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IRC Log for 2011-10-21

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  23. [02:25:20] <jkfang> whois jkfang
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  30. [02:39:48] <jkfangTW> Does anyone know how to install omap4-extras-multimedia for ubuntu(Oneiric) ?
  31. [02:41:37] <prpplague> jkfangTW: ask in #ubuntu-arm
  32. [02:42:11] <jkfangTW> thanks
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  42. [03:36:38] <Guest16707> I have made a prototype product with the pandaboard is it better to buy the pandaboard in bulk or go with something else?
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  78. [07:30:14] <LetoThe2nd> m??in
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  119. [09:20:23] * Topic is 'OMAP discussion & development on PandaBoard Platform | Site: http://www.PandaBoard.org | Paste @ http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/ |Wiki: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard | IRC logs: http://www.pandaboard.org/pbirclogs/ | IRC Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ircsurvivalguide'
  120. [09:20:23] * Set by orbarron!~orb@nat/ti/x-ztoqabxrceydslsj on Mon Jun 06 15:00:29 UTC 2011
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  141. [10:35:47] <Developer> hi everybody
  142. [10:36:14] <Developer> can anybody tell me a contact of the producer of pandaboard
  143. [10:37:34] <Developer> i have to order a big amount of pandaboards so i need a direct contact...
  144. [10:37:36] <Developer> thankx!
  145. [10:38:58] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: ask TI directly, but be _REALLY_ AWARE_ of http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard_FAQ#Is_PandaBoard_an_end_product.3F_Or.2C_can_I_use_PandaBoard_in_my_end_product.3F
  146. [10:39:51] <Luca256> does anyone know why I'm getting "X-loader hangs" when I reboot my panda?
  147. [10:40:12] <Luca256> previously my problem was that when I rebooted it would go to "fastboot" and hang there
  148. [10:40:28] <Luca256> now I recomplied u-boot and I get the x-loader hangs message
  149. [10:40:35] <Luca256> this happens only when rebooting via software
  150. [10:40:52] <Luca256> at power on or with the rest button on the board itself, it boots fine
  151. [10:41:39] <Developer> who is the first producer of pandaboard?
  152. [10:42:34] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: circuitco. but above said still applies, and they certainly won't sell you notable quatities directly, because the pandabaord is heavily subsidized by TI and they won't allow.
  153. [10:42:57] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: therefore: ask a known reseller, or TI.
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  155. [10:44:23] <Developer> i ask to a reseller but i've to order 100000 pandaboard.....i think is a bigger order than a reseller...
  156. [10:44:54] <Defiant-> rofl
  157. [10:44:57] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: ask your trustworthy TI salesperson. but i place a sure bet on "NO".
  158. [10:45:27] <Developer> the reseller told me that the price for 1 pandaboard is 155 euro/piece and if i buy 100000 pandaboard he can sold me 150???/piece....that is not possible...i hope i can buy for a less price...
  159. [10:45:37] <Developer> TI is texas instruments?
  160. [10:46:07] <koen> for a 100k run you should bypass the reseller :)
  161. [10:46:26] <koen> although I doubt you'll get a better price
  162. [10:46:31] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: let me emphasize it once more: the pandaboard is a dev kit. TI subsidizes the dev kit, so it is cheaper for enthusiasts. but TI certainly won't donate their money to your business. they will say: buy at the regular price, and especially not a pandaboard.
  163. [10:47:31] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: phytec for example is a manufacturer that will happily sell you 100k units. but they wont sell at 150$, just because nobody is gonna give you money for free.
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  166. [10:48:57] <LetoThe2nd> Developer: and last but not least: the pandaboard is a dev kit for enthusiast, that TI artificially makes cheap, so hobbyists can play with it. you have no god-given right or whatsoever to think that they have to sell you the quantity that you would like. it just doesn't work like this.
  167. [10:50:01] <LetoThe2nd> so bottom line: go ahead, and ask TI and/or circuitco. but i'm sure the answer will be "NO".
