microsd cards now count as usb sticks, you can relatively easy make the panda boot off such an "usb stick", i'll grant that :)
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guys, is there any opensource opengl es 2.0 benchmark?
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there's always quake
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- [11:15:07] <djszapi>
XorA: do you recommend the "Oneiric Ocelot (11.10) - Desktop image" ?
- [11:16:30] <XorA>
djszapi: last time I ran ubuntu on my panda was 10.10, I dont use my panda as a mini desktop more as a debugging device so I tend to use Angstrom!
- [11:16:45] <XorA>
and I never even run X11
- [11:17:45] <djszapi>
I would not need X11 either.
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- [11:18:35] <LetoThe2nd>
djszapi: if you are on an ES you are limited to 11.10 and later anyway. pick ther server version, then you have a smaller, cleaner install which offers a serial console.
- [11:18:36] <XorA>
server image then
- [11:19:29] * XorA has yet to persuade ogra_ that the XorA-image is a good plan :-D
- [11:21:54] <djszapi>
LetoThe2nd: I am not.
- [11:23:17] <ogra_>
XorA, an angstrom build distributed by ubuntu ? or what would that be ?
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- [11:23:24] <ogra_>
:)
- [11:23:46] <XorA>
ogra_: it magically does what XorA needs to do, without me needing to think :-D
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- [11:23:54] <ogra_>
haha
- [11:23:58] <LetoThe2nd>
an ubuntu image running angrom in an qemu instance on startup.
- [11:24:03] <ogra_>
LOL
- [11:24:24] <XorA>
actually for a long time I used angstrom to boot ubuntu :-D
- [11:24:40] <XorA>
well ubuntu-ish as it was not a offical image
- [11:25:13] <ogra_>
well, i think the server image is quite flexible nowadays
- [11:25:29] <LetoThe2nd>
<3 debootstrap
- [11:25:41] <ogra_>
if you want more flexible, take a netinstall image ;)
- [11:26:26] <ogra_>
its the average debian-installer image that even has partitioning tools and enables you to install to a usb target
- [11:26:43] <LetoThe2nd>
ogra_: is there one for the panda?
- [11:26:44] <ogra_>
(unlike the preinstalled stuff)
- [11:26:47] <ogra_>
sure
- [11:26:56] <LetoThe2nd>
interesting.
- [11:27:16] <ogra_>
http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/current/images/
- [11:27:28] <LetoThe2nd>
:-)
- [11:27:37] <ogra_>
http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/current/images/omap4/netboot/ actually
- [11:28:18] <LetoThe2nd>
nice, gonna check that on occasion
- [11:28:32] <ogra_>
boot.img-serial.gz should be what you want ... though note that this *needs* a working network connection
- [11:28:49] <XorA>
my most commonly used rootfs has busybox + i2c-tools and thats all I need for 95% of my work
- [11:28:51] <ogra_>
since everything comes from the net apart from the initial boot
- [11:29:24] <ogra_>
XorA, you could just boot with break=top on the cmdline and would exactly get that on ubuntu ;)
- [11:29:26] <LetoThe2nd>
ogra_: guessed that much :)
- [11:29:47] <ogra_>
(since that makes you end up in initrd in a busybox session)
- [11:30:21] <XorA>
ogra_: with i2c-tools?
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- [11:30:43] <ogra_>
no idea, you can easily add an initramfs-tools hook to install it though
- [11:31:07] <XorA>
ogra_: anyway reason I do this is you can tag it onto kernel as initramfs and inject it into Android boards without messing with system.img
- [11:31:20] <ogra_>
yeah
- [11:31:27] <XorA>
then I can get my work done in peace without Android messing stuff up
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av500: is that a new will it blend suggestion?
- [11:51:47] <LetoThe2nd>
XogrAbuntu, the new rising star in the embedded linux universe.
