#pandaboard IRC Log on pandaboard.org

Join the chat at pandaboard.org/irc

Index

IRC Log for 2011-09-12

Timestamps are in UTC.

  1. [00:03:35] * mike85 (868204f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.130.4.243) has joined #pandaboard
  2. [00:04:14] <mike85> hi all
  3. [00:05:00] <mike85> i've built my own stripped-down kernel (mainline 3.0) and I don't get any entry under /proc/asound/cards
  4. [00:05:20] <mike85> using the snd-soc-omap driver
  5. [00:05:49] <mike85> is this the right driver for the pandaboard? am i doing smth wrong?
  6. [00:31:28] * sakoman_ (~sakoman@static-74-41-60-154.dsl1.pco.ca.frontiernet.net) has joined #pandaboard
  7. [00:32:45] * sakoman (~sakoman@static-74-41-60-154.dsl1.pco.ca.frontiernet.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  8. [00:45:59] * vib (a5546a05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.84.106.5) has joined #pandaboard
  9. [00:46:00] <vib> hi there!
  10. [00:47:54] <vib> hello!
  11. [00:48:04] * vib (a5546a05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.165.84.106.5) Quit (Client Quit)
  12. [01:25:53] * mike85 (868204f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.130.4.243) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
  13. [01:43:48] * MohammadAG (~MohammadA@ipv6.indus.air.ai) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  14. [01:50:07] * MohammadAG (~MohammadA@ipv6.indus.air.ai) has joined #pandaboard
  15. [01:55:46] * toobluesc (~nitro@cpe-70-116-138-43.tx.res.rr.com) has joined #pandaboard
  16. [02:00:08] * MohammadAG (~MohammadA@ipv6.indus.air.ai) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  17. [02:02:57] * MohammadAG (~MohammadA@ipv6.indus.air.ai) has joined #pandaboard
  18. [02:20:43] * tonu (~tonu@122x213x52x170.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) has joined #pandaboard
  19. [02:34:30] * [7] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) Quit (Disconnected by services)
  20. [02:34:47] * TheSeven (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) has joined #pandaboard
  21. [02:38:01] * botao_sun (~botao_sun@linaro/botao-sun) has joined #pandaboard
  22. [02:52:46] * prpplague (~prpplague@ppp-70-249-146-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #pandaboard
  23. [02:55:11] * emeb (~ericb@ip72-223-85-60.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  24. [02:57:28] * nit0912 (75c94544@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.201.69.68) has joined #pandaboard
  25. [02:58:43] * rsalveti (~rsalveti@linaro/rsalveti) Quit (Quit: Coyote finally caught me)
  26. [02:59:20] * rsalveti (~rsalveti@189.61.233.110) has joined #pandaboard
  27. [02:59:20] * rsalveti (~rsalveti@189.61.233.110) Quit (Changing host)
  28. [02:59:20] * rsalveti (~rsalveti@linaro/rsalveti) has joined #pandaboard
  29. [03:04:35] * mic4ael (5409302f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.9.48.47) has joined #pandaboard
  30. [03:04:47] <mic4ael> hello everyone!
  31. [03:07:07] <mic4ael> I couldnt find an answer to one problem online, hope you could help
  32. [03:07:39] <netman87> i dont really get people who ask help
  33. [03:07:44] <netman87> but never write about problem
  34. [03:07:48] <mic4ael> it has been few days I try to boot pandroid
  35. [03:08:06] <netman87> there is alse some weirdos those part or quit instantly after asking
  36. [03:08:10] <mic4ael> status LED 1 keeps flashing, no serial output nothing happens
  37. [03:08:55] <mic4ael> pandaboard Rev 2, Pandroid L27.12.1
  38. [03:09:58] <netman87> sorry cant help as i dont have pandaboard yet
  39. [03:10:36] <nit0912> sory buddy, cant help. still not received pandaboard. waitin 4 last 7 dayz
  40. [03:11:05] <mic4ael> i managed to get ubuntu working by copying the whole image to sd card using "sh -c" command, but cant seem to boot anything up after manually creating sd card
  41. [03:11:46] <mic4ael> I dont want to be rude, but why are you in #pandaboard channel lol
  42. [03:12:03] <mic4ael> no ofence guys
  43. [03:12:14] <netman87> why not? its interesting project. also im gonna get pandaboard.
  44. [03:12:25] <netman87> i know something about linux so i may also be able to help someones
  45. [03:13:10] <mic4ael> i got mine after 3 weeks waiting, plus they charged me 33 pound for custom duties
  46. [03:13:31] <prpplague> mic4ael: try using the validation image first
  47. [03:13:34] <netman87> i havent ordered yet. had no money
  48. [03:13:47] <prpplague> mic4ael: 99% of the boot issues are do to incorrect creation of the sd card
  49. [03:14:27] <mic4ael> by saying validation image do you mean minimal fs?
  50. [03:14:37] <prpplague> yes
  51. [03:17:28] <mic4ael> I'll try it now. however Im worried about revision of the board. all environments are for Rev 1 I had no luck with, only ubuntu was for R2 and it work fab!
  52. [03:18:32] <prpplague> mic4ael: all of the A boards are the exact same pcb, only difference is the silicon version of the OMAP4430
  53. [03:30:35] * botao_sun (~botao_sun@linaro/botao-sun) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  54. [03:39:13] <calculus> and the wireless module is slightly different
  55. [03:41:56] <mic4ael> validation fs doesnt boot either. status LEDs 1 and 2 flash randomly few times, then go off. no serial or video output :(
  56. [03:42:08] <mic4ael> there must be something i do wrong :)
  57. [03:42:45] <mic4ael> at 4:42 in the morning it's still fun lol
  58. [03:42:51] <prpplague> mic4ael: if you are using the validation image
  59. [03:42:58] <prpplague> mic4ael: and the leds go off
  60. [03:43:13] <prpplague> mic4ael: that means that the bootloader has been started
  61. [03:43:27] <prpplague> mic4ael: which means more than likely you have an issue with your serial cable
  62. [03:47:17] <mic4ael> serial config and connection seams fine, it did show me some info with other envioronments before,
  63. [03:48:44] <mic4ael> i just pluged the power, screen went blue and turned off again, strange random behaviour
  64. [03:49:41] <calculus> strange random behavior can also be attributed to a power supply not providing enough power
  65. [03:50:44] <mic4ael> maybe that explains it
  66. [03:51:38] <mic4ael> ubuntu works well on usb OTG, however I also got a usb - 5v adapter, which is still 500ma
  67. [03:52:12] * robclark (~robclark@ppp-70-129-136-59.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  68. [03:54:13] <prpplague> mic4ael: you stated earlier that were not able to boot anything
  69. [03:55:55] <mic4ael> i couldnt boot anything if I created sd manualy in linux invironment
  70. [03:56:31] <prpplague> mic4ael: ok so the prebuilt ubuntu boots properly and you see output on the uart?
