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IRC Log for 2012-03-14
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- [02:08:48] <prpplague>
GPSFan: ping me when you have time
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- [02:10:42] <netman87>
how fast opencv is on pandaboard?
- [02:11:03] <netman87>
i mean it takes lots of time to detect some faces even on my desktop computer
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prpplague, ping
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- [03:40:58] <ron_frown>
oi oi
- [03:41:02] <ron_frown>
av500
- [03:41:30] <ron_frown>
av500 - any ballpark idea on the eagle? are we looking at 2mo 6mo 8mo? any ballpark?
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- [03:54:47] <keith__>
Hi, is pandaboard production ready? are quantities available for production? and what is really productino ready? so how come they say beagleboard is not production ready? what is it really?
- [03:59:35] <ron_frown>
keith__ I beleive they just mean you shouldnt expect to be able to buy panda/beagle boards ,develope a product and always be able to find a supply of those boards
- [03:59:40] <ron_frown>
especially at those prices
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- [04:16:15] <keith__>
ron: so is pandaboard production ready?
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- [04:31:03] <ka6sox>
keith__, they aren't a "production" board...they are a reference design...
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- [05:13:52] <priyans>
hello. i am new to pandaboard. any guidelines to install opencv and pygtk on it?
- [05:15:12] <priyans>
anyone here?
- [05:18:33] <priyans>
???
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- [05:51:12] <_av500_>
no
- [05:51:29] <_av500_>
we are closed until 8am UGT
- [05:51:42] <Sonicadvance1>
hehe
- [05:51:59] <ron_frown>
nice
- [05:56:51] <ka6sox>
av500, love it
- [05:57:13] <ka6sox>
I wonder how many folks know where UGT is :D
- [05:58:20] <ka6sox>
~ugt
- [05:58:26] <ka6sox>
no bot here...
- [06:01:22] <ron_frown>
av500 so any ballparks?
- [06:01:35] <ron_frown>
I want to prototype some of my ideas
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- [06:06:21] <_av500_>
ah, missed your question
- [06:06:46] <_av500_>
it still depends on TI silicon yields
- [06:07:09] <_av500_>
and now TMSC has issues with 28mm
- [06:08:19] <ds2>
j #beagle
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- [06:13:19] <ron_frown>
np
- [06:13:32] <ron_frown>
I understand how quotes can go anway, nothing official
- [06:13:57] <ron_frown>
seems like all the current dev boards are... getting a bit old... panda es runs ics fantastically
- [06:15:51] <ds2>
they are all just fine. matter of tuning.
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- [06:17:53] <_av500_>
ron_frown: get a raspeberry pi
- [06:18:10] <ron_frown>
wtf
- [06:18:14] <ron_frown>
thts a downgrade man
- [06:18:25] <ron_frown>
700mhz vs dual 1.2ghz?
- [06:19:43] <netman87>
i would order few raspberry pi boards if they just would sell them
- [06:20:10] <netman87>
i dont see anyplace where i can place order and i dont see when there is more coming
- [06:20:30] <netman87>
those would be nice for opencv cluster
- [06:21:07] <ds2>
_av500_: let's spin some OSK5912 boards and call them boysenberry-turnovers
- [06:21:11] <ds2>
;)
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- [06:38:36] <_av500_>
netman87: lol
- [06:39:27] * _av500_ wonders why people dont want to use r-pis for their intended purpose
- [06:42:38] <netman87>
r-pis?
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- [06:49:36] <_av500_>
netman87: raspberrillium pies
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- [08:12:31] <LetoThe2nd>
m??in
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- [09:02:54] <rsv>
i have a question on compiling for ducati core, Does the xdc tool generate the binary to run on ducati
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- [09:05:59] <av500>
in the end yes
- [09:06:06] <av500>
well, the compiler generates the binary
- [09:06:24] <av500>
together with the linker and what have you
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- [09:13:43] <rsv>
i am trying to find how to compile ducati code and equivalent test apps. for some reason i am unable to compile the test apps and get the xem3 out of it
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- [10:02:40] <Guest21834>
Hi, is there anything that needs to be done differently when building Gingerbread for ES B1 and Rev A4?
- [10:05:36] <av500>
yes, building gingerbread for panda should not be done at all any more
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- [10:37:57] <hrw>
av500: which kernel you use as a base for archos? linux-omap 3.0-HEAD + 3.0.8 stable update?
