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IRC Log for 2012-03-20
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- [01:09:54] <GPSFan>
prpplague, ping, that looked like a nasty storm that went through your area earlier today, it dropped 3" of snow on us last night. hope your fence is ok...
- [01:11:02] <prpplague>
yea it was pretty bad
- [01:11:08] <prpplague>
GPSFan: fence is busted bad
- [01:11:16] <GPSFan>
;>((
- [01:11:16] <prpplague>
snapped all the poles off at the ground level
- [01:11:22] <GPSFan>
yikes
- [01:11:45] <GPSFan>
it's still snowing here.
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- [01:14:08] <wmat>
prpplague: who?
- [01:15:05] <prpplague>
wmat: ??
- [01:15:26] <wmat>
prpplague: who added you on G+ from Waterloo?
- [01:15:44] <prpplague>
wmat: oh
- [01:15:46] <prpplague>
let me look
- [01:16:08] <prpplague>
wmat: names Keith Clark
- [01:16:44] <wmat>
prpplague: don't know him
- [01:17:14] <prpplague>
wmat: hehe, didn't figure you did, hehe
- [01:17:24] <prpplague>
wmat: unless waterloo is smaller than i think it is
- [01:17:50] <wmat>
prpplague: waterloo proper is only 120K I think
- [01:18:06] <wmat>
prpplague: there is several waterloos though
- [01:18:55] <wmat>
good lord, this block notification bar at the bottom of the screen in Linux Mint is annoying
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- [02:52:22] <wmat>
heh
- [02:53:12] <wmat>
it's the only nice piece of hardware I own
- [02:53:21] <wmat>
my laptops and desktops are all ancient
- [03:02:27] <prpplague>
wmat: hehe
- [03:03:10] <prpplague>
wmat: i'm gonna tell your wife you said that!
- [03:04:30] <wmat>
I keep telling her to use take over my macbook, as I never use it
- [03:04:49] <wmat>
i'd rather use my T60p running Linux
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- [03:06:06] <wmat>
I thought I heard a whoosh above my head
- [03:06:10] <prpplague>
wmat: hehe
- [03:06:26] <prpplague>
wmat: you still considering taking the boss lady to barcelona?
- [03:06:43] <wmat>
prpplague: that all depends on forthcoming work :/
- [03:06:48] <prpplague>
wmat: indeed
- [03:06:50] <wmat>
but otherwise, yes
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- [03:07:24] <wmat>
that will be an issue for us as well
- [03:07:51] <prpplague>
wmat: *cough* i may have to get my mother-in-law to visit......
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prpplague: you still up?
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- [08:37:26] <LetoThe2nd>
m??in
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- [08:38:20] <siam_>
hello everyone
- [08:45:19] <siam_>
anyone knows hot to enable bT on linaro 12.02?
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- [09:20:22] * Topic is 'OMAP discussion & development on PandaBoard Platform | Site: http://www.PandaBoard.org | Paste @ http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/ |Wiki: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard | IRC logs: http://www.pandaboard.org/pbirclogs/ | IRC Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ircsurvivalguide'
- [09:20:22] * Set by orbarron!~orb@nat/ti/x-ztoqabxrceydslsj on Mon Jun 06 15:00:29 UTC 2011
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- [10:46:00] <Sage_>
hi, what is the status of wifi on pandaboard? I'm trying to get it working but getting rf-kill errors http://pastie.org/3633119 and dmesg grep of wl http://pastie.org/3633133
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Hello
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- [11:26:06] <siam>
hello everyone...
- [11:26:21] <siam>
how could i modiofy boot files?
- [11:28:03] <LetoThe2nd>
read-modify-write
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- [11:30:16] <mru>
or in case of flaky storage, write-modify-read
- [11:31:25] <LetoThe2nd>
in case of troubles deciding what to do: read-modify-modify-modify-modify-write.
- [11:35:38] <mru>
or in case of paranoia, read-modify-write-write-write
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- [15:29:08] <Tecuhtli>
Android build for panda is broken: http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/47596182
- [15:29:38] <Tecuhtli>
all I did was: source build/envsetup.sh
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lunch full_panda-userdebug
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make -j6
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what build?