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  169. [10:52:48] <mru> 100k pandaboards? wtf
  170. [10:53:11] <LetoThe2nd> mru: the usual i-am-so-important-and-ti-must-sell-me-what-i-want thing.
  171. [10:53:20] <Luca256> can we go back to more down to earth stuff? :)
  172. [10:53:24] <mru> yes, I know
  173. [10:53:29] <Luca256> anyone knows the problem I described? :P
  174. [10:53:29] * LetoThe2nd is AFK then for a few, it's all been said anyway.
  175. [10:55:29] <Developer> dear friend, nobody gets anything for nothing, do you think TI has a gain of at least 50%? I developed a large project using the potential of pandaboard then pandaboard is ideal, I found some interested customers and donors, so I would like to base everything on pandaboard. The manufacturer has pandaboard a huge profit if they buy 100000, and I did gain by avoiding development time, as we all know that in the technological wor
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  177. [10:56:04] <mru> TI does not make a profit on the pandaboard
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  180. [10:56:38] <mru> Developer: you *might* be able to buy the omap4 chips from TI if you ask really nicely and they like you
  181. [10:56:58] <mru> then you can have your favourite CM build you as many pandas as you like
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  185. [11:11:01] <LetoThe2nd> always the same. they never seem to listen.
  186. [11:11:50] <ShadowJK> What would happen if he tried to order 100k from digikey? :)
  187. [11:17:21] <aquadran> worst thing would be if digikey accept order :)
  188. [11:18:24] <mru> they should know better than that
  189. [11:22:55] <ShadowJK> where lies the limit?
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  200. [12:18:34] <grok> hi there
  201. [12:19:21] <grok> could please anyone help me out spotting some GPIO problems?
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  205. [12:30:46] <hitlin37> grok,why don't you simply tell what problem you are facing,instead of asking to ask.
  206. [12:30:55] <grokstein> haha
  207. [12:30:58] <grokstein> ok then
  208. [12:32:11] <grokstein> i want to use some pins available at J3 connector as GPIO's
  209. [12:32:31] <grokstein> i've checked /sys/class/gpio exists
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  211. [12:33:06] <grokstein> and i can also export the pins i want, via "echo 155 > export" e.g.
  212. [12:33:14] <grokstein> now
  213. [12:33:38] <grokstein> maybe i should mention its running ubuntu
  214. [12:33:51] <grokstein> ok, new when i get into the gpio155 fodler
  215. [12:34:09] <grokstein> i set output direction, via "echo out > direction"
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  218. [12:34:55] <grokstein> and now, i want 5v on that pin, so "echo 1 > value" should work just fine
  219. [12:34:59] <grokstein> but
  220. [12:35:18] <grokstein> my multimeter sticks on 1.8v on that pin
  221. [12:35:39] <grokstein> so i think maybe pinmux is not set correctly
  222. [12:35:52] <grokstein> and its outputting some other stuff
  223. [12:36:12] <grokstein> what do you think?
  224. [12:36:40] <grokstein> btw sorry if my english sounds weird sometimes, im not native
  225. [12:38:23] <hitlin37> see into the trm about its detail and then check if pin mux values is set
  226. [12:41:37] <hitlin37> or try this http://omappedia.org/wiki/GPIO#FAQ
  227. [12:42:20] <grokstein> yes, i saw that link
  228. [12:42:34] <grokstein> that exactly what im doing, but it doesnt seem to work
  229. [12:43:29] <grokstein> mmh and how do i exactly set the pin mux? i mean, i've heard about pinmux tools and so
  230. [12:43:38] <hitlin37> then better refere trm and mux values
  231. [12:43:41] <grokstein> also in the x-loader source
  232. [12:44:33] <grokstein> but i didn't install ubuntu on this board, i got it with ubuntu already running on it, so i'm unfamiliar with the u-boot and x-loader process
  233. [12:45:04] <hitlin37> you can look into those values into your kernel sources that you are using
  234. [12:45:35] <hitlin37> download the source and start digging into it.:)
  235. [12:46:51] <grokstein> mmh ok, i will give that a try
  236. [12:47:01] <grokstein> thanks for your help :)
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  250. [13:12:11] <XorA> prpplague: DUDE!!!