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- [10:41:47] <hrw>
av500: diff to 3.0.8 is 15M :D
- [10:43:24] <ynezz>
yummy
- [10:44:13] <LetoThe2nd>
time to cherry pick then ;)
- [10:44:57] <hrw>
LetoThe2nd: it is impossible to cherrypick from archos tree - it was done as one commit
- [10:45:21] <LetoThe2nd>
hrw: i know, it was not meant that seriously. more like manually cherrypicking lines out of 15M ;)
- [10:45:53] <hrw>
3.0.8-9 incr patch does not even apply ;(
- [10:46:27] <av500>
hrw: TI kernels
- [10:46:43] <hrw>
8 years ago when I started playing with embedded linux we had ugly vendor patches but even they were smaller
- [10:46:46] <hrw>
av500: thx
- [10:46:54] <av500>
so something on omapzoom
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- [10:47:01] <av500>
or even the aosp stuff
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av500: will leave kernel hacking to other people
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hrw: for the record: http://git.omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/p-android-omap-3.0
- [10:51:40] <av500>
that should be the closest
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hrw: its not 15MB patched by us :)
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av500: I know, omap kernels are not mainline ones
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ubuntus is :P
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av500: 4.8MB is much nicer size
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any one install armstrong on pandaboard
- [12:11:06] <av500>
some did
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caN U TELL WHO DID?
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:)
- [12:15:09] <LetoThe2nd>
version neil or louis?
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lance
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av500: pandaborat on dope ;)
- [12:16:12] <viru_>
neil
- [12:17:25] <LetoThe2nd>
viru_: ask michael collins then. he installed neil.
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rebased him onto the moon
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"ported"
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av500: Hey! You know we were talking about cameras and GPMC connection etc the other day?
- [13:14:47] <av500>
I take everything back and claim the opposite!
- [13:15:07] <BenHowes>
I've been looking at it and I can't find any examples of people connecting FIFO's straight to the GPMC
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I'm sure it must be possible?
- [13:15:35] <BenHowes>
I just can't see anything that doesn't have some sort of addressing
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did you find many examples of people connecting anything to gpmc?
- [13:15:56] <BenHowes>
yeah, there are a few docs for connecting a network controller
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and something else
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well, why not ignore the addesses?
- [13:16:51] <BenHowes>
I guess I could do that ;)
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Hello
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can anyone tell me why the soundcard is not working under oneiric?
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can anyone tell me why the soundcard is not working under oneiric?
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hi
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r u there?
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- [16:01:41] <jk_>
hi all
- [16:01:55] <jk_>
i have issues in "memory req for ICS"
- [16:02:05] <jk_>
does any one can help me
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- [16:03:36] <jk_>
hi bth
- [16:04:04] <av500>
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
- [16:05:07] <jk_>
hi
- [16:05:24] <jk_>
what will be minimal memory size for ICS in panda board?
- [16:05:43] <av500>
depends
- [16:06:08] <jk_>
linux 3.0 and android framework and android.
- [16:06:14] <jk_>
APP is not incldued
- [16:06:30] <jayabharath>
jk_: ram requirement?
- [16:06:35] <jk_>
yes
- [16:06:35] <av500>
yes
- [16:06:50] <jk_>
LPDDR ram requirement
- [16:07:11] <av500>
android does not care if the RAM is LP or not :)
- [16:07:22] <jk_>
yes... that is clear
- [16:07:45] <jk_>
but OMAP 4 has go with LPDDR i suppose ..that too PoP
- [16:07:50] <av500>
yes
- [16:08:06] <av500>
the AOSP ICS release assumes you have 1GB
- [16:08:17] <jk_>
oooooooooooo my god really
- [16:08:23] <jk_>
1 GB is 14 USD
- [16:08:30] <av500>
since the GN has 1GB
- [16:08:50] <av500>
and who would make an ICS device less capable than the GN
- [16:08:55] <jayabharath>
jk_: generally you can run fine with 768MB? but 1GB is prefered
- [16:09:03] <av500>
jayabharath: how do you solder 768MB?
- [16:09:08] <jayabharath>
pop
- [16:09:18] <av500>
got a part number?
- [16:09:21] <jk_>
yes..no way we can solder 768 MB
- [16:09:31] <jk_>
in fact no part is available for 768 MB
- [16:09:44] <jk_>
Yes PoP
- [16:09:56] <jk_>
Package on Processor
- [16:10:00] <av500>
yes
- [16:10:03] <av500>
we know that that means
- [16:10:06] <jayabharath>
You are right guys. However, practical usages for most use cases has been well withing 768MB?. however, finding a part that is a different story
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- [16:10:33] * av500 knows that there are ICS devices with 512MB sold
- [16:10:48] <jk_>
why we need so much 760 MB?