  71. [03:57:26] <mic4ael> i do, but again it's very random
  72. [03:57:44] <prpplague> mic4ael: and how are you powering the board?
  73. [03:58:33] <mic4ael> YOU NOT GOING TO BELIVE, after 5 minutes being plugged in to power and having both LEDs off, I got validation fs . haa
  74. [03:58:53] <prpplague> mic4ael: you are powering the board via the OTG port
  75. [03:58:56] <prpplague> mic4ael: correct?
  76. [03:59:06] * nit0912 (75c94544@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.201.69.68) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  77. [03:59:15] <mic4ael> ubuntu went well with OTG
  78. [03:59:32] <prpplague> mic4ael: you are powering the board via the OTG port, correct?
  79. [03:59:37] <mic4ael> now i have validation fs up and runing on OTG too
  80. [03:59:41] <mic4ael> yes
  81. [04:00:21] <prpplague> mic4ael: when powering the board from OTG, the OMAP4430 expects to boot from the OTG, after timing out, it will then try to boot from the sd card
  82. [04:00:38] <prpplague> mic4ael: that timeout value can be as much as 5 minutes
  83. [04:01:32] <mic4ael> right, then there's another way to boot it, anyone attempted to boot from OTG?
  84. [04:02:36] <prpplague> mic4ael: there are about 10 different ways to boot the omap4430, - http://pandaboard.org/content/usb-downloader-and-usb-second-stage-bootloader-omap4
  85. [04:03:27] <mic4ael> brilliant, how's the speed?
  86. [04:03:40] <prpplague> the speed of what?
  87. [04:05:00] <mic4ael> ther's must be some speed advantages over booting from sd
  88. [04:05:31] <prpplague> mic4ael: pretty much the same, the advantage is you don't have to reprogram the sd card for testing
  89. [04:06:10] <calculus> the advantage of boot over sd is you do not need a second computer
  90. [04:08:05] <prpplague> calculus: what's cookin this evening?
  91. [04:08:06] <mic4ael> well, yes, true. what about booting from usb?
  92. [04:08:35] <prpplague> mic4ael: the advantage when booting from usb is you don't have to reprogram the sd card for testing
  93. [04:08:44] <calculus> prpplague: not much, trying to get some accounts set up on vms
  94. [04:08:56] <mic4ael> i mean usb memory
  95. [04:08:59] <prpplague> calculus: you get affected by the power outage?
  96. [04:09:07] <prpplague> mic4ael: usb memory?
  97. [04:09:35] <calculus> prpplague: nope, not here
  98. [04:09:37] <mic4ael> does omap4 support boot from usb sticks
  99. [04:09:56] <prpplague> mic4ael: yes, omap4430 does, however the pandaboard does not
  100. [04:10:40] <calculus> mic4ael: you would need the boot loader (uboot) + kernel on sd and then the rootfs on usb stick/drive
  101. [04:10:52] <netman87> it needs magic tricks? boot loader on sd to boot from usb cd-rom? http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/magictrick.gif
  102. [04:11:34] <prpplague> netman87: indeed
  103. [04:12:41] <netman87> hmm, i should already order one or two pandaboard but... im just too poor... maybe next week i get job
  104. [04:12:51] <netman87> oh this week i mean... its already monday
  105. [04:14:14] <mic4ael> the magic trick nearly killed poor boy lol
  106. [04:15:38] <calculus> prpplague: are the fires anywhere near you?
  107. [04:16:55] <prpplague> calculus: to the west, to the south, and to the east, but nothing that is headed our direction
  108. [04:17:50] <mic4ael> another silly question, how do i get terminal in validation fs?
  109. [04:18:25] <prpplague> mic4ael: should be able to just press enter on your serial terminal
  110. [04:18:56] <mic4ael> there's definitely something wrong with my serial connection (
  111. [04:19:21] <prpplague> mic4ael: can you pastebin your bootlog?
  112. [04:19:22] <mic4ael> no output any longer
  113. [04:19:41] <prpplague> mic4ael: i suspect you aren;t getting enough power from the OTG port
  114. [04:19:41] <calculus> loopback test, connect pin 2 to pin 3 and see if you can get the echo of what you type
  115. [04:19:57] <prpplague> mic4ael: you really need to get either a dual usb cable or a wall-wart with atleast 2A
  116. [04:21:08] * ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox
  117. [04:22:31] <mic4ael> ordering one on fleebay now
  118. [04:23:26] * ChanServ sets mode +o prpplague
  119. [04:23:31] * prpplague is now known as prpplague_afk
  120. [04:26:57] * Alison_Chaiken (~Alison_Ch@173-228-89-192.dsl.static.sonic.net) has joined #pandaboard
  121. [04:30:15] <mic4ael> ive just found my HTC usb charger, 5b 1amp, giving it a try
  122. [04:30:22] <mic4ael> 5v
  123. [04:31:47] <mic4ael> still the same
  124. [04:32:06] * hitlin37_ (b64723e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.71.35.228) has joined #pandaboard
  125. [04:32:47] * lanthan_ (~ze@p54B7D26C.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
  126. [04:36:06] * tomeff (~tomas@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  127. [09:20:26] * PandaLogBot (~PircBot@teddy.pandaboard.org) has joined #pandaboard
  128. [09:20:26] * Topic is 'OMAP discussion & development on PandaBoard Platform | Site: http://www.PandaBoard.org | Paste @ http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/ |Wiki: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard | IRC logs: http://www.pandaboard.org/pbirclogs/ | IRC Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ircsurvivalguide'
  129. [09:20:27] * Set by orbarron!~orb@nat/ti/x-ztoqabxrceydslsj on Mon Jun 06 15:00:29 UTC 2011
  130. [09:52:12] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) has joined #pandaboard
  131. [10:02:35] * zyga is now known as zyga-afk
  132. [10:07:23] * shastri (cb653d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.101.61.10) has joined #pandaboard
  133. [10:07:48] * shastri (cb653d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.101.61.10) Quit (Client Quit)
  134. [10:09:41] * shastri (cb653d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.101.61.10) has joined #pandaboard
  135. [10:27:41] * sumits (~sumit@192.91.66.186) has joined #pandaboard
  136. [10:27:41] * sumits (~sumit@192.91.66.186) Quit (Changing host)
  137. [10:27:41] * sumits (~sumit@linaro/sumits) has joined #pandaboard
  138. [10:29:38] * htns (~htns@175.139.210.69) has joined #pandaboard
  139. [10:55:27] * shastri (cb653d0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.101.61.10) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