- [15:30:42] <Tecuhtli>
I don't understand your question. I pulled the latest source available from google's repo
- [15:30:50] <av500>
so AOSP
- [15:30:55] <Tecuhtli>
yup
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quick fix: dont build qemu
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- [15:33:59] <av500>
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/browse_thread/thread/7d5b3c3b2076c35f
- [15:34:05] <av500>
you are not alone
- [15:34:13] <av500>
but its hardly a panda specific problem
- [15:36:11] <Tecuhtli>
thanks for the info av500
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this prebuilts/tools is something new, its not in my ICS
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- [15:55:43] <brax>
guys, what to do to avoid kernel section mismatches ? http://pastebin.com/09BXPfbA
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- [15:57:48] <av500>
Tecuhtli: but as I said, try to disable qemu building
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av500: yup, I tried reverting the patch on external/qemu as described in the link you sent but did not work for me
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av500: to disable qemu build, removing its Android.mk may suffice, right?
- [16:01:09] <av500>
i guess so
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or comment some stuff inside
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or the Android.mk above
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what exactly is omapdrm_pvr
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direct rendering?
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i.e. GLES acceleration?
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- [17:51:06] <genikims>
Hello?
- [17:51:32] <brax>
hello
- [17:51:36] <genikims>
Can anyone let me know what pre-installed linux image can be downloaded from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/?
- [17:52:13] <genikims>
OMAP3 or OMAP4?
- [17:52:41] <genikims>
hello?
- [17:53:00] <brax>
read down at the page, from "Preinstalled desktop image"
- [17:53:09] <brax>
there are omap3 and omap4 images each
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there are two images for Texas Instruments.
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which one do you recommend download?
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- [17:55:06] <brax>
what board do you have
- [17:56:39] <av500>
if you have an omap3 board, use omap4 image. if you have an omap4 board, use omap3 image
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- [17:57:39] <genikims>
my panda board is panda board ES
- [17:57:58] <av500>
and omap4
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- [18:00:49] <genikims>
hello?
- [18:02:25] <av500>
world?
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- [18:07:54] <LetoThe2nd>
*crunch*
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hm, do TI only officially support gpu acceleration of X and video playback under ubuntu?
- [18:10:58] <aquadran>
android too
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- [18:11:29] <haltdef>
where should I be downloading these OSes? how does linaro fit into it all?
- [18:12:24] <aquadran>
from linaro or ubuntu site
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haltdef: you can think of Linaro as an integrator of kernel, toolchain, ubuntu and android
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specifically for the ARM architecture
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linaro tries to make stuff better
- [18:13:15] <sjhill>
operative word "tries"
- [18:14:17] <Defiant>
Does Linaro Android also uses the syslink api for accel?
- [18:14:17] <av500>
linaro does ubuntuning
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Defiant: they do not have their own android
- [18:14:31] <haltdef>
managed to build a working debian rootfs with linaro's kernel, only now trying to add X
- [18:14:58] <haltdef>
discovered ti's omap-dev launchpad page, does linaro just use code from that?
- [18:15:00] <av500>
linaro android = AOSP android with racing stripes
- [18:15:13] <Defiant>
ok
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- [18:15:57] <haltdef>
linaro's ubuntu wouldn't let me install omap4-extras, vanilla ubuntu would, both were unusably slow :P
- [18:16:03] <haltdef>
swapping like mental
- [18:16:09] <Defiant>
disable swap
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haltdef: trash the panda and wait for the r-pi
- [18:17:04] <haltdef>
I dread to think what the pi would be like if ubuntu noms all of the panda's ram :P
- [18:17:41] <LetoThe2nd>
super cool and blazing fast. ;)
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haltdef: have you not seen the utub videos!
- [18:20:03] <av500>
its a real computer!
- [18:20:11] <av500>
it will teach kids ............................ patience
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I've got one SD card image for Pandaboard that someone has made on Windows. I'm not familiar with Windows tools, but tried to open this on linux by mounting, using ccd2iso and cdemu. Some can get the first partition open, but none can open the rootfs.
- [18:55:22] <zma>
Any idea what application should I use? or if I borrow Windows computer, what application should I install to get rootfs partition visible?
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zma: not sure i understand your statement
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zma: how did they "make the image on windows" ?
- [18:56:51] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: its simple, its not possible.