- [16:10:59] <jk_>
Samsung nexus says 320 MB as a base
- [16:11:45] <jk_>
is it that camera stuff takes too much of RAM
- [16:11:52] <av500>
that too
- [16:12:16] <av500>
mostly it's "we have 1GB, lets waste a lot of it" :)
- [16:12:30] <jk_>
no bhaya...
- [16:12:34] <jk_>
1 GB too costly
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- [16:13:05] <jk_>
in fact Elpida also gone bankrupt..few days back
- [16:13:14] <jk_>
so mem cost will be very high
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- [16:13:33] <jk_>
if i cut down Camera stuff , do think it will go sub 400 MB
- [16:14:17] <av500>
it's just knowing where to cut....
- [16:14:32] <ynezz>
then LCD...
- [16:14:34] <jk_>
where do i get that list
- [16:14:44] <jk_>
component vs mem requirement
- [16:14:56] <jk_>
LCD must yea
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LCD?
- [16:15:13] <jk_>
LCD required.. how can i cut that one
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- [16:17:40] <jayabharath>
:)
- [16:18:04] <jk_>
how much linux 3.0 requires
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is it 200 MB?
- [16:18:19] <av500>
?
- [16:18:34] <jk_>
linux 3.0 kernal in panda board
- [16:18:41] <av500>
if you dont do aynthing with the kernel, it needs a few MB
- [16:18:53] <jk_>
means what
- [16:19:05] <av500>
means you are asking the wrong questions
- [16:19:18] <jk_>
sorry.. may be correct way
- [16:19:19] <av500>
a kernel per se needs little memory
- [16:19:47] <jk_>
what will be present version panda board linux 3.0 kernel
- [16:20:15] <jk_>
mostly..my worry arround panda board version of ICS
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and its mem requirements
- [16:20:27] <av500>
yes, you said so
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- [16:20:58] <jk_>
really
- [16:21:01] <jk_>
which one
- [16:21:05] <jayabharath>
jk_: Can I suggest you download the latest ICS build from linaro and do some memory profiling?
- [16:21:31] <jk_>
linaro
- [16:21:40] <jayabharath>
linaro.org
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- [16:26:34] <jk_>
if some one has that list
- [16:26:41] <av500>
what list?
- [16:26:50] <jk_>
mem vs components
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- [16:27:06] <av500>
well, since panda has 1GB, the need for such a list here is not really given
- [16:27:38] <jk_>
let me ask otherway
- [16:28:06] <jk_>
is it possible to find mem use soon panda board start'
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hi XorA
- [16:34:15] <jk_>
r u ICS guy
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- [16:35:38] <XorA>
jk_: depends what you mean by ICS guys
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- [16:35:57] <jk_>
r u into ICS development
- [16:36:25] <XorA>
jk_: I do some work on ICS kernel for omap4
- [16:36:26] <av500>
jk_: as said, stock AOSP wont run with 512MB
- [16:36:30] <LetoThe2nd>
SK??L
- [16:36:44] <av500>
jk_: 512MB is doable as there are devices out there with 512
- [16:36:58] <av500>
but, #pandaboard might be the wrong place to get help on that
- [16:37:07] <av500>
most people here run ubuntu and long for 4GB.....
- [16:37:21] <jk_>
XorA... i want to look at memory reqirment for ICS in Panda board?
- [16:37:24] <av500>
and faster swap....
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- [16:38:37] <XorA>
I never see more than console in my work
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- [16:39:47] <jk_>
what u mean XorA
- [16:40:12] <XorA>
Im a kernel developer, I never see anything larger than 80x25 console
- [16:41:32] <av500>
so you need 2000 bytes
- [16:42:07] <av500>
jk_: did you read that I wrote?
- [16:42:48] <jk_>
yes
- [16:42:51] <jk_>
trying
- [16:43:20] <jk_>
no give up XorA
- [16:43:28] <jk_>
let us look at it
- [16:43:52] <jk_>
it seem there is issue of stack ram vs AOSP ram
- [16:44:02] <av500>
?
- [16:47:25] <jk_>
how much iPad2 has
- [16:47:31] <av500>
google knows
- [16:47:31] <jk_>
i mean mem size
- [16:47:50] <av500>
ipad does not run linux nor android
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- [16:49:07] <jk_>
yes..