  140. [10:56:52] * sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #pandaboard
  141. [10:57:36] * sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  142. [10:58:10] * ZeZu (null@c-98-227-57-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  143. [11:01:40] * pfefferz (~pfefferz@76-205-172-172.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pandaboard
  144. [11:01:49] * zyga-afk is now known as zyga
  145. [11:01:54] * pfefferz (~pfefferz@76-205-172-172.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Changing host)
  146. [11:01:54] * pfefferz (~pfefferz@linaro/pfefferz) has joined #pandaboard
  147. [11:14:47] * sraue (~stephan@6-46-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch) has joined #pandaboard
  148. [11:14:55] * sraue (~stephan@6-46-239-77-pool.cable.fcom.ch) Quit (Changing host)
  149. [11:14:55] * sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #pandaboard
  150. [11:24:33] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) has joined #pandaboard
  151. [11:26:49] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) Quit (Read error: No route to host)
  152. [11:26:56] * topfs2 (~topfs2@xbmc/staff/topfs2) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  153. [11:28:39] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) has joined #pandaboard
  154. [11:30:23] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  155. [11:44:15] * sumits (~sumit@linaro/sumits) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  156. [11:48:26] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  157. [11:51:56] * zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
  158. [11:57:09] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) has joined #pandaboard
  159. [12:07:53] * t_dot_zilla (~t_dot_zil@firewall-a.buf.ny.i-evolve.net) has joined #pandaboard
  160. [12:08:24] * tonu (~tonu@122x213x52x170.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) has joined #pandaboard
  161. [12:11:46] * kidproquo (~sam@118-93-182-224.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) has joined #pandaboard
  162. [12:14:57] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) has joined #pandaboard
  163. [12:15:38] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) Quit (Client Quit)
  164. [12:15:58] * agreen is now known as agreen-away
  165. [12:26:27] * zyga (~zyga@107.Red-79-148-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #pandaboard
  166. [12:26:27] * zyga (~zyga@107.Red-79-148-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Changing host)
  167. [12:26:27] * zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) has joined #pandaboard
  168. [12:27:19] * BlInK311 (~Ward@ool-435317d6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pandaboard
  169. [12:28:04] * sumits (~sumitsemw@linaro/sumits) has joined #pandaboard
  170. [12:37:15] * ceyusa (~vjaquez@187.192.110.221) has joined #pandaboard
  171. [12:47:11] * vstehle (~vstehle@192.91.60.10) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  172. [12:47:28] * vstehle (~vstehle@192.91.60.10) has joined #pandaboard
  173. [12:52:33] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-bdbmndfwlfjmdjcl) has joined #pandaboard
  174. [12:52:33] * ChanServ sets mode +o robclark
  175. [12:55:39] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-bdbmndfwlfjmdjcl) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  176. [12:57:39] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-fnxrtdwcchdxbiqb) has joined #pandaboard
  177. [12:57:39] * ChanServ sets mode +o robclark
  178. [13:04:31] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) has joined #pandaboard
  179. [13:14:24] * newbie1 (558d728d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.141.114.141) has joined #pandaboard
  180. [13:14:58] * BlInK311 (~Ward@ool-435317d6.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  181. [13:15:36] <newbie1> hello. where can i get more detailed power consumption statistics?
  182. [13:15:36] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) has joined #pandaboard
  183. [13:16:51] <av500> more detailed than what?
  184. [13:18:01] <newbie1> av500-> there's a record in faq, that says 4a under full load. what's in idle state? with wifi on? with gpu off?
  185. [13:19:52] <newbie1> p.s.: i'm planning to run it on battery
  186. [13:23:34] * pfefferz is now known as pfefferz-takingk
  187. [13:23:42] * pfefferz-takingk is now known as pfefferz-away
  188. [13:25:48] <phh> newbie1: i'd guess with 2A used on usb bus
  189. [13:27:08] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  190. [13:28:32] * newbie1 (558d728d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.141.114.141) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  191. [13:36:51] * jonmasters (~jcm@edison.jonmasters.org) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  192. [13:37:51] * XShocK (~XShocK@static-67-62-51-170.dsl.cavtel.net) has joined #pandaboard
  193. [13:40:43] * XShocK_ (~XShocK@static-67-62-51-170.dsl.cavtel.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  194. [13:47:43] * PeregrineFalcon (~developer@216.55.58.138) has joined #pandaboard
  195. [14:06:08] * PaulW (~PaulW@CPE001310360dac-CM001e6b0f7310.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #pandaboard
  196. [14:11:43] * ayeuu (~ayeuu@reverse-142.fdn.fr) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  197. [14:12:37] * pfefferz-away is now known as pfefferz
  198. [14:12:53] * ScriptFanix (vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  199. [14:13:11] * ScriptFanix (vincent@Hanaman.riquer.fr) has joined #pandaboard
  200. [14:13:18] * newbie1 (558d732c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.141.115.44) has joined #pandaboard
  201. [14:13:23] * ayeuu (~ayeuu@reverse-142.fdn.fr) has joined #pandaboard
  202. [14:13:29] <newbie1> can anyone tell me, why there's such a difference in power consumption between pandaboard (20w) and other omap4430-based SOMs, let's say, phyCORE-OMAP4430 (3w) from phytec?
  203. [14:19:25] <LetoThe2nd> newbie1: the panda does *not* consume 20w. he correct expression is, that a panda-based system *can* consume 20W including the usb components fed through the panda.
  204. [14:20:34] <LetoThe2nd> newbie1: a panda not feeding any usb devices draws roughly 1A loaded @5VDC, and down to ~650mA when idling. there are your approx 3W again then.