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  254. [13:14:56] <Sage_> hi, where is the pandaboard linux kernel upstream?
  255. [13:15:32] * tomeff (~Adium@142.243.broadband9.iol.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  256. [13:15:40] <Sage_> and with this I don't mean kernel.org.
  257. [13:16:21] <robclark> kernel.org
  258. [13:20:17] <XorA> heh
  259. [13:21:50] <prpplague> XorA: SWEET!!!
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  261. [13:22:11] <koen> oh dear, xora and plague are at it again
  262. [13:22:24] <prpplague> hehe
  263. [13:22:36] <XorA> its ok koen, I wont be in Prague so it will be safe :-)
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  266. [13:23:25] <prpplague> bbiab
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  307. [15:58:29] <fedon> is there any news about pvr driver?
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  309. [16:00:04] <prpplague> fedon: news in what way?
  310. [16:00:20] <fedon> basically i am interested in movie playback, so I have installed ubuntu-omap4-extras-graphics
  311. [16:00:32] <fedon> but now it is even worse, X doesn't start
  312. [16:00:36] <mru> http://www.google.com/search?q=news+about+pvr+driver :)
  313. [16:01:00] <prpplague> fedon: ask in #ubuntu-arm
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  315. [16:01:10] <mru> the sgx/pvr drivers have nothing to do with video playback
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  317. [16:01:23] <koen> mru: in ubuntu they do
  318. [16:01:29] <koen> mru: xv is backed by shaders
  319. [16:01:35] <koen> (short version)
  320. [16:01:38] <mru> who said anything about xv?
  321. [16:01:46] <mru> xv is poor way of displaying video
  322. [16:02:39] <koen> he's already using ubuntu
  323. [16:02:45] <mru> so?
  324. [16:02:52] <koen> so poor performance is already builtin :)
  325. [16:02:52] <fedon> but why X crashes? and how to enable H.264 accel
  326. [16:03:00] <mru> has ubuntu completely broken sane things like v4l2?
  327. [16:03:10] <mru> not that I'd be surprised
  328. [16:04:31] <fedon> does any one know how to enable H.264 accel ?
  329. [16:06:31] <fedon> ubuntu with 11.04
  330. [16:09:19] <ogra_> you cant, TI didnt provide any multimedia stuff for 11.04
  331. [16:09:34] <ogra_> well, i suppose you could with a lot of manual effort
  332. [16:09:56] <ogra_> there are only packages for 10.10 and 11.10
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  334. [16:10:25] <fedon> 11.10 image is ready?
  335. [16:11:34] <fedon> ogra_: did u try video on 11.10? is it scalable and whith hw accel?
  336. [16:12:00] <ogra_> no, i didnt, the drivers werent there on release day ... ask ndec for a status
  337. [16:12:18] <ogra_> his team cares for the ubuntu-MM stuff in TI
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  340. [16:13:19] <VarmVaffel> why panda?
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  342. [16:14:44] <prpplague> VarmVaffel: why panda what?
  343. [16:15:02] <VarmVaffel> Why name the board panda :P
  344. [16:15:20] <mru> the word is derived from nepali
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  346. [16:15:50] <VarmVaffel> I see...
  347. [16:15:53] <prpplague> VarmVaffel: TI has a history of naming their community based boards after animals
  348. [16:16:06] <VarmVaffel> aha
  349. [16:16:09] <prpplague> VarmVaffel: as to the specifics of panda, you'd have to talk to the marketing people
  350. [16:16:16] * XorA wonders which animal the zoom was then :-D
  351. [16:16:24] <VarmVaffel> I guess somebody like pandas
  352. [16:16:28] <VarmVaffel> over there
  353. [16:16:37] <XorA> its an evolutionary dead end :-D
  354. [16:16:39] <ogra_> XorA, well, at that price it wasnt really a community board
  355. [16:16:50] * XorA hides from prpplague
  356. [16:17:08] <prpplague> XorA: platypus maybe?