- [16:49:11] <jk_>
iOs version
- [16:49:23] <jk_>
LPddr size
- [16:49:34] <jk_>
let us come back to our old Q
- [16:49:43] <XorA>
go ask Linaro, they do Android stuffs for Pandaboard
- [16:50:00] <jk_>
is it that camera module takes too much mem
- [16:50:11] <jk_>
Linaro folks from BLR or from USA
- [16:50:25] <ogra_>
all over the world
- [16:50:40] <ogra_>
just go to #linaro and ask there
- [16:50:40] <jk_>
is any one from Linaro
- [16:50:47] <jk_>
pls raise your voce pls
- [16:50:56] <ogra_>
just go to #linaro and ask there
- [16:50:59] <ogra_>
...
- [16:51:00] <jk_>
i went there
- [16:51:05] <jk_>
it was passive site
- [16:51:09] <jk_>
not active sire
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- [16:52:38] <jk_>
means
- [16:52:47] <jk_>
r the eating all
- [16:52:53] <jk_>
this just discussion site
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- [16:59:42] <jk_>
hi
- [16:59:46] <jk_>
bye then
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- [17:57:25] <MrCurious>
is omap3 cortex-a8 32bit or 64bit?
- [18:00:01] <prpplague>
32bit
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- [18:02:31] <MrCurious>
thanks prpplague. any chance you can point me at a doc i can show my boss who will immediately doubt me?
- [18:02:46] <MrCurious>
i have looked through the a8 manual, but cant spot the definitave clue
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- [18:03:42] <prpplague>
MrCurious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_processor , or simply go to the arm websitee
- [18:03:48] <MrCurious>
oh v7 is 32 bit, v8+ is 64
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- [18:05:11] <MrCurious>
is pandaboard 32 or 64?
- [18:05:21] <NishanthMenon>
MrCurious, 32
- [18:05:28] <MrCurious>
ok, thanks again :)
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- [18:45:04] <GrueMaster>
MrCurious: I haven't heard of any announcements of publicly available arm 64 bit hardware yet, other than "Coming soon".
- [18:46:51] <pbuckley>
are we talking weeks or months? ;)
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- [18:57:24] <GrueMaster>
yes. Pick a (large) number.
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- [19:09:01] <pbuckley>
:( i want an arm board with like 16gb of ram
- [19:09:17] <GrueMaster>
heh.
- [19:09:40] <GrueMaster>
You can always add a 15G swapfile to a pandaboard. :P
- [19:09:56] <pbuckley>
and then wait for a query to come back from memcache
- [19:10:00] <pbuckley>
+week
- [19:10:33] <pbuckley>
my dream is to fill a rack with like 1000 arm boards
- [19:10:58] <GrueMaster>
Not sure how much memory Cortex-A15 is supposed to handle, but iirc it breaks the 4G barrier.
- [19:11:07] <pbuckley>
?!
- [19:11:08] * pbuckley googles
- [19:11:29] <GrueMaster>
You need to look into a calxeda server when they become available.
- [19:12:05] <pbuckley>
Large Physical Address Extensions (LPAE)
- [19:12:05] <pbuckley>
The introduction of Large Physical Address Extensions (LPAE) enables the processor to access up to 1TB of memory.
- [19:12:09] <pbuckley>
nice
- [19:12:28] * pbuckley googles calxeda
- [19:12:37] <GrueMaster>
Sadly, it is in 4G pages iirc. Similar to x86 PAE.
- [19:13:13] <pbuckley>
have you played with these calxeda boards?
- [19:13:17] <GrueMaster>
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/02/hp-and-calxedas-moonshot-arm-servers-will-bring-all-the-boys-to/
- [19:13:32] <GrueMaster>
Not yet. We are on the list though.
- [19:13:32] <pbuckley>
http://www.calxeda.com/ ?
- [19:13:36] <GrueMaster>
yes.
- [19:13:51] <pbuckley>
i wonder if i can get my company on the list
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- [19:15:33] <BenHowes>
Does anyone know where to get hold of 28 way IDC sockets?
- [19:15:50] <BenHowes>
Everywhere I am looking only has 26 or 34 as the nearest :/
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- [19:16:50] <GrueMaster>
Sounds custom.