- [11:51:57] <ogra_>
lol
- [11:56:07] <djszapi>
XorA: angstrom does not play here since I need a ready-made qtcore package.
- [11:58:52] <av500>
maybe digia has "ready-made" stuff
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av500: digia is involved with development, not packaging.
- [12:00:15] <av500>
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libqtcoree4
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you mean this: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libqtcoree4
- [12:00:52] <djszapi>
meh
- [12:00:58] <djszapi>
why is this "ee" ?
- [12:01:09] <djszapi>
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libqtcore4
- [12:01:34] <djszapi>
then Angstrom is probably a better choice to me.
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the one with the e will be the embedded one with no X11 I think
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qt/e - heh, those were the days... need to boot my PMA430 for some retro-playtime
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- [12:28:33] <CumQuaT>
hi all
- [12:29:47] <CumQuaT>
been looking at the how-to's on pandaboard.org as to putting Android onto Pandaboard, but they all seem to be based on building the SD card on a Linux system. can anyone point me in the right direction for a howto on doing it under Windows? I'd like to learn.
- [12:30:11] <djszapi>
XorA: it is not a problem to me having the non-embedded one. Actually, that is probably more solid, so good to go for that.
- [12:30:18] <haltdef>
a linaro image and win32diskimager is probably the way to go
- [12:30:34] <CumQuaT>
win32diskimager. cool. ill look it up
- [12:30:38] <CumQuaT>
thanks very much :)
- [12:30:48] <XorA>
or Virtualbox + Ubuntu
- [12:30:55] <XorA>
I do a lot of development that way
- [12:31:01] <CumQuaT>
hmmm... cool
- [12:31:10] <CumQuaT>
ill have a browse and see what breaks ;)
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- [12:58:35] <djszapi>
hmm, the ubuntu installation seems way simpler.
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- [13:03:58] <Defiant>
"too many release variants of Linaro Android for Pandaboard"
- [13:04:00] <Defiant>
right
- [13:05:23] <av500>
I think it's totally clear: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ub5ib14RkTQ/T4dObt0clnI/AAAAAAAAKVs/gCI6jbwOZxE/s816/Release+Highlights+v2.png
- [13:05:43] <av500>
and simple
- [13:05:55] <av500>
no?
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- [13:07:02] <XorA>
looks simple to me
- [13:07:13] <Defiant>
I still do not get it. How far is hw supported for 3.2 as oppsed to 3.2
- [13:07:18] <Defiant>
tracking, landing, whatever?
- [13:07:32] <av500>
Defiant: I dont know
- [13:07:48] <Defiant>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+bug/980774 where my quote was from
- [13:08:42] <av500>
Defiant: landing vs handling is as easy as this: http://www.supercub.co.nz/html/humour.html
- [13:09:06] <Defiant>
right
- [13:10:00] <XorA>
hehe
- [13:10:31] <djszapi>
hmm, it is really hackish to put amstrong on top of the board.
- [13:10:36] <djszapi>
sd card*
- [13:11:38] <av500>
put it underneath then
- [13:12:09] * djszapi will go for ubuntu really, less headache.
- [13:12:41] <Defiant>
djszapi: But you could update the docu on your way..
- [13:13:09] <djszapi>
sorry ?
- [13:13:33] <Defiant>
the documentation for the TI stuff
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- [13:13:58] <djszapi>
I am really not getting you. Could you please clarify ?
- [13:15:13] <djszapi>
http://releases.linaro.org/12.03/ubuntu/leb-panda/ -> Ubuntu is like 4 lines including dmesh.