  205. [14:20:43] * hitlin37_ (b64723e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.71.35.228) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
  206. [14:21:55] * sumits (~sumitsemw@linaro/sumits) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  207. [14:22:26] * newbie1 (558d732c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.141.115.44) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  208. [14:24:29] * topfs2 (~topfs2@xbmc/staff/topfs2) has joined #pandaboard
  209. [14:32:50] * ceyusa (~vjaquez@187.192.110.221) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  210. [14:35:41] * BlInK311 (~Ward@ool-435317d6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pandaboard
  211. [14:38:47] * tomeff (~tomas@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  212. [14:48:21] * nighty^ (~nighty@TOROON12-1279662182.sdsl.bell.ca) has joined #pandaboard
  213. [14:49:10] * Alison_Chaiken (~Alison_Ch@173-228-89-192.dsl.static.sonic.net) has joined #pandaboard
  214. [14:52:14] * GPSFan (~kenm@64.92.145.112) has joined #pandaboard
  215. [14:52:14] * ChanServ sets mode +o GPSFan
  216. [14:52:36] * PaulePanter (~paul@mail.gw90.de) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
  217. [14:54:14] * PaulePanter (~paul@mail.gw90.de) has joined #pandaboard
  218. [14:59:27] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  219. [15:06:04] <robclark> prpplague, not sure if this is old news or not: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=commitdiff;h=f392cbf75615e9d8cb90ef5ffb8d4e752b7be3c7
  220. [15:06:09] <robclark> (re: usb performance)
  221. [15:11:52] * emeb (~ericb@ip72-223-85-60.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #pandaboard
  222. [15:15:31] * trem (~trem@bny93-7-88-161-33-221.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #pandaboard
  223. [15:19:58] * kapinter (~quassel@91.217.248.11) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  224. [15:23:58] * fgiff (~fgiff@linaro/fgiff) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  225. [15:24:08] * jojobest (~joffrey@192.93.161.12) has left #pandaboard
  226. [15:25:32] * skorgon (~skorgon@149.199.62.254) has joined #pandaboard
  227. [15:25:32] * skorgon (~skorgon@149.199.62.254) Quit (Changing host)
  228. [15:25:33] * skorgon (~skorgon@unaffiliated/skorgon) has joined #pandaboard
  229. [15:30:13] * ceyusa (~vjaquez@187.192.110.221) has joined #pandaboard
  230. [15:31:02] * mtoman (mtoman@nat/redhat/x-xjhdltqjvyzhduag) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  231. [15:31:27] * HeinervdmWork is now known as HeinervdmOff
  232. [15:33:48] * prpplague (~danders@nat/ti/x-jwvlosjbduvwrvie) has joined #pandaboard
  233. [15:37:36] * florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  234. [15:44:18] * ChanServ sets mode +o prpplague
  235. [15:50:06] * ZeZu (null@c-98-227-57-88.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #pandaboard
  236. [15:52:04] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  237. [15:52:19] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) has joined #pandaboard
  238. [15:53:52] * Alison_Chaiken (~Alison_Ch@173-228-89-192.dsl.static.sonic.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  239. [15:59:20] * RCFwork (~klaas@85.255.197.126) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  240. [16:12:27] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  241. [16:16:12] * felipec (felipec@nat/nokia/x-rekpkwejwqqvaxtx) has joined #pandaboard
  242. [16:19:09] * MrCurious_ (~MrCurious@67.58.47.190) has joined #pandaboard
  243. [16:19:26] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  244. [16:19:52] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  245. [16:20:14] * Alison_Chaiken (~alison_ch@157.22.42.3) has joined #pandaboard
  246. [16:24:01] <prpplague> Alison_Chaiken: greetings
  247. [16:24:36] * ssvb (~ssvb@a88-114-220-213.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #pandaboard
  248. [16:27:07] * ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox
  249. [16:29:11] * BlInK311 (~Ward@ool-435317d6.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  250. [16:29:58] <Alison_Chaiken> Greetings, prpplague. Starting new gig this morning, hope I can diffuse slowly back towards Panda.
  251. [16:30:17] <prpplague> Alison_Chaiken: dandy
  252. [16:32:32] <GPSFan> robclark, that patch is the latest in a long discussion about usb performance, dma_coherent _write_sync and the like. I tried an older version and it did indeed improve the perfprmance. I just tried that patch and it had the same effect. It seems like it will get into mainline one of these days.
  253. [16:32:58] <GPSFan> robclark, see for more about the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux-linaro/+bug/709245
  254. [16:33:45] <robclark> GPSFan, k, thx... I just noticed that patch when I rebased.. it is on agreen's tree at least
  255. [16:36:14] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  256. [16:36:15] * botao_sun (~botao_sun@linaro/botao-sun) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  257. [16:37:15] <GPSFan> robclark, my usb drive went from ~4M/s to ~13M/s (it wouldn't go any faster in my desktop either. ) so it seems to be a nice improvement.
  258. [16:38:07] <robclark> nice
  259. [16:38:57] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  260. [16:41:22] <MrCurious_> GPSfan: what did you do to get it to fo from 4M to 13M
  261. [16:42:50] <GPSFan> MrCurious, applied the patch from here: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=commitdiff;h=f392cbf75615e9d8cb90ef5ffb8d4e752b7be3c7
  262. [16:43:57] <MrCurious_> TY
  263. [16:44:26] <MrCurious_> kernel patch right?
  264. [16:44:44] <GPSFan> MrCurious_, that was to 3.1-rc4 btw. it applies with a bit of an offset.
  265. [16:44:50] <prpplague> GPSFan: btw, i have some hdmi patches for you to test against 3.1
  266. [16:44:58] <GPSFan> prpplague, sure...
  267. [16:45:00] <MrCurious_> i think i will have to try applying this tonight :D
  268. [16:45:02] <prpplague> GPSFan: i'll try to get them to you in the next few days
  269. [16:45:12] <MrCurious_> then see if my SSD can top 7M/s
  270. [16:45:22] <GPSFan> prpplague, np, e-mail or pastebin both ok
  271. [16:46:05] <prpplague> GPSFan: i need to clone a copy of 3.1-rc4 since git.kernel.org is still down
  272. [16:47:22] <GPSFan> MrCurious_, I found the original reference here: http://www.trimslice.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=218&p=1240&hilit=hdparm#p1240 wrt SSD (on usb) improvements, so you might have some good luck.
  273. [16:47:53] <MrCurious_> sweet!
  274. [16:47:55] <MrCurious_> thanks
  275. [16:48:19] <GPSFan> MrCurious_, please let us know how it works.
  276. [16:49:30] <MrCurious_> me being quiet about something... that will happen...
  277. [16:49:42] * prpplague grumbles at having too much to do
  278. [16:49:49] <prpplague> MrCurious_: hehe
  279. [16:50:23] <MrCurious_> timing is perfect, just as i grumble about power consumption of atom box, the arm solution gets unblocked!
  280. [16:50:36] <GPSFan> I was hesitant to put anything on the wiki due to the large amount of discussiion going on about the dma_coherent_write_sync, then kernel.org went TU and I missed the discussion on launchpad till now.
  281. [16:50:51] <MrCurious_> wonder if it speeds SD access?
  282. [16:51:02] <_av500_> sd is not on usb
  283. [16:51:14] <prpplague> MrCurious_: my tests indicated there was no correlation with sd performance
  284. [16:51:16] <MrCurious_> not EHCI?