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prpplague: by some application I don't know of. It's *.img file.
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zma: (if we are talking about accessing the second partition from windows)
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zma: ok so when you say "make the image" do you mean put the image on an sd card?
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LetoThe2nd: So I need to know what application has made the image, and then use exactly same app to open it?
- [18:58:01] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: nope.
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prpplague: It doesn't matter for me if I can access rootfs from my desktop linux or on Pandaboard. I just need to get my hands on with some files there.
- [18:59:01] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: if its a standard image for panda, then its meant to be written directly to the sd card, e.g. it countains a full partition table and all. you can not directly mount into it.
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LetoThe2nd: I tried DD it, didn't work
- [18:59:22] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: easiest way would be writing it to an sd card, and then mounting the partitions there.
- [18:59:40] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: "didn't work" is not a precise error message.
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zma: http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/troubleshooting
- [19:00:27] <zma>
Don't remember the error, but dmesg shows:
- [19:00:28] <zma>
sdb: sdb1 sdb2
- [19:00:28] <zma>
[682390.660204] sdb: p2 size 15554560 extends beyond EOD, truncated
- [19:00:28] <zma>
[682391.681385] EXT4-fs (sdb2): bad geometry: block count 1944320 exceeds size of device (1936384 blocks)
- [19:00:36] <prpplague>
zma: follow the instructions under "validation image"
- [19:01:13] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: stop pastespamming, please. and obviously the image is just bigger than your card.
- [19:01:27] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: -> use bigger card.
- [19:01:35] <prpplague>
or follow the instructions
- [19:01:39] <zma>
LetoThe2nd: That's not possible, I have 8GB card
- [19:01:44] <prpplague>
zma: simply follow the instructions on the page
- [19:02:08] <prpplague>
zma: we have no clue about the "image" that you got, but we do know about the correct one for validation
- [19:02:11] <LetoThe2nd>
zma: "not possible" means then: well, do what ever you want, i'm out.
- [19:02:14] <prpplague>
zma: simply follow the directions
- [19:02:40] <LetoThe2nd>
prpplague: he already has an image, and he wants to access the second partition inside the image. thats the problem.
- [19:03:05] <zma>
prpplague: Thanks for link, I try that Windows tool mentioned there. I'll borrow Windows computer and try it.
- [19:03:06] <prpplague>
LetoThe2nd: yea i think the image he has was someone doing a dd like app on windows
- [19:03:13] <prpplague>
zma: no need to use windows
- [19:03:20] <prpplague>
zma: if you have a linux machine
- [19:03:26] <prpplague>
zma: just use the section for linux
- [19:03:29] <LetoThe2nd>
prpplague: probably.
- [19:04:03] <prpplague>
zma: the windows section is ONLY if you have nothing but windows
- [19:04:16] <prpplague>
zma: just use the linux section
- [19:04:41] <zma>
prpplague: I just think if I write the image file using that windows tool to SD, after that I hope either Panda or Linux machine will open it.
- [19:05:20] <prpplague>
zma: yes, but why use the windows machine if you already have a linux machine?
- [19:05:56] <zma>
prpplague: I already tried DD like in those instructions with Linux machine
- [19:06:05] <LetoThe2nd>
prpplague: www.ljplus.ru/img4/f/a/faargenwelsh/palmface.jpg
- [19:06:26] <prpplague>
zma: then you are doing something wrong
- [19:06:33] <prpplague>
LetoThe2nd: hehe
- [19:07:00] <prpplague>
zma: did you download the validation image?
- [19:07:37] <LetoThe2nd>
prpplague: or, more precisely: http://mafutrct.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/uh654101283166345facepalm.jpg
- [19:07:53] <prpplague>
LetoThe2nd: hehe
- [19:08:07] <prpplague>
zma: did you download the validation image?
- [19:08:19] <zma>
prpplague: This is not validation image, Pandaboard works with other images. This is just a custom image from random guy who used a random Windows tool to make the image with.
- [19:08:55] <LetoThe2nd>
as i said "i have this $FUNNYIMAGE, how to access" - "write to big enough card, access."