- [19:17:08] <BenHowes>
It's the 2 Expansion connectors on the PB
- [19:18:03] <BenHowes>
I can get away with 20 on J6 (dont need the USB), but on J3 I need all of them
- [19:18:41] <prpplague>
BenHowes: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardPinMux#Connectors
- [19:18:44] <BenHowes>
Finding 28 way is hard, given 28awg is what comes back ;)
- [19:18:59] <prpplague>
BenHowes: digikey also has the low profile connectors
- [19:19:57] <BenHowes>
aah, these are sockets on the board side! I was expecting a socket on the ribbon cable!
- [19:21:21] <prpplague>
BenHowes: for male headers just purchase a break off block
- [19:21:57] <BenHowes>
yeah, I have a load of them kicking about, it's just the matching IDC socket I'm having trouble finding
- [19:22:28] <BenHowes>
I may have to switch things around to have the socket on the board
- [19:22:30] <prpplague>
BenHowes: ahh you are wanting to do a ribbon cable?
- [19:22:43] <_av500_>
pretty ribbons
- [19:22:44] <prpplague>
BenHowes: the standard is for a female header on the board
- [19:23:02] <BenHowes>
for the panda, or just in general
- [19:23:05] <BenHowes>
?
- [19:24:24] <BenHowes>
prpplague: I have ribbon cable, I just thought that was an acceptable way to connect an external board up to the expansion port?
- [19:24:46] <prpplague>
BenHowes: beagle and panda
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- [19:25:13] <prpplague>
BenHowes: in general you don't want male pins extended off a board with power
- [19:25:21] <prpplague>
BenHowes: i.e. same as electrical outlets
- [19:25:31] <prpplague>
BenHowes: un-powered is male, powered is female
- [19:25:59] <BenHowes>
That figures now you mention it ;)
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- [19:36:11] <tmax2>
Hello, anyone knows how much current does PandaBoard drain tipically ?
- [19:36:24] <ogra_>
depends what you attach
- [19:36:46] <ogra_>
it starts around 2.1Amps i think
- [19:37:19] <tmax2>
whitout any extra on USB just HDMI
- [19:37:57] <ogra_>
well, the kernel usually powers the onboard USB hub, wlan card, USB NIC by default
- [19:38:24] <ogra_>
so you would have to roll your own kernel that has these disabled and the regulators switched off i guess
- [19:38:50] <tmax2>
yes but i mean whitout any device connected on USB draining current :)
- [19:39:10] <tmax2>
only HDMI and Wi-Fi
- [19:39:34] <ogra_>
it runs stable with the ubuntu kernel without USB devices attached at above 2A, thats all i know
- [19:39:55] <ogra_>
if you use attached devices you need more
- [19:39:55] <tmax2>
ok that is usefull thanks you :)
- [19:40:00] <tmax2>
yeah
- [19:41:39] <pbuckley>
GrueMaster: just sent them an email.. lets see if they respond
- [19:41:45] <pbuckley>
thanks for the pointer
- [19:42:10] <pbuckley>
might be able to get a fairly large ubuntu server installation on arm
- [19:42:16] <pbuckley>
if this thing pans out
- [19:43:21] <GrueMaster>
Well, we're listed as a software partner. And we have a server stack. I can tell you that much.
- [19:43:39] <pbuckley>
\o/
- [19:43:47] <pbuckley>
is that weeks or months out?
- [19:44:02] <pbuckley>
<gruemaster> insert "large" number
- [19:44:04] <pbuckley>
;)
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- [19:52:38] <BenHowes>
prpplague: Thank you!
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- [19:53:04] <prpplague>
BenHowes: np
- [19:53:43] <BenHowes>
With deadlines approaching I'm really tempted to just solder header pins on and use a floppy drive cable
- [19:54:19] <BenHowes>
I know that's naughty now though :/
- [19:55:21] <prpplague>
BenHowes: what are you connecting to the expansion header?
- [19:55:36] <ogra_>
a floppy drive ?
- [19:55:38] <ogra_>
:)
- [19:55:40] <prpplague>
hehe
- [19:55:49] <BenHowes>
*fingers tightly crossed* 2 parallel cameras
- [19:56:03] <BenHowes>
ogra_: ;)
- [19:56:20] <BenHowes>
over the GPMC
- [19:56:25] <prpplague>
ogra_: http://youtu.be/1plg_yYsCQM
- [19:56:41] * ogra_ uses an arm desktop, no flash :)
- [19:56:53] <BenHowes>
prpplague: +1
- [19:57:00] <prpplague>
BenHowes: thats a pretty heavy task, good luck
- [19:57:07] <pbuckley>
youtube has an html5 client
- [19:57:08] <prpplague>
ogra_: i think there is a html5 version
- [19:57:09] <pbuckley>
that works well
- [19:57:19] <ogra_>
not on my crappy ac100
- [19:57:24] <pbuckley>
:(
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- [19:57:34] <pbuckley>
get a pandaboard es ;)
- [19:57:38] <ogra_>
especially not with my ram already maxed out
- [19:57:54] <ogra_>
i have a panda es :) but not near me
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- [19:58:43] <ogra_>
_av500_, i was considering it, there are some drives that fit into the mini PCI slot inside the ac100 ... but only USB is wired up there, so its sloow
- [19:58:45] <haltdef>
my ES has just arrived in the country <3
- [19:59:06] <prpplague>
_av500_: noticed anything weird about G+ circles lately?