  285. [16:51:28] <_av500_> no
  286. [16:51:30] <MrCurious_> so the SD speed is another issue
  287. [16:51:32] <_av500_> SD/MMC
  288. [16:51:43] <MrCurious_> (if an issue at all)
  289. [16:52:03] <GPSFan> put your SD card in a reader and plug it into the USB and it's performance will improve ;>))
  290. [16:52:50] <MrCurious_> hmmm
  291. [16:53:03] <_av500_> or just stop assuming the panda is a high performance server :)
  292. [16:53:08] * MrCurious_ remembers a usb CF reader with a 4g spinning disk CF
  293. [16:53:25] <MrCurious_> but i WANT it to be a high performance server equivalent to 32 blades
  294. [16:53:31] <MrCurious_> all in under 5W
  295. [16:53:45] <_av500_> sure
  296. [16:54:02] <_av500_> run it downhill
  297. [16:54:07] <MrCurious_> lol
  298. [16:54:09] <_av500_> its faster then
  299. [16:54:22] <MrCurious_> i think its performance running a desktop lulls one into expecting much more from it...
  300. [16:54:45] <_av500_> i wonder what you mean
  301. [16:54:53] <_av500_> it blinks the cursor fast?
  302. [16:56:39] <prpplague> GPSFan: you testing -rc5?
  303. [16:57:17] <MrCurious_> the GUI desktop is quite responsive
  304. [16:57:37] <_av500_> on mine it takes ages to load eclipse
  305. [16:59:10] <GPSFan> prpplague, haven't had the time, there were not any panda or omap4 related changes from -rc4 so I was going to wait till kernel.org came back to life. but if it doesn't soon I'll have to teach my little pea brain a bit more about git to use Linus's github repo.
  306. [16:59:37] <prpplague> GPSFan: ahh ok
  307. [16:59:54] <prpplague> GPSFan: i was planning to retest these patches against 3.1-rc5
  308. [16:59:58] * trem (~trem@bny93-7-88-161-33-221.fbx.proxad.net) has left #pandaboard
  309. [17:01:16] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  310. [17:01:35] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) has joined #pandaboard
  311. [17:05:13] <sjhill> prpplague: so how does one do a 'repo sync' at this point?
  312. [17:06:09] <prpplague> sjhill: you can add the github mirror as a remote, do a fetch
  313. [17:06:18] <prpplague> sjhill: then you can just do a checkout
  314. [17:06:56] <sjhill> prpplague: but that's just for the kernel, not the android pieces?
  315. [17:07:12] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  316. [17:07:35] <prpplague> sjhill: sorry i not sure what android pieces you are refering to
  317. [17:07:53] <sjhill> frameworks, device, sdk, etc.
  318. [17:08:02] <sjhill> the afs
  319. [17:08:19] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  320. [17:08:36] <prpplague> sjhill: all of that should be coming from the repo's for your build, i.e. if you are using the TI releases, that will come from git.omapzoom
  321. [17:09:10] <prpplague> sjhill: is there something failing in the build?
  322. [17:09:31] <sjhill> no that's fine
  323. [17:09:34] <sjhill> the kernel is the issue
  324. [17:09:44] <sjhill> i think i found the problem
  325. [17:16:28] * Vasco_O is now known as Vasco
  326. [17:20:15] * Gareth (~gareth@www.wiked.org) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  327. [17:23:31] * tomeff2 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  328. [17:23:31] * tomeff1 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  329. [17:27:22] * BlInK311 (~Ward@ool-435317d6.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pandaboard
  330. [17:28:29] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-fnxrtdwcchdxbiqb) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  331. [17:31:03] * Gareth (~gareth@www.wiked.org) has joined #pandaboard
  332. [17:34:30] * Heinervdm (~thomas@pD9E1327D.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #pandaboard
  333. [17:34:46] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-lytnrvlcpbrwfbxk) has joined #pandaboard
  334. [17:34:51] * ChanServ sets mode +o robclark
  335. [17:37:59] * topfs2 (~topfs2@xbmc/staff/topfs2) Quit (Ping timeout: 253 seconds)
  336. [17:39:58] * felipec (felipec@nat/nokia/x-rekpkwejwqqvaxtx) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  337. [17:41:30] <prpplague> GPSFan: think i should generate an update "fix" patch against 3.0 ?
  338. [17:44:20] * rcf (~rcf@100.200-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #pandaboard
  339. [17:46:34] * orbarron (~a0271968@nat/ti/x-xtxnqhtfpedisdcs) has joined #pandaboard
  340. [17:46:34] * ChanServ sets mode +o orbarron
  341. [17:59:01] * orbarron (~a0271968@nat/ti/x-xtxnqhtfpedisdcs) has left #pandaboard
  342. [18:12:25] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  343. [18:12:35] * XorA (~XorA@adsl-76-192-204-252.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pandaboard
  344. [18:13:47] <prpplague> XorA: hey hey
  345. [18:13:57] <XorA> hey prpplague
  346. [18:14:01] <XorA> hows it going?
  347. [18:14:32] <prpplague> XorA: like a car with 2 flat tires and a broken axle
  348. [18:15:22] <XorA> oh dear
  349. [18:15:39] <XorA> I had a fun drive up a mountain yesterday
  350. [18:15:44] <XorA> North of San Fran
  351. [18:15:57] <prpplague> XorA: oh? you are in the states?
  352. [18:16:31] <XorA> aye, Cupertino
  353. [18:16:37] <prpplague> XorA: fun fun
  354. [18:16:53] <XorA> Cupertino is not so fun, was glad to escape yeserday :-D
  355. [18:17:09] <prpplague> hehe
  356. [18:17:25] <XorA> need excuse to come to Dallas and you feed my BBQ :-D
  357. [18:17:52] <prpplague> XorA: hehe
  358. [18:17:54] <prpplague> indeed
  359. [18:18:24] <prpplague> XorA: or barbados, and let me set you up with one of my wife's 10^342342545678 cousins
  360. [18:18:44] <XorA> my GF might kill me :-D
  361. [18:19:18] <prpplague> XorA: i think there is a 1 gf per continental area
  362. [18:19:27] <prpplague> XorA: i think there is a 1 gf per continental area rule
  363. [18:19:37] <XorA> hmmm, I like this one though
  364. [18:19:49] <XorA> maybe next year
  365. [18:19:58] <prpplague> XorA: hehe
  366. [18:25:06] <calculus> hmm... Cupertino, I am in Mountain View
  367. [18:25:26] * calculus waves to XorA
  368. [18:25:31] * XorA waves back
  369. [18:25:32] <sjhill> Sunnyvale next week for me
  370. [18:25:49] <XorA> unfortuneately been too busy to really enjoy CA
  371. [18:26:05] * calculus waves to sjhill too
  372. [18:26:26] <XorA> Steven J Hill used to live in Edinburgh???