  357. [16:17:40] <fedon> mru: is there a way to have xv works with ubuntu atleast?
  358. [16:17:50] <mru> no idea
  359. [16:18:12] <fedon> mru: and in general?
  360. [16:18:21] <mru> in general, avoid xv
  361. [16:18:35] <fedon> and how to scale video?
  362. [16:19:07] <mru> on the omap4 v4l2 is currently the best option
  363. [16:19:08] * XorA really needs to find a use for his zoom3 :-)
  364. [16:19:39] * prpplague refrains from making suggestions to XorA for use of zoom3
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  366. [16:20:22] <mru> XorA: you could use it as paperweight
  367. [16:20:25] <ogra_> send it to me, i have a table here that could use some leveling on one leg :)
  368. [16:20:28] <mru> or to throw at intruders
  369. [16:20:43] <mru> mount it in a display case on the wall
  370. [16:21:06] <mru> disassemble it and build something from the parts
  371. [16:22:10] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  372. [16:22:19] * prpplague whines about too much work to do before monday
  373. [16:22:38] <mru> pick a different monday
  374. [16:23:18] <prpplague> ~lart mru
  375. [16:23:21] <XorA> prpplague: your on holiday next week though ;-)
  376. [16:23:49] <prpplague> XorA: hehe, only partially, got too much to do at ELC-E
  377. [16:24:08] <XorA> 20Oz curls dont count :-D
  378. [16:24:16] <ogra_> delegate !
  379. [16:24:35] <prpplague> XorA: hehe
  380. [16:24:39] <XorA> or 568g curls for our europeans :-D
  381. [16:25:10] <prpplague> XorA: sounds a lot more impressive in g's
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  383. [16:25:43] * prpplague wonders why this git clone is taking soooooo long
  384. [16:26:05] <mru> project too bloated and/or link too slow
  385. [16:27:13] <prpplague> you might be a nerd if...... you ask your wife to please commit the changes to this week's shopping list to git prior to going to the grocery store.....
  386. [16:27:30] <XorA> oh dear
  387. [16:27:59] <mru> but at least you *have* a wife
  388. [16:28:03] * XorA rebases prpplague shopping, now all he can drink is Tennant Super
  389. [16:28:12] <prpplague> (avoid complaining about running checkpatch.pl to avoid arguments)
  390. [16:29:59] <prpplague> XorA: hehe
  391. [16:30:36] <prpplague> mru: oh makes sense now, a bunch of java files......
  392. [16:30:43] <aquadran> robclark: are you here ?
  393. [16:30:54] <robclark> hey aquadran
  394. [16:30:57] <prpplague> robclark is never completely "here"
  395. [16:31:03] <aquadran> robclark: hey
  396. [16:31:03] <robclark> heheh
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  398. [16:32:19] <aquadran> robclark: i just wondering if it was possible for you rebuild ducati firmware with mpeg2 codec for L24.11, i mean put into public in libdce
  399. [16:32:56] <robclark> hmm, not sure if it is that easy..
  400. [16:33:06] <robclark> I mean, older codec-engine, fc, bios, etc..
  401. [16:33:32] <robclark> any reason not to use 11.04? Or even better, 11.10?
  402. [16:33:34] <aquadran> ah, ok then, not really issues, as arm handle mpeg2 decode not bad
  403. [16:33:54] <aquadran> robclark: v4l2 is not updated
  404. [16:34:00] <robclark> ahh
  405. [16:34:04] <aquadran> i mean on ubuntu branch
  406. [16:34:08] <aquadran> 11.10
  407. [16:34:20] <robclark> for 11.10, pvr for rendering video
  408. [16:34:27] <aquadran> v4l2 is not updated at all any branch i think
  409. [16:34:37] <robclark> yeah, v4l2 is sort of legacy
  410. [16:34:59] <mru> why are all good things declared "legacy" and replaced with utter crap?