- [19:59:09] <BenHowes>
prpplague: It *should* be very similar to reading from a memory, which there is some source code for :)
- [19:59:13] <_av500_>
like?
- [19:59:17] <prpplague>
_av500_: the numbers don't seem to add up
- [19:59:42] <_av500_>
its a constipacy!
- [19:59:46] <BenHowes>
prpplague: the plan is that it's easier than hooking up 2 cameras to the CSI-2 interface through an FPGA
- [19:59:55] <prpplague>
_av500_: on my profile page it says i have 617 people following me, but if i check the circles pages it says i only have 596
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prpplague: 21 left
- [20:00:36] <prpplague>
_av500_: shouldn't those numbers match then?
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- [20:01:16] <_av500_>
prpplague: 1st world problems?
- [20:01:45] <prpplague>
hehe
- [20:01:49] <Defiant>
hmm camera via GPMC? Cool idea
- [20:03:45] <BenHowes>
:)
- [20:05:08] <BenHowes>
got to dash, thanks for the advice everyone :D
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- [20:24:25] <jayabharath_>
prpplague: I think someone at Google forgot math ;)
- [20:24:35] <prpplague>
jayabharath_: hehe
- [20:25:09] <prpplague>
jayabharath_: i'm wondering if there are group/product followers that don't count
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- [20:27:56] <prpplague>
XorA: did you turn it into a guitar
- [20:28:08] <XorA>
prpplague: no, I made it crash before console is up
- [20:28:59] <XorA>
prpplague: but this at least means it started talking to my PMIC before it died :-D
- [20:30:29] <prpplague>
hehe
- [20:38:48] <XorA>
and its a missing if (!pdata)
- [20:39:12] <prpplague>
doh
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- [21:03:12] <chrmhoffmann>
hi. i have a question about timer11 on pandaboard and the ducati FW. Apparently ducati fw uses timer11 for watchdog. Doesn't panda have this wired to ssthing else?
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- [21:04:11] <_av500_>
ducati uses so many timers
- [21:05:06] <chrmhoffmann>
_av500_, the reason why I am asking is that I have a omap4430 board also (nook tablet). and apparently we have lcd pwm hooked on timer11 whereas ducati uses timer11 as watchdog.
- [21:05:22] <_av500_>
hmm
- [21:05:33] <_av500_>
yes, timer11 is in hard demand
- [21:05:51] <chrmhoffmann>
so we can't really use std ducati fw. I was wondering if someother "opensource" board has a ductati fw that uses e.g. timer10 as it used to be in older (pre ICS) fws.
- [21:05:58] <_av500_>
and the subset of timers pins that is a) pwm and b) not used by ducati is small
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- [21:06:25] <_av500_>
IIRC ducati uses 3 timers
- [21:06:38] <_av500_>
but i forgot, we went thru all that months ago
- [21:06:45] <_av500_>
and even changed the schematics
- [21:06:56] <_av500_>
so that ti can waste all these pwm pins...
- [21:07:10] <chrmhoffmann>
_av500_, there's a thread on a TI board that explains our problem. http://e2e.ti.com/support/omap/f/849/t/169373.aspx
- [21:07:19] <_av500_>
i know your problem
- [21:07:24] <chrmhoffmann>
ok.
- [21:07:37] <_av500_>
i have been thru it even on omap3
- [21:07:48] <_av500_>
there it was gpt8, mapped to the dsp
- [21:07:55] <chrmhoffmann>
they have apparenlty a patch on gerrit which shows how to make it work on timer10.
- [21:08:11] <chrmhoffmann>
but we don't have (?) the means to rebuilt ducati fw.