  373. [18:27:19] <sjhill> XorA: no, that's my UK twin
  374. [18:27:24] <sjhill> i'm in the US
  375. [18:27:59] <XorA> hehe, was scared you was stalking me :-)
  376. [18:29:13] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-lytnrvlcpbrwfbxk) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  377. [18:29:29] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-hvpzhuixzpomydmo) has joined #pandaboard
  378. [18:29:29] * ChanServ sets mode +o robclark
  379. [18:30:00] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-hvpzhuixzpomydmo) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  380. [18:30:37] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-ycutztnmgwxwpyeh) has joined #pandaboard
  381. [18:30:37] * ChanServ sets mode +o robclark
  382. [18:36:11] * PaulW (~PaulW@CPE001310360dac-CM001e6b0f7310.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  383. [18:39:26] * PaulW (~PaulW@CPE001310360dac-CM001e6b0f7310.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #pandaboard
  384. [18:41:14] <ds2> it is good to have hot spares
  385. [18:45:05] <prpplague> ds2: you keep stolen spares around? did they "fall of the back of a truck" ?
  386. [18:48:05] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  387. [18:48:20] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) has joined #pandaboard
  388. [18:50:34] * Magdalena (~magdalena@nat/ti/x-jynvxfyboahpymkb) has joined #pandaboard
  389. [18:51:23] * XorA dreams of panda
  390. [18:53:41] <prpplague> XorA: you will have one soon
  391. [18:55:48] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) has joined #pandaboard
  392. [18:59:24] <ds2> but of course
  393. [19:23:02] * ssvb (~ssvb@a88-114-220-213.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  394. [19:24:23] * Sp4rKy (~Sp4rKy@freenode/sponsor/domogik.founder.sp4rky) Quit (*.net *.split)
  395. [19:24:23] * W1N9Zr0 (~W1N9Zr0@69.165.245.171) Quit (*.net *.split)
  396. [19:24:24] * cmagina (~quassel@173-166-109-13-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) Quit (*.net *.split)
  397. [19:24:24] * Ikarus (~ikarus@46-129-66-189.dynamic.upc.nl) Quit (*.net *.split)
  398. [19:24:24] * bernard_ (~bernard@mersenne.largestprime.net) Quit (*.net *.split)
  399. [19:24:24] * viridior (~viridis@173-45-235-117.slicehost.net) Quit (*.net *.split)
  400. [19:24:24] * gt3 (~geetha@nat/ti/x-pxynnhumzxeokalp) Quit (*.net *.split)
  401. [19:24:24] * sebjan (~Sebastien@192.91.60.10) Quit (*.net *.split)
  402. [19:24:24] * agreen-away (~agreen@warmcat.com) Quit (*.net *.split)
  403. [19:24:24] * armin76 (~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76) Quit (*.net *.split)
  404. [19:24:25] * guerby (~guerby@nc10d.tetaneutral.net) Quit (*.net *.split)
  405. [19:24:32] * Ikarus (~ikarus@46-129-66-189.dynamic.upc.nl) has joined #pandaboard
  406. [19:24:33] * sebjan (~Sebastien@192.91.60.10) has joined #pandaboard
  407. [19:24:36] * Sp4rKy (~Sp4rKy@freenode/sponsor/domogik.founder.sp4rky) has joined #pandaboard
  408. [19:24:44] * guerby (~guerby@2a01:6600:8081:a500::1) has joined #pandaboard
  409. [19:24:45] * armin76 (~armin@beluga.ia64.dev.gentoo.org) has joined #pandaboard
  410. [19:24:45] * cmagina (~quassel@173-166-109-13-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #pandaboard
  411. [19:24:45] * bernard_ (~bernard@mersenne.largestprime.net) has joined #pandaboard
  412. [19:24:52] * viridior (~viridis@173-45-235-117.slicehost.net) has joined #pandaboard
  413. [19:24:57] * armin76 (~armin@beluga.ia64.dev.gentoo.org) Quit (Changing host)
  414. [19:24:57] * armin76 (~armin@gentoo/developer/armin76) has joined #pandaboard
  415. [19:24:59] * W1N9Zr0 (~W1N9Zr0@69-165-245-171.cable.teksavvy.com) has joined #pandaboard
  416. [19:25:00] * ssvb (~ssvb@a88-114-220-213.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #pandaboard
  417. [19:25:00] * agreen-away (~agreen@warmcat.com) has joined #pandaboard
  418. [19:25:01] * agreen-away is now known as agreen
  419. [19:25:27] * gt3 (~geetha@nat/ti/x-tclgpewiwxtwiaki) has joined #pandaboard
  420. [19:27:23] * zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
  421. [19:31:33] * zyga (~zyga@107.Red-79-148-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #pandaboard
  422. [19:31:33] * zyga (~zyga@107.Red-79-148-76.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) Quit (Changing host)
  423. [19:31:33] * zyga (~zyga@linaro/zyga) has joined #pandaboard
  424. [19:34:32] * MohammadAG (~MohammadA@ipv6.indus.air.ai) Quit (*.net *.split)
  425. [19:36:01] * MohammadAG (~MohammadA@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG) has joined #pandaboard
  426. [20:10:32] * dl9pf_ (~quassel@p5B213C80.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  427. [20:12:40] * dl9pf (~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf) has joined #pandaboard
  428. [20:13:32] * dl9pf (~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  429. [20:13:52] * tomeff2 (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  430. [20:14:41] * tomeff (~tomas@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  431. [20:15:23] * dl9pf (~quassel@opensuse/member/dl9pf) has joined #pandaboard
  432. [20:15:35] * prpplague (~danders@nat/ti/x-jwvlosjbduvwrvie) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  433. [20:16:09] * Heinervdm (~thomas@pD9E1327D.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit ()
  434. [20:16:56] * skorgon_ (~skorgon@149.199.62.254) has joined #pandaboard
  435. [20:16:56] * skorgon_ (~skorgon@149.199.62.254) Quit (Changing host)
  436. [20:16:56] * skorgon_ (~skorgon@unaffiliated/skorgon) has joined #pandaboard
  437. [20:19:04] * tomeff (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  438. [20:20:48] * skorgon (~skorgon@unaffiliated/skorgon) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  439. [20:32:12] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) has joined #pandaboard
  440. [20:53:16] * t_dot_zilla (~t_dot_zil@firewall-a.buf.ny.i-evolve.net) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204])
  441. [20:59:31] * BlInK311 (~Ward@ool-435317d6.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  442. [21:01:03] * nighty^ (~nighty@TOROON12-1279662182.sdsl.bell.ca) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  443. [21:05:43] * PeregrineFalcon (~developer@216.55.58.138) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  444. [21:11:19] * jluisn (~quassel@187.115.172.24) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  445. [21:15:41] <XShocK> where cann i access a mirror of kerel.org ?
