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IRC Log for 2011-07-06

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  4. [00:44:42] <prpplague> robclark: you get that x-loader and u-boot working?
  5. [00:48:54] <prpplague> wmat: ping
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  8. [01:06:22] <Guspaz> I'm trying to get composite video out working on the PandaBoard, but I'm having trouble finding information on what I need to do to enable this. I've got Ubuntu 11.04 on the thing, outputting via HDMI, and I've put an RCA cable through the j12 pins. What else do I need to do? Some bootargs? Some drivers?
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  11. [01:11:52] <prpplague> Guspaz: you'd need to change the overlay manager, you can only run the composite out when you turn off the hdmi
  12. [01:12:05] <prpplague> Guspaz: there a specific reason you want to use composite?
  13. [01:13:08] <mru> maybe he likes the grainy picture
  14. [01:13:15] <prpplague> indeed
  15. [01:13:35] <prpplague> future versions of the panda won't have composite out available
  16. [01:14:47] <Guspaz> prpplague: I'd like to use the pandaboard in a nespc, and composite is more... authentic.
  17. [01:15:00] <prpplague> nespc?
  18. [01:15:11] <Guspaz> NES: Nintendo Entertainment System.
  19. [01:15:30] <prpplague> ahh
  20. [01:15:48] <prpplague> Guspaz: well don't count on any major support for it
  21. [01:15:55] <mru> so not a PC extract you add to water and pretend it's the real thing?
  22. [01:16:09] <Guspaz> No, not a nestea product ;)
  23. [01:16:17] <Guspaz> prpplague: On getting composite video working, you mean?
  24. [01:16:26] <prpplague> Guspaz: yea
  25. [01:16:52] <Guspaz> Future versions lacking composite video are not a huge deal, since I don't have future versions. I realize this is more of a dev board than a prototyping board, but I figured the difference wouldn't be a huge deal.
  26. [01:16:56] <prpplague> Guspaz: it works but there isn't any major support for it, i'm probably the only person that has gotten it working, and that was only to validate it
  27. [01:17:36] <prpplague> Guspaz: i'd look for some other method
  28. [01:17:49] <prpplague> Guspaz: a good lvds panel would be a much better choice
  29. [01:18:14] <Guspaz> Oh, I have panels, but I'm connecting to a television from an NES chassis, you see.
  30. [01:18:36] <Guspaz> The alternative might be an HDMI to composite adapter, but that means a rather bulky piece of hardware inside of a rather limited size case.
  31. [01:18:48] <prpplague> i guess i don't understand
  32. [01:18:52] * prpplague googles nespc
  33. [01:19:27] <Guspaz> I am taking a classic Nintendo video game console chassis and putting a pandaboard inside it with the goal of driving the traditional outputs of a nintendo from the pandaboard.
  34. [01:19:59] <Guspaz> That would be RCA audio (simple), NES controller ports (USB adapter internally, not that hard), and composite video.
  35. [01:20:29] <prpplague> ahh you are using the original case and putting the panda inside
  36. [01:20:31] <robclark> hmm, you could always use an HDMI TV, and use opengles to apply some sort of fuzzy retro shader effect to make it look like an old-school tv ;-)
  37. [01:20:54] <mru> you could make it look *even worse* than the original
  38. [01:21:13] <robclark> hey now, let's not be too ambitious ;-)
  39. [01:21:29] <prpplague> robclark: you test those binaries?
  40. [01:21:37] <Guspaz> robclark: Sure, but I'm not terribly familiar with OpenGL or OpenGL ES, and my attempts to port FCEUX (nintendo emulator)'s OpenGL plugin to OpenGL ES didn't go so well.
  41. [01:21:44] <prpplague> Guspaz: let me see if i have to code at the office tomorrow
  42. [01:22:04] <robclark> prpplague, not yet.. still debugging some other project..