- [13:15:17] <djszapi>
dmesg*
- [13:17:09] <Defiant>
djszapi: When you put a non-linaro Distribution on the panda you have to go through lots of partial outdated Documentation to get support for e.g. hw video decoding
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- [13:17:47] <wbs>
with ubuntu, it's just adding the ti-omap4 ppa and installing ubuntu-omap4-extras
- [13:17:57] <wbs>
as far as I saw, it's documented correctly everywhere
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- [13:22:44] <av500>
"Which of these is actually supported? Which will Linaro respond to bugs reports?" nice one :)
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- [13:23:16] <Defiant>
wbs: I'm currently trying to build the m3 firmware unless I just have the wrong documentation it is outdated
- [13:23:46] <wbs>
Defiant: ah, never did that, just installed the ubuntu-omap4-extras binary packages, and everything seems to work fine
- [13:25:15] <Defiant>
one do not need much documentation for this ;)
- [13:25:50] <ogra_>
none at all in 12.04 :)
- [13:26:14] <ogra_>
(since there the binary drivers are in the archive and auto-installed after first login)
- [13:26:29] <av500>
unpossible!
- [13:26:58] <wbs>
wow :-)
- [13:30:45] <djszapi>
Defiant: I do not have time for that, sorry.
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- [13:59:31] <ndec>
it's only graphics in the archive... no MM ;-)
- [13:59:55] <ogra_>
indeed
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- [14:19:43] <djszapi>
ok, I now see characters in minicom after connecting with my laptop to the pandaboard. Unfortunately, it is unreadable, so I guess it is because of the baudrate ? What baudrate shall I set up ?
- [14:20:05] <av500>
115200
- [14:20:30] <ogra_>
and dont forget your glasses
- [14:20:47] <djszapi>
av500: thanks, that works.
- [14:20:52] <djszapi>
ogra_: ??
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- [14:21:25] <ogra_>
helps some people with unreadable chars :)
- [14:21:39] <djszapi>
lol
- [14:21:53] <djszapi>
btw, this ubuntu desktop image has libqtcore4 by default. Sounds good.
- [14:22:07] <av500>
go for it
- [14:22:10] <ogra_>
sure, the ubuntu 2d desktop is all Qt
- [14:22:34] <djszapi>
av500: I went :)
- [14:22:49] <XorA>
up up and awaaaay
- [14:23:19] <djszapi>
what is the recommended way of transfering files between my laptop and the pandaboard ?
- [14:23:31] <XorA>
scp
- [14:23:34] <ogra_>
++
- [14:23:38] <XorA>
mount -t nfs
- [14:23:44] <XorA>
mount -t cifs
- [14:23:49] <ogra_>
nah, scp is easier
- [14:23:55] <mru>
rsync
- [14:24:02] <ogra_>
rsync over ssh !
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- [14:24:17] <ogra_>
(which is essentially incemental scp)
- [14:24:35] <djszapi>
sorry, what ssh ?
- [14:24:38] <djszapi>
over usb ?
- [14:24:42] <mru>
rsync is much faster than scp
- [14:24:45] <ogra_>
no, network
- [14:24:56] <ogra_>
ssh is a remote shell
- [14:24:58] <XorA>
I think most of us has network cables plugged into big fat network port :-D
- [14:25:12] <djszapi>
well
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telnet
- [14:25:32] <djszapi>
is there a simpler way than connecting with pandaboard to the company network ?
- [14:25:46] <av500>
morse with led and button?
- [14:25:47] <ogra_>
ask you network admin
- [14:26:20] <djszapi>
perhaps I should use usb pendrive for tranferring data
- [14:26:31] <XorA>
djszapi: two network cards in your PC + local switch
- [14:26:44] <mru>
XorA: 11-port? does such a thing even exist?
- [14:26:47] <XorA>
djszapi: and permission of your IT team so you dont get sacked for hacking
- [14:26:49] <djszapi>
XorA: sorry, just one network port in my laptop.