  446. [21:15:57] <XShocK> i need to get its power management branch
  447. [21:16:02] <XShocK> kernel.org
  448. [21:18:35] * prpplague_afk is now known as prpplague
  449. [21:18:56] * bo09 (~borgan@ip68-105-60-156.pn.at.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  450. [21:19:43] * tomeff (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  451. [21:22:04] * tomeff (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #pandaboard
  452. [21:22:12] * tomeff (~Adium@ip-78-45-50-45.net.upcbroadband.cz) Quit (Client Quit)
  453. [21:32:12] * Alison_Chaiken (~alison_ch@157.22.42.3) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
  454. [21:32:36] * Alison_Chaiken (~alison_ch@157.22.42.3) has joined #pandaboard
  455. [21:33:36] * prpplague (~prpplague@ppp-70-249-146-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) Quit (Quit: Later Folks!)
  456. [21:34:24] * prpplague (~prpplague@ppp-70-249-146-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) has joined #pandaboard
  457. [21:37:12] * kth (~kth@unaffiliated/kth) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  458. [21:43:42] <XShocK> found it on gitorius.org, loving it!
  459. [21:47:07] <calculus> I would have said github, at least that is where linus moved his branch
  460. [21:48:36] * Ikarus (~ikarus@46-129-66-189.dynamic.upc.nl) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  461. [21:53:05] * Magdalena (~magdalena@nat/ti/x-jynvxfyboahpymkb) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  462. [21:53:14] * Magdalena (~magdalena@nat/ti/x-jvugokjhhfeegmfj) has joined #pandaboard
  463. [21:57:05] * Vasco is now known as Vasco_O
  464. [22:07:24] * skorgon (~skorgon@149.199.62.254) has joined #pandaboard
  465. [22:07:24] * skorgon (~skorgon@149.199.62.254) Quit (Changing host)
  466. [22:07:24] * skorgon (~skorgon@unaffiliated/skorgon) has joined #pandaboard
  467. [22:07:51] <XShocK> could not find the linux-omap-pm on github
  468. [22:08:20] <XShocK> also, i got a beagle-xm, which conf/machine/* file shoudl ibe using, beagleboard ?
  469. [22:08:58] <prpplague> XShocK: all current mainline OMAP2 and higher devices use omap2plus_defconfig
  470. [22:09:03] * Alison_Chaiken (~alison_ch@157.22.42.3) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  471. [22:11:21] <XShocK> prpplague, thx, so "MACHINE=omap2plus_defconfig ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel" is what i want?
  472. [22:11:38] * skorgon_ (~skorgon@unaffiliated/skorgon) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  473. [22:11:58] <XShocK> mmm, somthing is wrong, i dont see omap2plus_defconfig
  474. [22:12:23] <prpplague> XShocK: sorry i thought you were asking which kernel config
  475. [22:12:35] <prpplague> XShocK: i assume you are asking something about an OE build
  476. [22:12:43] <XShocK> ic, sorry for not being clear.
  477. [22:13:02] <XShocK> i just want to setup a power management kernel
  478. [22:13:13] <XShocK> build some minimal system to work with
  479. [22:13:42] <prpplague> XShocK: yea, ask over in #beagle or in the channel for the specific distro you are building
  480. [22:14:13] <XShocK> prpplague, oh, that too, sorry about that. didnt even think about switching channels
  481. [22:22:05] * Ikarus (~ikarus@46-129-66-189.dynamic.upc.nl) has joined #pandaboard
  482. [22:23:46] * nighty^ (~nighty@69-165-220-105.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #pandaboard
  483. [22:36:51] <MrCurious_> the makers of bitbake/openembedded should be ashamed for creating a web fetch method that is error prone, and not coding a auto-re-try
  484. [22:37:55] <prpplague> MrCurious_: normally it does handle it
  485. [22:38:04] <prpplague> MrCurious_: you can select a wide range of mirrors
  486. [22:38:10] <prpplague> MrCurious: and alternate methods
  487. [22:38:33] <MrCurious_> but why does it not auto-re-try
  488. [22:38:49] <MrCurious_> i have been whacking at this off and on for months trying to get just one working build
  489. [22:39:30] <MrCurious_> i dont get how so much can be based on it, and yet it is so flimsey
  490. [22:40:45] <MrCurious_> i mean, to be more succinct, its like they re-implemented wget, only with out error correction
  491. [22:41:26] <prpplague> MrCurious_: well generally it is extremely robust once you have everything configured properly for your environmnet
  492. [22:41:45] <prpplague> MrCurious_: however the learning curve and the distro setup for OE can be huge
  493. [22:42:39] <MrCurious_> yeah
  494. [22:43:14] <MrCurious_> i think 1 programmer week spent by someone documenting it, or automating the recovery/configuration could be HUGE
  495. [22:44:19] <prpplague> hehe
  496. [22:44:21] <prpplague> indeed
  497. [22:44:51] <prpplague> MrCurious_: i myself have been a long time critic of OE, but there have been some slow but consistent changes to the mindset
  498. [22:44:59] <prpplague> MrCurious_: OE-Core is a giant step
  499. [22:45:23] <MrCurious_> is there a trick to it ? like re-run it till it works?
  500. [22:47:09] <prpplague> MrCurious_: all depends on your specific issue
  501. [22:47:25] <prpplague> MrCurious_: what distro are you building?
  502. [22:49:07] * jonmasters (~jcm@edison.jonmasters.org) has joined #pandaboard
  503. [22:49:17] <prpplague> jonmasters: hey hey
  504. [22:49:57] <MrCurious_> have tried chumby builds and gumstix builds
  505. [22:50:03] <MrCurious_> none have completed yet
  506. [22:50:10] <MrCurious_> but getting closer :D
  507. [22:50:21] <prpplague> those are machine types
  508. [22:50:52] <prpplague> MrCurious_: most likely those builds aren't maintained
  509. [22:51:23] <MrCurious_> the gumstix one seems to be built by many of late according to the lists
  510. [22:51:27] <XShocK> sorry for a noob question. after doing a bitbake virtual/kernel, where do i get the actual kernel file? i know it is burried somewhere in the build folder, but i cant locate it
  511. [22:51:30] <MrCurious_> but the chumby one, yeah
  512. [22:51:39] <MrCurious_> enough about my problem...