  43. [01:22:06] <Guspaz> Also, CRT televisions tend not to have HDMI input ;)
  44. [01:22:33] <Guspaz> prpplague: Ah, so this is not the sort of thing that can be done with the stock panda Ubuntu distro without recompiling the kernel?
  45. [01:22:39] <prpplague> Guspaz: but why do you still want to use a crt?
  46. [01:22:41] <mru> it's a long time since I saw a crt
  47. [01:22:46] <prpplague> Guspaz: uh no
  48. [01:23:49] <prpplague> Guspaz: like i said, i can't think of anyone that has been using the composite signal instead of hdmi or dvi
  49. [01:24:06] <robclark> well, I'm not sure display driver get's much attention for composite out.. I'm not aware of anyone using it
  50. [01:24:09] <Guspaz> Why a CRT? Well, it's not really the ultimate goal, but the goal is to produce something that could be used in the same place an original NES could be. Original controllers, older television, that sort of thing. I probably won't use it on a CRT for typical usage, but it'd be nice to have.
  51. [01:24:22] <mru> why not use an original nes?
  52. [01:24:39] <prpplague> mru: that was going to be my question
  53. [01:24:44] <robclark> my original nes isn't so much working these days..
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  55. [01:25:24] <Guspaz> Because an NES can *only* do that, while more versatile hardware might also support other systems (such as a SNES, for example, the controllers are compatible although the pinouts are slightly different), as well as other neat tricks.
  56. [01:25:37] <robclark> that said, I think I am the last one I know who still has tv w/ analog input
  57. [01:25:44] <Guspaz> I was going to cram a VIA board in there, but... yikes. VIA.
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  59. [01:28:18] <prpplague> Guspaz: well, you'd probably get more for your money doing a dac on the LCD port to composite video
  60. [01:29:44] <prpplague> Guspaz: i'll check my notes tomorrow
  61. [01:30:03] <Guspaz> A bit beyond my skillset, I'm afraid. I'm a software developer more than a hardware person. If you have the kernel patch handy and could pass it to me next time I drop by, I'd be much obliged, but if not, it's not the end of the world. I could live without composite video, although I'd much rather have it. Thanks for the help though :)
  62. [01:30:08] <ds2> for extra credit, do it with color support
  63. [01:31:24] <prpplague> ds2: chrontel par is pretty easy to use
  64. [01:32:49] <ds2> Oh that
  65. [01:32:58] <ds2> thought you were going to suggest an R2R laddy
  66. [01:33:40] <prpplague> ds2: i'm too lazy for that
  67. [01:34:01] <prpplague> ds2: i did test that sd->vga hack a couple weekends back
  68. [01:34:15] <ds2> sd->vga?
  69. [01:34:21] <ds2> is this the FPGA thingie?
  70. [01:35:00] <prpplague> http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/ubb/vga/web/
  71. [01:35:19] <prpplague> works pretty well on panda
  72. [01:37:06] <ds2> heh... you did write a driver for a framebuffer, right? :D
  73. [01:37:40] <prpplague> not a full one
  74. [01:37:48] <prpplague> only enough for me to run some pattern tests
  75. [01:39:48] <Guspaz> Yikes, DVI or HDMI to composite adapters are pretty crazy expensive. I guess if native composite support doesn't work out, I'll have to dremel out an HDMI-shaped hole in the back of the NES case :P
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  77. [01:41:01] <prpplague> Guspaz: probably could fit a mini hdmi in that hole
  78. [01:41:06] * prpplague checks measurements
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  80. [01:42:10] <Guspaz> Hmm, let me measure the hole on the NES; it's bigger than it needs to be.