- [19:09:17] <zma>
prpplague: if the image has been on other SD card, the disc symmetry may be a bit different, causing this kind of errors. If I use the right program, that hopefully is this Win32DiscImager, I might get it work
- [19:09:45] <prpplague>
zma: ok, so not to sound rude, but how the hell are we suppose to know what some random guy did to make some random image of some build we have no knowledge of?
- [19:10:14] <zma>
prpplague: Sorry I didn't generalize the question with enough pedantic facts well enough.
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- [19:10:46] <prpplague>
LetoThe2nd: my turn www.ljplus.ru/img4/f/a/faargenwelsh/palmface.jpg
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hmm, i suspect my email account is down.... i haven't received a single piece of mail in 20 minutes........
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- [19:39:33] <ben1066>
i wish hobbyists could build their own omap boards
- [19:39:38] <ben1066>
but BGA sucks :S
- [19:42:17] <mru>
bga is the least of your worries
- [19:42:30] <prpplague>
hehe indeed
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prpplague: you around mayng?
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- [21:31:57] <ben1066>
nono, I could design an arm cortex m3/4 board, since they are in lqfp, I know A* is harder, but it can't be impossible :P
- [21:33:25] <andoma>
what's the max pixelclock on the omap4?
- [21:34:13] <gumb4>
rsalveti: are there kernel sources for the 12.02 LEBs?
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- [21:35:49] <rsalveti>
gumb4: yup, you can grab the sources using apt-get source or by checking it at https://github.com/jcrigby/packaged-linux-linaro-3.1-ci
- [21:36:05] <rsalveti>
there's a packaging branch with the same source used to generate the package
- [21:36:36] <rsalveti>
if you just want the sources from the landing team, without packaging and such, check it from http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=landing-teams/working/ti/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-linux-linaro-3.1
- [21:36:38] <gumb4>
rsalveti: I'm asking because I just want to patch some stuff in the leb kernel without building the rootfs and stuff from scratch
- [21:37:43] <gumb4>
rsalveti: is there the kernel .config that was used for the leb, too?
- [21:38:00] <rsalveti>
gumb4: yup, you can find it all at the first link from the github
- [21:38:40] <rsalveti>
there's a branch called packaged-linux-linaro-3.1-ci/lt-omap
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there you can find everything you need
- [21:39:10] <rsalveti>
but remember that at /boot you can already find the config used by your own kernel
- [21:40:20] <rsalveti>
https://github.com/jcrigby/packaged-linux-linaro-3.1-ci/tree/lt-omap
- [21:40:49] <rsalveti>
https://github.com/jcrigby/packaged-linux-linaro-3.1-ci/blob/lt-omap/debian.linaro/config/config.common.ubuntu
- [21:41:13] <ndec_>
rsalveti: why github?
- [21:41:18] * ndec_ is puzzled
- [21:41:45] <rsalveti>
because this is the resulted tree from ci.linaro.org
- [21:42:03] <rsalveti>
we have jobs that gets the tree from the landing team, merges automatically with the packaging tree, and pushes the result to github
- [21:42:20] <rsalveti>
simply because we'd need to share the ssh key, and for security reasons using github was easier and better
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- [21:43:21] <rsalveti>
then there's a recipe at launchpad that imports the branch from github and builds the package
- [21:43:28] <rsalveti>
and then make it available at the linaro kernel PPA :-)
- [21:43:32] <rsalveti>
that will be consumed by our lebs
- [21:43:43] <mkopack>
"I felt like we did everything in our power to build the best race car we could for the Daytona 500 and take it down there without any problems."
- [21:43:52] <mkopack>
sorry, wrong window
- [21:44:15] <gumb4>
rsalveti: I think I found it: https://github.com/jcrigby/packaged-linux-linaro-3.1-ci/tree/linux-linaro-lt-omap-3.1-3.1.1-19.19-lt-ci-20120216183525+1329716076
- [21:44:28] <rsalveti>
gumb4: exactly
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rsalveti: muito obrigado e um grande abracao da alemanha pra vc
- [21:45:24] <rsalveti>
guerby: valeu :-)
- [21:46:49] <ndec_>
rsalveti: ok. thx
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I just got my board in and I'm not able to get any video to come up on it. I have it hooked up to a monitor via hdmi w/ a sd card formatted with the validation environment. I feel like i'm missing something here, any ideas?
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