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mru: 12port, one broken
- [14:27:07] <XorA>
mru: some elcheapo chinses thing, not even convinced its a switch :-D
- [14:27:17] <av500>
its just s bunch of wires inside
- [14:27:28] <mru>
my 16-port has only 2 left free
- [14:27:35] <XorA>
I keep meaning to upgrade to something proper
- [14:27:40] <mru>
and that's with a few things on an 8-port switch
- [14:27:40] <XorA>
but never get round to it
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- [14:27:54] <djszapi>
transferring*
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- [14:28:04] <XorA>
ah, good old sneaker net
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- [14:28:10] <mru>
I was motivated into upgrading my switches when the cheapo one decided to lock up while I was in the US
- [14:28:11] <ogra_>
but then i have like 10 switches around the house
- [14:28:32] <XorA>
I only have 3 "switches" in my house :-(
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one near ADSL, one near computes and one near TV
- [14:28:59] <ogra_>
all non-dev/non-server machines do wlan here
- [14:29:15] <XorA>
Ive got Powerline ethernet
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only my androids normally on WLAN
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- [15:06:07] <Haikarainen>
I tried to install the gpu drivers for my ES, at the same time updating to kernel 3, then X refused to start saying there is no devices
- [15:06:11] <Haikarainen>
help plx
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- [15:09:23] <XorA>
does that mean you have GPU drivers for older kernel but newer kernel now, probably fixed just by apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
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XorA: hm, let me try that, failed miserably yesterday, probably overtired or something
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- [15:15:37] <schaik>
Hmm, I am unable to get any output from my RS232 (after booting my PandaBoard ES, only LED #2 is being lit).
- [15:15:57] <prpplague>
schaik: do you have a sd card inserted?
- [15:16:23] <av500>
a non-empty one
- [15:16:25] <schaik>
I do, unless I haven't inserted it properly.
- [15:16:44] <schaik>
I have been having this issue with like three SDs, I can't seem to get it to do anything.
- [15:17:03] <schaik>
Tried both Ubuntu and Android images, since the validation image isn't available for download to me.
- [15:18:20] <prpplague>
schaik: why is the validation image not available to download?
- [15:18:49] <schaik>
No clue, the link doesn't seem to work for me.
- [15:18:56] <schaik>
At least, last time I tried (which was yesterday night).
- [15:19:07] <prpplague>
schaik: which link?
- [15:20:04] <prpplague>
schaik: i just tested and it downloads fine
- [15:20:05] <schaik>
prpplague: https://gforge.ti.com/gf/download/frsrelease/643/5076/validation-19102011.img (but nevermind, it seems to work now).
- [15:20:24] <prpplague>
schaik: try using that with the documented instructions
- [15:20:24] <schaik>
Let's see if I can get to boot that image.
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- [15:27:58] <schaik>
Still the same situation: SD with image (validation image, this time) inserted, LED #2 being lit, no response at all.
- [15:28:20] <av500>
and you can read that sd card on your pc?
- [15:28:24] <av500>
mount it, etc
- [15:28:33] <schaik>
Yes, I have tried it with five different SD cards so far.
- [15:28:49] <schaik>
They all work when I am using them on my laptop.
- [15:29:00] <av500>
and you copy the image how?
- [15:29:39] <schaik>
"sh -c 'cat ./validation-19102011.img | dd bs=4M of=/dev/mmcblk0; sync'" (in case of the validation image)
- [15:30:14] <ogra_>
why the dd ?
- [15:30:18] <prpplague>
schaik: where did you get that command line?
- [15:30:31] <schaik>
http://pandaboard.org/node/13531/
- [15:30:31] <prpplague>
ogra_: the image isn't compressed so you can use dd
- [15:30:36] <ogra_>
you should just be able to cat it to mmcblk0
- [15:30:45] <schaik>
It doesn't really matter.
- [15:30:47] <schaik>
dd works fine.
- [15:31:02] <ogra_>
right, its just not needed :)
- [15:31:03] <schaik>
I've used it before to write boot loaders to other similar devices.
- [15:31:07] <ogra_>
wont do any harm
- [15:31:20] <Haikarainen>
theres a metapackage for the ES GPU drivers for ubuntu right?