  411. [16:35:14] <robclark> well, v4l2 wasn't exactly a good thing
  412. [16:35:21] <mru> at least it works
  413. [16:35:25] * koen adds a dbus interface to pvr
  414. [16:35:30] <mru> and it's efficient
  415. [16:35:30] <robclark> in some cases
  416. [16:35:41] <robclark> it is effecient, but not flexible..
  417. [16:35:41] <mru> it could easily be fixed to work in all cases
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  419. [16:35:45] <prpplague> mru: i think my ex-wife asked a similar question.......
  420. [16:35:48] <aquadran> robclark: but with new codecs mpeg4dec is not published, but it is in your l24.11 :)
  421. [16:35:54] <mru> going through the gpu is a total waste
  422. [16:37:33] <robclark> mru, not always.. and sometimes it is necessary for more fancy effects..
  423. [16:37:48] <robclark> the long term goal is to dynamically switch, transparent to the application
  424. [16:38:07] <robclark> there are some intermediate steps, and full GPU is the first of those..
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  427. [16:40:23] <mru> so because *sometimes* it might be needed, we're not allowed to do it the simple, clean, efficient way *ever*?
  428. [16:40:27] <mru> this is so depressing
  429. [16:42:34] <XorA> all this work just so one person can have bouncy windows and a really slow desktop :-D
  430. [16:43:25] <koen> XorA: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-October/msg00118.html
  431. [16:43:26] <robclark> the gpu has got enough bandwidth for handling video..
  432. [16:43:30] <XorA> anyway it is the end of working day
  433. [16:43:35] <robclark> that is not really the problem
  434. [16:44:33] <XorA> koen: nice email, yeah gnome3 and unity are just broken by design and getting worse
  435. [16:44:46] <XorA> especally on an OS where the gfx drivers already suck
  436. [16:45:10] <mru> robclark: gpu uses power
  437. [16:45:15] <mru> ram accesses use power
  438. [16:46:58] <mru> and using the gpu is difficult and annoying when all you want is show some video
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  440. [16:51:21] <mru> unix was always about keeping separate things separate
  441. [16:51:37] <mru> ubuntu seems to be all about turning everything into one giant blob
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  444. [16:58:38] <jayabharath> sjhill: does Audio work on 4430Panda using Linaro Android LEB build?
  445. [16:59:54] <prpplague> jayabharath: the test build i have works, but you need an updated alsa conf
  446. [16:59:59] <prpplague> brb lunch
  447. [17:00:18] <jayabharath> prpplague: in the lianro LEB kernel?
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  451. [17:32:46] <prpplague> jayabharath: yea
  452. [17:32:59] <prpplague> jayabharath: that was just kernel tests, not from android gui
  453. [17:36:49] <jayabharath> prpplague: thats good
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  459. [18:12:52] <BlInK311> would you be able to transmit or receive video over the bluetooth on the pb?
  460. [18:13:40] <jayabharath> BlInK311: In theory sure??? in practice it's just not enough bandwidth to stream decent resolution videos over bluetooth
  461. [18:14:33] <jayabharath> BlInK311: There is something similar over WLAN that is being worked on by some folks at http://pandaboard.org/content/wireless-video-sync-over-wlan
  462. [18:15:20] <jayabharath> BlInK311: However, they have not pushed the sources yet..
  463. [18:16:00] <BlInK311> alright, thanks
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  467. [18:17:04] <ds2> what bit rate of video?
  468. [18:17:46] <BlInK311> i dont have a need for high quality video, something like 720x480 would be fine or 640x480
  469. [18:18:40] <ds2> with a good enough codec... u got as much as maybe 3Mbs available on a bluetooth link
  470. [18:18:50] <ds2> what bit rate? u are describing resolution
  471. [18:19:37] <ds2> I can send you a video stream at 1bit per hour...(i.e. a black image that changes to one every hour but I doubt that meets your needs)
  472. [18:20:25] <ds2> on the other extreme if you are sending video at 1000fps, of a grassy field with wind blowing over it...