  81. [01:43:12] <prpplague> yea, the mini is 10.42mm, but it looks like the standard opening for a rca is about 12mm
  82. [01:43:25] <Guspaz> It's got a rounded bottom (like a U), but it's about 14mm by 12mm, I think
  83. [01:43:52] <Guspaz> Square on the top, though
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  85. [01:44:25] <prpplague> Guspaz: hehe yea a mini probably would do, but you'd probably have a hell of a time soldering it, hehe
  86. [01:44:26] <Guspaz> If I only consider the bits before the plastic curves, it'd be equivalent to a square of 12mm by 8mm
  87. [01:44:57] <Guspaz> Yeah, at that point, hot glueing a premade adapter to the hole might be a tad easier :P
  88. [01:45:20] <Guspaz> My experience with soldering goes about as far as "I've held stuff for people doing it", sadly.
  89. [01:45:55] <Guspaz> "Don't breath this smoke, that would be bad."
  90. [01:46:16] <mru> mmmm, lovely fumes
  91. [01:46:52] <mru> molten lead and burning flux, what better combination could there be?
  92. [01:47:47] <Guspaz> Funny, it's about half as cheap to buy a HDMI -> component and a component -> composite adapter as it is to buy an HDMI to composite adapter.
  93. [01:48:12] <mru> half as cheap == twice as expensive?
  94. [01:49:13] <Guspaz> I mean, I can see HDMI to component adapters for ~$40 and component to composite adapters for ~$30, but a single adapter seems to typically go for $300, with a small few at $150ish
  95. [01:49:33] <Guspaz> Of course, the $300 adapters are all professional video gear from AJA or the like.
  96. [01:50:07] <Guspaz> And their HD-SDI to HDMI adapters are also similarly expensive.
  97. [01:50:14] <Guspaz> Well, similarly but higher.
  98. [01:53:00] <ds2> wonder if you could use the M3 inside to bitbang out composite on a GPIO
  99. [01:53:41] <Guspaz> Monochrome, probably. Getting the colourburst, not so sure.
  100. [01:57:45] <mru> composite has colour?
  101. [01:58:41] <Guspaz> Yeah.
  102. [01:59:04] <mru> it would look better if it didn't
  103. [01:59:18] <Guspaz> I mean, it's what we used to connect VCRs to TVs if we didn't want to use RF over coax :P
  104. [01:59:30] <mru> not in europe
  105. [02:00:15] <Guspaz> Composite does PAL just fine, I had assumed it had also been common in europe.
  106. [02:00:20] <Guspaz> What did you use pre-component?
  107. [02:02:23] <mru> we had component much longer than you
  108. [02:02:43] <mru> google scart
  109. [02:02:44] <Guspaz> And before then?
  110. [02:02:54] <mru> horrible connector but "good" picture
  111. [02:03:35] <mru> also, a good PAL RF modulator does better than composite
  112. [02:03:50] <Guspaz> scart carries composite video, among other things :P
  113. [02:04:01] <mru> scart carries component too
  114. [02:04:11] <mru> and that's what's used normally
  115. [02:08:30] <ds2> they have done it on the PIC16xxx's
  116. [02:08:45] <Guspaz> Ah, B&H has an HDMI to composite adapter for $77. Still more than I'd like to spend, but an option at least. OpenGL ES bilinear interpolated scaling over mini HDMI might not be authentic, but a mini HDMI adapter costs a bit under $3 ;)
  117. [02:09:08] <Guspaz> Thanks for the idea on that, prpplague, it hadn't actually occurred to me.
  118. [02:11:36] <Guspaz> Actually, while I'm on that subject, I've not been able to get audio working over HDMI, only the 3.5mm jack. It didn't work with the prebuilt Ubuntu images out of the box, and fiddling hasn't gotten me anywhere. Is that a known bug, or should I use the validation environment to make sure it's not a hardware issue?
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  120. [02:12:43] <Guspaz> Didn't work with pandroid either, come to think of it. Perhaps my TV doesn't like the panda's audio output.
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  124. [02:31:25] <Guspaz> .join #fceux
  125. [02:31:29] <Guspaz> errm, wups, sorry.