- [15:31:25] <prpplague>
schaik: i'll have to make a note for them to update the wiki
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schaik: and when you have the sd card inserted into your host machine it shows up as mmcblk0 ?
- [15:32:06] <schaik>
It does.
- [15:32:22] <prpplague>
schaik: interesting
- [15:32:35] <prpplague>
schaik: do you have anything plugged into the OTG port?
- [15:32:59] <schaik>
In this case, also mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p2 show up (as they have been written to the SD-card).
- [15:33:02] <schaik>
prpplague: OTG port?
- [15:33:14] <ogra_>
miniUSB
- [15:33:24] <schaik>
Not at all.
- [15:33:57] <prpplague>
schaik: and how are you powering the panda?
- [15:34:31] <schaik>
prpplague: 4A 5V adapter (Model: SYS1449-2005-W2E).
- [15:34:47] <prpplague>
schaik: interesting
- [15:35:14] <prpplague>
schaik: well there are basically two possibilities, either the sd card slot is broken or you are doing something wrong on the sd card image duplication
- [15:35:23] <prpplague>
schaik: try booting via the usb otg for testing
- [15:35:33] <prpplague>
schaik: i assume you have a serial console setup
- [15:36:18] <schaik>
I do have a serial cable hooked up, and I do have minicom running.
- [15:36:46] <prpplague>
schaik: then i still suspect you are doing something incorrect on the sd card creating
- [15:36:57] <av500>
make sure serial works
- [15:37:06] <prpplague>
schaik: which distro are you running and are you running it in a VM?
- [15:37:08] <av500>
short pins 2+3 and check echo
- [15:37:22] <schaik>
I am running Linux Gentoo, natively.
- [15:37:44] <prpplague>
schaik: ok, lets try the sd card creation again
- [15:37:55] <prpplague>
schaik: or try the usb boot
- [15:38:08] <mru>
you're expected to run ubuntu naively
- [15:38:20] <prpplague>
schaik: http://pandaboard.org/content/usb-downloader-and-usb-second-stage-bootloader-omap4
- [15:38:50] <schaik>
mru: Gentoo should work fine (I've not come here to be convinced to run that kind of nonsense).
- [15:38:57] <schaik>
prpplague: thank you.
- [15:39:16] <mru>
schaik: of course gentoo works fine
- [15:39:22] <Haikarainen>
Hm, this is certainly weird
- [15:39:23] <mru>
you should check your sarcasm detector
- [15:39:39] <av500>
schaik: nobody forces you to run that gentoo nonsense
- [15:39:54] <Haikarainen>
So yesterday I did a apt-get dist-upgrade on the preinstalled ubuntu image for my es, stuff went horrible, but i got a 3.x kernel
- [15:40:08] <Haikarainen>
now when i did apt-get install ubuntu-omap4-extras, it installed another 3.x image :S
- [15:40:49] <ogra_>
smells a bit like you messed up the releases, is that 11.10 or 12.04 ?
- [15:41:02] <Haikarainen>
11.10
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- [15:41:14] <ogra_>
no, that should be all fine ...
- [15:41:21] <Haikarainen>
thats the preinstalled img i installed to begin with
- [15:41:49] <ogra_>
right, as long as you only used the shipped bits to enable the PPA and the like, you should have all the right bits
- [15:42:00] <Haikarainen>
well its updating and installing loads of omap packages now, lets just hope this works
- [15:42:03] <ogra_>
(i.e. the icon on the desktop to install the -extras)
- [15:42:03] <Haikarainen>
the fact that I also deleted unity and installed xfce4 might have something to do with it :P
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- [15:42:25] <ogra_>
that shouldnt have any influence
- [15:42:27] <Haikarainen>
i actually pressed that, said the package couldnt be found in ubuntu software manager
- [15:43:06] <ogra_>
right, it then asks you to confim the enablement of the PPA in the next page
- [15:43:26] <Haikarainen>
-_- allright, this update seems to replace my old 3.x ubuntu image with a texas instruments omap4 image completely, I have no idea what Im doing right now lol
- [15:43:46] <ogra_>
smells like you use the wrong PPA or some such
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- [15:45:05] <av500>
ogra_: smell much worse to me
- [15:45:08] <av500>
smells
- [15:45:22] <ogra_>
with some interim messup, yes
- [15:47:32] <Haikarainen>
Rebooting, see what happens now
- [15:47:46] <av500>
unicorn rainbows...