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  482. [18:38:02] <Defiant-> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Chengdu-pandas-d18.jpg&filetimestamp=20060123212333 Looks like it is close to the size of the Pandaboard
  483. [18:41:14] <prpplague> Defiant-: put that on a skewer and grill it
  484. [18:41:43] * robclark pokes prpplague in the eye with a sharp stick
  485. [18:41:45] <robclark> :-P
  486. [18:41:49] <prpplague> hehe
  487. [18:42:40] <Defiant-> you think it tastes good?
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  489. [18:43:19] <prpplague> Defiant-: bar-b-q can make anything taste good
  490. [18:43:42] <jayneil> Hi all. I had a question: Is it possible to port Open CV 2.3 to Panda board..?
  491. [18:44:10] <prpplague> jayneil: iirc there is already an opencv project support for panda
  492. [18:44:51] <prpplague> jayneil: just google for opencv and pandaboard
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  494. [18:46:34] <jayneil> thank you..
  495. [18:46:58] <jayneil> also is it possible to connect Microsoft Kinect to the pandaboard..?
  496. [18:47:21] <prpplague> jayneil: yes i believe there is some support for it, but i do not know to what extend
  497. [18:47:23] <prpplague> extent
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  500. [18:49:36] <jayneil> ok
  501. [18:51:55] <nhg> jayneil: http://tirokartblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/kinect-on-the-pandaboard/
  502. [18:53:46] <jayneil> its nice..thank you very much..
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  507. [19:22:20] <BlInK311> ds2: sorry i had to step away. idk my bit rate. looking for about 30fps
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  521. [20:16:09] <aquadran> robclark: do you know why there are separated sorces for pvr kernel module, one in kernel ubuntu integration tree, one from ppa package sources ?
  522. [20:16:54] <robclark> the pvr kernel module in kernel tree (which is a horrible idea for various reasons) is something for android
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  531. [20:42:55] <aquadran> robclark: expect pvrvideosink here http://gitorious.org/gstreamer-omap ?
  532. [20:44:52] <robclark> aquadran, IIRC the plan was to push it to gst-plugins-bad
  533. [20:45:01] <robclark> although I don't see it there yete
  534. [20:45:32] <aquadran> ok, i'll track future changes
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  538. [21:13:57] <aquadran> robclark: i see that pvr-omap4-dkms-1.7.9.0.1 seems not even tested if compiling without x11/drm. that doesn't sound good
  539. [21:16:43] <robclark> well, the kernel module should not care about x11.. but non-drm build is not supported
  540. [21:17:37] <robclark> for non-x11 use, the kernel module should be built the same way, but just use null wsegl window system module..
  541. [21:18:16] <robclark> (although whether that works currently, I don't know.. I remember some issues about that but I don't think anyone has had a chance to fix that)
  542. [21:23:54] <aquadran> robclark: in sources there is define 'want_xorg' if 1 it's enable drm. but from you told me i should build it as it is, want_xorg doesn't change anything, and it's only confusing. no switch for x11
  543. [21:24:44] <robclark> yes, want_xorg is just confusion..
  544. [21:25:00] <robclark> you want_xorg=1 even if you don't want xorg ;-)
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  546. [21:25:24] <aquadran> :)
  547. [21:25:55] <robclark> (although I'd suggest to stick with xorg to start with, if possible.. since nullws stuff is probably not well tested at this point..)
  548. [21:27:35] <ka6sox> has anyone gotten pocketsphinx running on a panda?
  549. [21:29:15] <mru> is that a sphinx in your pocket... ?
  550. [21:30:42] <ka6sox> well...california is making it tough for me to figure out how to be stuck on the freeway and get any work done for hours.
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