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  128. [02:56:04] <prpplague> wmat: ping
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  132. [02:58:59] <wmat> prpplague: pong
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  149. [04:56:41] <MrCurious> anyone here any good with boot environment variables, like on gumstix?
  150. [04:58:17] <ds2> ice on boots is extremely variable depending on the climate!
  151. [05:00:11] <alex4nder> MrCurious: who what where?
  152. [05:00:41] <MrCurious> i messed up my gumstix boot args specifically where it clues it to its memory size, making only 200meg of 512 visible
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  164. [05:40:06] <MrCurious> mmcargs=setenv bootargs mem=93M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000 mem=256M@0x90000000 console=$ {console} vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 omapfb.debug=y omapdss.def_disp=dvi root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait
  165. [05:40:06] <MrCurious> 0x85d00000 - 0x862fffff
  166. [05:40:06] <MrCurious> setenv bootargs mem=256M@0x90000000 console=$ {console} vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 omapfb.debug=y omapdss.def_disp=dvi root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait
  167. [05:40:22] <MrCurious> sorry. teach me to use irc as a cut buffer :(
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  171. [05:57:13] <rsalveti> robclark: hey, cool, just saw your ping now :-)
  172. [05:57:24] <rsalveti> was away for holiday
  173. [05:57:49] <rsalveti> robclark: did you also push the v4l2/nv12 patches to agreen?
  174. [05:58:07] <rsalveti> robclark: and did you have any progress with video playback?
  175. [05:58:17] <rsalveti> it seems that you're the only one able to make it work for natty :-)
  176. [05:58:37] <rsalveti> TI will only care for oneiric now
  177. [05:58:39] <aquadran> robclark: what ffmpeg version you use for omafbplay ? but, i used your fork from github, and got small link issues and noticed you removed needed avcore in logs. and found also you moved into avlib right ? if yes what version ?
  178. [06:15:23] <Sonicadvance1> wait, What is default VRAM set to?
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  187. [06:40:19] <aquadran> robclark: i run omafbplay with -v dce param. but still got static green overlay window. i put info into dce decode thread func, it run few times maybe 20 or something else and stop, no info in ducati logs
  188. [06:40:57] <aquadran> robclark: i guess i miss something
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  192. [06:49:28] <jnoob> hello
  193. [06:49:58] <jnoob> I am totally new to the pandaboard/any embedded system so encountering problems was a given
  194. [06:50:23] <jnoob> currently i am simply trying to get the USB keyboard and mouse to work but it does not look as though they are being powered
  195. [06:50:43] <LetoThe2nd> jnoob: you're powering the panda by a dedicated power supply?
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  197. [06:50:53] <jnoob> yes
  198. [06:51:00] <jnoob> the exact on they recommended from digikey
  199. [06:51:06] <jnoob> one*
  200. [06:51:06] <LetoThe2nd> jnoob: you're running whoch image?
  201. [06:51:45] <jnoob> Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal)
  202. [06:51:55] <LetoThe2nd> headless?
  203. [06:52:16] <jnoob> no
  204. [06:52:32] <jnoob> the netbook version
  205. [06:52:47] <LetoThe2nd> hm, then it *should* basically work.
  206. [06:53:32] <jnoob> that is what i thought too...
  207. [06:53:48] <jnoob> it shows up on my monitor just fine but no keyboard/mouse
  208. [06:54:09] <LetoThe2nd> maybe ogra_ can shed some light onto this, as our ubuntu man
  209. [06:54:15] <LetoThe2nd> ogra_: ^^^^^^^^^^
  210. [06:54:37] <jnoob> ok thank you for your help though
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  212. [06:56:06] <LetoThe2nd> np, was not much help so far.