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- [15:48:11] <Haikarainen>
Got some "internal kernel error", dumped a stacktrace of what looked like asm, no human friendly error or something from apt telling me the upgrade failed though
- [15:48:14] <Haikarainen>
hmm, we have x
- [15:49:00] <Haikarainen>
aand we have xfce :D NICE
- [15:49:43] <ogra_>
so the problem was no problem then ... good
- [15:50:34] <av500>
well, running unaccelerated xfce should work anyway, no?
- [15:50:47] <ogra_>
sure
- [15:51:44] <ogra_>
if x starts
- [15:52:03] <Haikarainen>
aand es2_info recognizes my gpu :D
- [15:52:17] <Haikarainen>
man, ive made more progress in 1 hour today than in 8 hrs yesterday
- [15:52:49] <XorA>
Haikarainen: always the way
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- [16:18:58] <BenHowes>
Hey, I'm looking for a few pointers as to where to go next with my stereo camera rig design
- [16:19:35] <ogra_>
outdoors !
- [16:19:37] <BenHowes>
I have all the hardware and I've made a diagram and a few bits to explain what on earth I think I'm doing: https://gist.github.com/2377570
- [16:20:35] <BenHowes>
So I've found driver components for nearly everything and have spent a lot of time reading documentation and learning about v4l2
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- [16:21:04] <BenHowes>
but I really don't know where to go with attaching all these driver blocks together?
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- [16:24:51] <BenHowes>
Got the hardware all done too: http://imgur.com/a/3L5l8
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- [16:27:42] <av500>
now write a v4l2 driver that uses gpmc as the interface
- [16:28:09] <prpplague>
s/gpmc/gpio
- [16:36:28] <sjhill>
prpplague: ummm, so are you okay? Texas has drifts of golf ball hailstones?
- [16:37:46] <prpplague>
sjhill: yea, that was pretty far north of where i am at
- [16:38:12] <sjhill>
alright
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anyone tinker around with the pixel-qi display?
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- [18:04:02] <ronk>
What JTAG probes are available for use with the Pandaboard? Do they work under Ubuntu 10? Can Android Gingerbread be debugged at the kernel/driver level using this JTAG probe?
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- [18:04:41] <mru>
how much are you willing to pay?
- [18:05:03] <mru>
flyswatter2+openocd is the usual cheap option
- [18:05:45] <mru>
the TI probes with CCS should work too
- [18:05:50] <mru>
those cost a bit more
- [18:06:01] <mru>
then there are the third-party ones
- [18:06:06] <mru>
like lauterbach
- [18:06:10] <mru>
it costs a lot
- [18:06:28] <mru>
but is probably the most capable
- [18:06:45] <ronk>
As little as possible - how much are the TI probes and the Flyswatter2 ??
- [18:08:22] <mru>
http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16153
- [18:08:25] <mru>
^^ flyswatter2
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- [18:10:36] <ronk>
$89 for the flyswatter2 is certainly within my price range! Does anyone know if this can be used to debug at the Android kernel/driver level? Is this done under Eclipse?
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- [18:20:43] <jayabharath>
ronk, see http://elinux.org/Flyswatter2 - should be able to debug kernel mode stuff? a pandaboard how-to is not yet there.. but should be similar to beagle one
- [18:20:49] <ronk>
Any comment on flyswatter2 JTAG debug of kernel/driver level stuff on Android Gingerbread ?