- [21:08:23] <_av500_>
then use hexedit :)
- [21:09:09] <_av500_>
i wonder how nook got gpt11
- [21:09:23] <_av500_>
when we looked at it, we saw no way
- [21:09:36] <_av500_>
thus we moved that pwm even
- [21:09:41] <chrmhoffmann>
the changes here don't look as if it was doable in hexedit http://review.omapzoom.org/#/c/18246/
- [21:10:44] <chrmhoffmann>
if they have done it for some customers it might be findable on some device :)
- [21:11:34] <chrmhoffmann>
_av500_, you think we can find that device?
- [21:11:57] <_av500_>
chrmhoffmann: wont be much use
- [21:12:08] <_av500_>
that could be some random one-off ducati bild
- [21:12:09] <_av500_>
build
- [21:12:30] <_av500_>
nook is ducati 1.5?
- [21:12:53] <chrmhoffmann>
some android gingerbread version. ddk 1.7.
- [21:13:37] <chrmhoffmann>
_av500_, basically we started porting ICS and we have kernel and stuff booting. so ducati would be very nice :)
- [21:14:00] <chrmhoffmann>
but it sits on our lcd pwm :)
- [21:21:54] <chrmhoffmann>
it's not exactly clear to me what is opensource here and what not.
- [21:22:06] <chrmhoffmann>
the sysbios-rpmsg is also on omapzoom.
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ls
- [21:27:58] <asdf_>
Hello
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- [21:59:58] <netman87>
any tips? its now little bit too racist http://netman87.kapsi.fi/facedetect_orig.jpg http://netman87.kapsi.fi/facedetect.jpg http://netman87.kapsi.fi/facedetect.cpp
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cvSetBreiwikMode(false);
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- [22:09:38] <flowd>
so can help me with ubuntu 11.10 install pls? :(
- [22:10:11] <_av500_>
follow the instructions
- [22:11:25] <flowd>
i do, several times, but when xserver starts and basic configuration begins, xserver restarts and im in an basic configuartion loop :(
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- [22:12:24] <flowd>
in daily i can't install ros and 11.04 pandaboard does not boot..
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- [22:14:16] <netman87>
ynezz: google didnt found that command, what it does?
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- [22:21:20] <prpplague>
flowd: please ask in #ubuntu-arm
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- [22:22:07] <flowd>
ok, thx^^
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- [22:28:05] <jpinones>
hi
- [22:28:40] <jpinones>
can somebody point me to the Time command that calls the MAKE -J4 command and tells me build time at the end of the process? Thanks.
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- [22:32:25] <mru>
-> time make -j4
- [22:39:28] <netman87>
he did want MAKE isntead of make
- [22:39:48] <netman87>
me trolls me go somewhere else
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_av500_, thx for all explanations. I got disconnected.
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- [22:55:23] <marcusbarnet>
hi
- [22:55:35] <marcusbarnet>
i'd like to ask some information about the shutdown of pandaboard
- [22:55:47] <marcusbarnet>
is there someone?
- [22:56:10] <_av500_>
no
- [22:56:21] <_av500_>
we are closed until 8am UGT
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- [22:56:38] <marcusbarnet>
really :)
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- [22:57:49] <marcusbarnet>
:)
- [22:57:51] <marcusbarnet>
damn :)
- [22:58:32] <_av500_>
anyway, there is not much "shutdown"
- [22:58:56] <_av500_>
just pull the plug
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- [23:02:48] <marcusbarnet>
the problem is that i'm using the pandaboard to move a mobile robot..
- [23:03:13] <marcusbarnet>
the operator should press a button to power on the system which runs on the pandaboard.. and then press again the button to shutdown it
- [23:03:32] <_av500_>
then you need external hardware
- [23:03:37] <_av500_>
around the panda
- [23:03:39] <marcusbarnet>
yep
- [23:03:54] <marcusbarnet>
but i do not know where to connect the external hardware
- [23:04:06] <_av500_>
at the DC-in connector
- [23:04:15] <_av500_>
you switch the power
- [23:04:22] <_av500_>
quite simple
- [23:04:29] <_av500_>
use a pic or so
- [23:04:43] <_av500_>
some tiny microcontroller
- [23:04:48] <marcusbarnet>
yes, but i run ubuntu on the pandaboard, if i simply shutdown the power, the operating system should be damaged
- [23:05:01] <_av500_>
well, be creative
- [23:05:10] <_av500_>
tell ubuntu you are shutting down
- [23:05:19] <_av500_>
and let ubuntu tell you that it is done
- [23:05:47] <_av500_>
but was that not your homework :)
- [23:05:56] <marcusbarnet>
yes, but how.. i'm thinking to connect the switch at the atmel board which i'm using for the low I/O.. then i send the shutdown information to the pandaboard via USB
- [23:06:05] <_av500_>
usb?