  513. [22:54:35] <XShocK> nvm, found it
  514. [22:54:39] <XorA> hmm, hate to point this out but OE just uses curl/wget so any errors are not in OE
  515. [22:55:55] <MrCurious_> just heard that. it cant tell a 404 page from a success
  516. [22:56:12] <XorA> 404 pages are evil and should die
  517. [22:56:25] <XorA> totally break how the web works
  518. [22:57:27] <MrCurious_> yeah
  519. [22:58:12] <prpplague> 99% of dev works is with a busybox rootfs that is less thant 64MB
  520. [22:59:38] <prpplague> oops there was suppose to be a "my" in there somewhere
  521. [23:00:37] <MrCurious_> wish i knew an easy way to un-busybox a machine
  522. [23:02:31] <jonmasters> prpplague: hey dude. My IRC dropped earlier...just reconnecting :)
  523. [23:02:56] <prpplague> jonmasters: the cases for flyswatter2 are in
  524. [23:03:05] <prpplague> MrCurious_: un-busybox?
  525. [23:03:49] <MrCurious_> yeah. i don't carefor busybox
  526. [23:03:52] <jonmasters> prpplague: cool...yea, I heard that. Awesome.
  527. [23:04:03] <prpplague> jonmasters: lime green
  528. [23:04:12] <MrCurious_> i find it tries to do everything, but does nothing as good as the origional, and as such leads to hours of frustration
  529. [23:04:27] <prpplague> MrCurious_: interesting
  530. [23:04:33] <MrCurious_> if your mommy can afford a bigger SD card, it should be avoided at all costs
  531. [23:05:29] <prpplague> MrCurious_: interesting
  532. [23:06:24] <MrCurious_> thats just my opinion, i may be wrong.
  533. [23:06:42] <prpplague> MrCurious_: they are just tools, you have to use the right tool for the right job
  534. [23:07:25] <MrCurious_> right. but when i reach for a tool, i want to get the tool i reach for, not a plastic one painted to look like a real one
  535. [23:07:35] <prpplague> hehe
  536. [23:08:00] <prpplague> MrCurious_: and mine is when i need a spoon, i don't want to use a backhoe
  537. [23:08:58] <prpplague> jonmasters: oh and btw, we are going to carry short idc db9 serial cables as well
  538. [23:09:07] <prpplague> jonmasters: no more using that adapter you have
  539. [23:09:25] <MrCurious_> example. trying to build software that wants lex/yacc. when busybox tries to makebelieve its these, it fails for me
  540. [23:09:59] <prpplague> MrCurious_: you mean building something natively ?
  541. [23:10:40] <MrCurious_> yes
  542. [23:11:07] <prpplague> MrCurious: in 15 years of working on ARM devices, i have never done a native ARM compile
  543. [23:12:13] <MrCurious_> pandaboard can actually build things pretty fast :D
  544. [23:12:33] <prpplague> MrCurious: not faster than my quad
  545. [23:12:33] <MrCurious_> it might be faster to build native than to build remote, and copy
  546. [23:13:20] <prpplague> MrCurious: granted there are reasons to do natively compile, just none that i have to deal with
  547. [23:14:10] <prpplague> MrCurious_: generally my goal is to make the rootfs as small as possible, which including a compiler isn't really something you need to have
  548. [23:14:23] <prpplague> MrCurious_: just different goals
  549. [23:14:44] <prpplague> MrCurious_: but like i said, you should try using the ubuntu build system, or maybe some of the angstrom stuff
  550. [23:15:03] <jonmasters> prpplague: one day, you'll have faster ARM hardware than you can shake a stick at ;)
  551. [23:15:03] <prpplague> MrCurious_: both can create full featured root filesystems
  552. [23:15:18] <prpplague> jonmasters: hehe indeed
  553. [23:16:08] <prpplague> jonmasters: hopefully not too far down the line
  554. [23:17:57] <prpplague> jonmasters: we'll be carrying a cable similar to this one - http://www.sealevel.com/store/ca334-db9-male-to-db9-female-rs-232-touch-screen-cable-11-in-length.html
  555. [23:23:50] <prpplague> jonmasters: i see karim is doing a full android tutorial at ELC-E
  556. [23:24:14] <jonmasters> yea, he's all about Android these days
  557. [23:26:18] * XorA (~XorA@adsl-76-192-204-252.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  558. [23:26:41] * XorA (~XorA@adsl-76-192-204-252.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pandaboard
  559. [23:27:58] <prpplague> jonmasters: i considered signing up for the class, but i will have my hands full there as well
  560. [23:28:36] <prpplague> jonmasters: we will be giving away the beacon boards after the first keynote speech there at ELC-E
  561. [23:36:56] <prpplague> jonmasters: sorry i can't recall if i asked already, are planning to attend ELC-E?
  562. [23:37:12] * Magdalena (~magdalena@nat/ti/x-jvugokjhhfeegmfj) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  563. [23:42:10] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-ycutztnmgwxwpyeh) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  564. [23:42:57] <jonmasters> prpplague: I can't...got too much travel committed already :)
  565. [23:43:06] <prpplague> jonmasters: ahh right
  566. [23:43:40] <prpplague> jonmasters: i'll get a flyswatter2 case, serial cable, and beacon board out to you soon
  567. [23:49:09] <brandini> evening
  568. [23:50:22] <prpplague> brandini: greetings
  569. [23:50:52] <XorA> flyswatter rocks
  570. [23:50:55] * XorA loves his
  571. [23:55:53] <prpplague> XorA: hehe, you should try the flyswatter2
  572. [23:56:03] <prpplague> XorA: 10 times faster
  573. [23:56:49] <XorA> prpplague: bah, you ran away with that in the bar remember :-D
  574. [23:57:15] <prpplague> XorA: hehe, naw that was the zippy2
  575. [23:57:39] <XorA> heh, all I saw were flaming footprints :-D
  576. [23:58:23] <prpplague> hehe
  577. [23:58:29] <XorA> I sent my friends to Barcadia when they visited Dallas recently
  578. [23:58:43] <XorA> havent seen them to ask what they thought
  579. [23:58:47] <prpplague> XorA: hehe cool
  580. [23:59:04] <prpplague> XorA: i haven't been back there myself
  581. [23:59:15] <prpplague> XorA: thats almost a 2 hour drive for me
  582. [23:59:18] <XorA> your bared for "the incident" :-D
  583. [23:59:31] <prpplague> uh
  584. [23:59:37] * XorA is kidding of course
  585. [23:59:44] * prpplague wonders what "incident".........
  586. [23:59:44] <XorA> there were no injuries from Jenga collapse
  587. [23:59:58] <prpplague> XorA: hehe

These logs were automatically created by PandaLgBt on irc.freenode.net using the Java IRC LogBot.

See http://microformats.org/wiki/mflogbot for more information.