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- [18:41:58] <_av500_>
kernel driver is debugged with printk mostly
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- [18:42:12] <_av500_>
and gingerbread is obsolete
- [18:42:20] <_av500_>
and android runs on a linux kernel
- [18:42:34] <_av500_>
so wrt kernel, android is irrelevant
- [18:43:09] <_av500_>
and you dont need eclipse to debug the kernel
- [18:44:30] <ds2>
with some of these kernel bugs, you do sometimes feel like you need a lunar eclipse to get it debugged ;)
- [18:45:26] <_av500_>
these happen often enough
- [18:45:34] <_av500_>
just time your bugs accordingly
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- [18:47:17] <_av500_>
also why do people worry most about jtag and kernel drivers when they have never written one?
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- [18:48:01] * dm8tbr has debugged a hdd driver once... it was 'funky' ;)
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- [18:49:27] <dm8tbr>
that particular driver had a undocumented 'feature'. it tried to reimplement being atomic and thus didn't support concurrent read and write requests...
- [18:50:34] <ds2>
but aren't hdd's WORN devices?
- [18:50:41] <ds2>
Write Once Read Never
- [18:52:38] <mru>
that's floppies
- [18:52:43] <_av500_>
dm8tbr: you keep mentioning that driver, it must have been traumatic....
- [18:54:48] <dm8tbr>
_av500_: nah, just happens to be a nice example. I still feel sorry for Matze ;)
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hi. I'm using ubuntu 11.04 on pandaboard. I have compiled kernel 2.6.38.8 with xenomai patch and now i am not able to make wifi works.
- [19:35:51] <robert-km>
modprobe wl12xx and modprobe wl12xx_sdio doesn' t work
- [19:36:07] <robert-km>
ifconfig -a still shows only lo0 and usb0
- [19:36:45] <robert-km>
Do I need another wifi drivers?
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- [19:40:39] <Defiant>
robert-km: Whatever this patch is, is that kernel.org vanilla kernel?
- [19:40:59] <Defiant>
And why such an old kernel?
- [19:41:29] <mru>
whatever kernel ubuntu 11.10 comes with should work fine
- [19:41:31] <robert-km>
kernel.org
- [19:41:48] <Defiant>
robert-km: is that case it might be missing some wlan patches
- [19:42:09] <Defiant>
robert-km: Check http://elinux.org/Panda_How_to_kernel_2_6_38
- [19:42:10] <robert-km>
which patch should I apply while building binaries?
- [19:43:38] <robert-km>
for xenomai I need excatly 2.6.38.8
- [19:44:11] <robert-km>
it is RT patch for linux
- [19:44:20] <Defiant>
ooh k
- [19:44:56] <Defiant>
uhm...wlan might not work in vanilla 2.6.38 at all
- [19:45:29] <Defiant>
robert-km: ok here is another idea: Try the Linaro or ubuntu-panda sources for .38
- [19:46:19] <robert-km>
I'm not sure how is it compatible with adeos patch for this. I will check this.
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- [20:40:48] <Haikarainen>
Is the pandaboard really supposed to be so slow?
- [20:40:50] <Haikarainen>
ES
- [20:41:33] <taruti>
Haikarainen: are you using an usb-disk?
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- [20:42:23] <Haikarainen>
taruti: no, sdcard, this is a bottleneck I know, would a usbdisk be faster?
- [20:42:32] <taruti>
yes, much faster
- [20:43:09] <Haikarainen>
Sure, fileoperations feels like winxp on a 286, but starting processes, movign around windows is also really slow/stutterly
- [20:43:40] <taruti>
probably they hit the disk when you least expect it
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- [20:44:08] <a_agross>
yeah usb disk makes things really nice
- [20:44:12] <Haikarainen>
Allright, I've been thinking about trying to get native SATA to work somehow, but I couldn't even find a SATA-port to begin with, and then I'd have to solder it somewhere, where I have no idea
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- [20:46:22] <Haikarainen>
Should probably buy one then. What If I want to use this usbdisk and at the same time use a mouse and kb? thing only have 2 ports :/
- [20:46:30] <Haikarainen>
usbhub maybe?