- [23:06:17] <_av500_>
for a simple yes/no signal?
- [23:06:30] <_av500_>
the moon lander did not have usb
- [23:07:04] <marcusbarnet>
at the moment, i'm using usb usb to share data between pandaboard and the controller (like motor and sensors information)
- [23:07:15] <marcusbarnet>
so i can use the usb even for the shutdown information
- [23:07:20] <_av500_>
well, you can use usb too if you ha ve that
- [23:07:25] <_av500_>
already
- [23:07:35] <marcusbarnet>
otherwise, can i use JTAG connector?
- [23:11:07] <_av500_>
you can use what you want
- [23:11:24] <_av500_>
even jtag to write "shutdown" directly into the bash comandline
- [23:12:54] <marcusbarnet>
mmh.. i think i can't use the same switch to power on and power off the pandaboard
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- [23:14:57] <marcusbarnet>
to power on the pandaboard, i have to plug the power but to shutdown it i have to send a specific signal because i can't just disconnect it from the power.. so ii have to use two different switches..
- [23:14:58] <marcusbarnet>
:S
- [23:15:24] <_av500_>
not sure what you mean
- [23:16:02] <marcusbarnet>
i try to explain you better
- [23:16:03] <_av500_>
you make your atmel control power to the panda
- [23:16:15] <_av500_>
to power it on, you just power it
- [23:16:22] <_av500_>
to power it off, you tell it to shutdown
- [23:16:30] <_av500_>
and once its done with that, you cut the power
- [23:17:11] <marcusbarnet>
so you mean: i first power on the atmel which use (for example) a transistor to connect the pandaboard to the battery in order to power up it..
- [23:17:26] <_av500_>
leave the atmel on all the time if needed
- [23:17:29] <_av500_>
or use a msp430
- [23:17:37] <_av500_>
these can run ages on a battery
- [23:18:05] <_av500_>
transistor probably not
- [23:18:11] <_av500_>
but some FET based switch
- [23:18:17] <_av500_>
that can switch 2-3A
- [23:18:24] <marcusbarnet>
a mosfet?
- [23:19:06] <marcusbarnet>
i'm going to power the pandaboard with a 3.5A/5V voltage regulator connected to a 12V, 7.5Ah battery
- [23:20:14] <marcusbarnet>
the problem with this solution is that arduino has to always be powerup.. or as you said, i can use a msp430 to manage the poweron/poweroff
- [23:21:25] <_av500_>
well, i guess there are low power atmels too
- [23:22:37] <marcusbarnet>
the problem is that my atmel comsumption is high because it uses a lots of sensors which are always on.. i can control the poweron/off switch with another microcontroller.. i do not know
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- [23:23:52] <_av500_>
well, you can make the atmel kill its own power too
- [23:24:00] <_av500_>
you dont need a micro to hold a switch in ON
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- [23:25:42] <marcusbarnet>
well, atmel can kill its power after having sended the shutdown info to pandaboard.. isn't it?
- [23:26:11] <_av500_>
sure
- [23:26:16] <_av500_>
its all sw
- [23:26:19] <_av500_>
and a bit of hw
- [23:26:26] <_av500_>
this is not rocket surgery
- [23:27:09] <marcusbarnet>
ok :) thanks a lot :)
- [23:27:32] <marcusbarnet>
you really helped me
- [23:27:50] <_av500_>
I want 10%
- [23:28:02] <marcusbarnet>
damn :(
- [23:28:06] <marcusbarnet>
5% ?
- [23:28:10] <_av500_>
deal
- [23:28:24] <marcusbarnet>
great! i'm in
- [23:28:40] <_av500_>
i'll have my lawyers contact yours
- [23:29:36] <marcusbarnet>
do you have good lawyers? i do not :( mine are not so good
- [23:29:43] <marcusbarnet>
(and this is good for you)
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- [23:33:27] <marcusbarnet>
i have to leave now.. thanks again for your help
- [23:33:31] <marcusbarnet>
have a nice day
- [23:34:45] <chrmhoffmann>
uoRxAvo1tgVfySVxvVsHwpFNnnwV5n1D
- [23:34:52] <chrmhoffmann>
soory
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- [23:36:31] <_av500_>
noo prooblem
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did someone forget to turn on c++ symbol demangling?
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