- [20:46:54] <Haikarainen>
Then I'd have to check if my 3 amps would be enough. .hmm
- [20:47:06] <tomstokes>
Haikarainen: there are no exposed SATA pins. i'm not even sure if the OMAP4460 has a SATA controller. even if it did, you couldn't just solder a connector on, as it would have to be a controlled impedance. the board would have to be designed around it.
- [20:47:39] <Haikarainen>
should buy a 10 amps power supply or something instead :P then it would certainly not be ap rob
- [20:48:37] <Haikarainen>
tomstokes: yes yes, my thoughts have been around looking for potential in the expansion headers to connect a sata controller to it, and read up on how to write drivers for it etc..
- [20:48:54] <Haikarainen>
Im new to this, lots of fog-of-war for me to explore. Wish I could use blacksheepwall here
- [20:49:57] <Haikarainen>
someone should write a throughout beginners guide on how everything on it actually works.
- [20:50:40] <tomstokes>
Haikarainen: there is nothing in the expansion headers that you could (reasonably) connect a SATA controller to. USB-to-SATA is the only reasonable option
- [20:51:12] <tomstokes>
the learning curve is steep, but it's the only way to learn. the less hand-holding, the better you will understand in the long term
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- [20:53:02] <Haikarainen>
allright, USB it is! :) Im not much of a fan of handholding neither, im just really enthusiastic to learn everything as fast as possible atm :P I know alot of the "neighbourhood" so to speak allready
- [20:53:24] <tomstokes>
awesome! best of luck
- [20:53:29] <tomstokes>
it's fun and well worth it
- [20:53:39] <mru>
tomstokes: what, no sata over hdmi?
- [20:53:50] <tomstokes>
brilliant!
- [20:53:58] <Haikarainen>
oO
- [20:54:23] <mru>
for writes, reads have to go over csi
- [20:54:38] <Haikarainen>
That was a joke right?
- [20:54:48] <mru>
it probably could be done with some ungodly interface chip
- [20:54:49] <_av500_>
mru rarely jokes
- [20:54:57] <tomstokes>
i mean, in theory you could develop an interface chip to do it
- [20:55:04] <mru>
I'd dread writing the driver though
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- [20:55:09] <tomstokes>
and there is certainly a lot of one-way bandwidth there
- [20:55:23] <_av500_>
both way if you use CSI too
- [20:55:28] <mru>
exactly
- [20:55:38] <Haikarainen>
I guess, they seem to cram just about everything in the HDMI cables nowadays. Audio, Video, Network etc
- [20:55:50] <_av500_>
no network on the omap4
- [20:55:55] <_av500_>
but yes, audio and video
- [20:57:08] <Haikarainen>
Huh. DVI-D for writes, HDMI for reads -> SATA -> ??? -> Profit ?
- [20:57:29] <_av500_>
no, CSI for reads
- [20:58:06] <mru>
a control channel on gpmc would probably simplify things
- [20:58:23] <_av500_>
yes, lets use all pins
- [20:58:26] <_av500_>
or balls
- [20:58:35] <Haikarainen>
I dont think the x=enchance^zoom;x=x^y algorithm is realistic enough for the job but
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- [21:00:53] <Haikarainen>
mmm.. balls..
- [21:02:19] <Haikarainen>
usb-programming here I come
- [21:02:31] <tomstokes>
remember: if it's not painful, you're not trying hard enough
- [21:04:52] <Haikarainen>
I know i know, using my own pinkie as a fuse atm. Lets just hope the electrical sockets in my house isnt feelin.. spikey.
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