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  214. [07:35:29] <Openfree`> is there any hardware design flow, I found the OMAP4430 chip it pretty hot!~
  215. [07:36:22] <Openfree`> s/flow/flaw/
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  219. [07:39:31] <Sonicadvance1> Openfree`, It's a CPU with no heatsink or fan
  220. [07:39:44] <Sonicadvance1> It doesn't run hot enough to scald your finger if you touch it
  221. [07:39:47] <Sonicadvance1> It's doing fine
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  225. [07:44:20] <ericb2> hello
  226. [07:46:00] <Openfree`> I add heatsink myself, but when I doing intensive compiling, it got pretty hot.
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  229. [07:49:04] <MrCurious_> i plan on adding a postage size heat sink when i can source some thermal adhesive
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  231. [07:51:12] <iceberg303> what is the appropriate -march= for the pandaboard, it doesnt like just 'arm'
  232. [07:53:38] <Sonicadvance1> armv7l isn't it?
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  236. [07:58:44] <iceberg303> no
  237. [07:58:47] <iceberg303> cc1plus: error: bad value (armv7l) for -march switch
  238. [07:59:40] <iceberg303> ok, just armv7 works
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  240. [08:12:24] <Sonicadvance1> Openfree`, Should be fine
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  252. [08:38:57] <Openfree`> Sonicadvance1, in fact it do scald my finger when touch it ...
  253. [08:39:57] <Sonicadvance1> Openfree`, mmmm
  254. [08:41:19] <Sonicadvance1> Openfree`, http://therandomlab.blogspot.com/2011/06/heatsink-performance-analysis-on.html
  255. [08:41:28] <Sonicadvance1> I mean, 76 degrees isn't too bad
  256. [08:42:08] <Openfree`> much higher than my PC's temp..
  257. [08:42:20] <Openfree`> user may complain
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  259. [08:42:29] <Sonicadvance1> Your PC also has a heatsink and fan
  260. [08:42:50] <Openfree`> Sonicadvance1, that's true ;-)
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  262. [08:43:34] <Sonicadvance1> __av500__, What's the max operating temperature of the Panda's CPU?
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  264. [08:51:18] <Openfree`> Sonicadvance1, I have problem open the URL you provided
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  268. [08:52:57] <Sonicadvance1> Openfree`, Dang, just showed some tables of panda thermal testing, was 79 degrees without heatsink and 63 with one small one
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  270. [08:57:56] <ericb2> what is the external temperature ?
  271. [09:00:19] <ericb2> nice idea to use a thermographic camera
  272. [09:00:46] * ericb2 promise to load the processors at 100% when building OOo4Kids on the Panda ^^
  273. [09:00:59] <ericb2> promises sorry
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  275. [09:03:02] <ericb2> about the maximal current, I think the most simple way to ask more is to use the USB
  276. [09:03:20] * ericb2 did some tests using the Beagleboard, and the USB bus is hungry
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  282. [09:18:37] <retzo> Hi everyone, did someone have success in mounting a usb mass storage on pandroid? My dmesg says "[sda] Attached SCSI removable disk" but that's all, there's nothing like /dev/sda or /proc/bus/usb/...
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  285. [09:20:30] * Topic is 'OMAP discussion & development on PandaBoard Platform | Site: http://www.PandaBoard.org | Paste @ http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/ |Wiki: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard | IRC logs: http://www.pandaboard.org/pbirclogs/ | IRC Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ircsurvivalguide'
  286. [09:20:30] * Set by orbarron!~orb@nat/ti/x-ztoqabxrceydslsj on Mon Jun 06 15:00:29 UTC 2011
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  294. [09:40:25] <Openfree`> retzo, works here, actually I'm use usb-storage as my rootfs media
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  296. [09:43:51] <retzo> Openfree`: Did usb mass storage work out-of-the-box? I had to recompile the kernel to get at least the dmesg i posted. I followed this hint http://omappedia.org/wiki/OMAP_Pandroid_Main#USB_Mass_Storage
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  321. [10:32:06] <chickennugget> hello; could you say me witch tty is the sereal port normaly ?
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  338. [11:24:37] <kumabear> hi everyone, can i ask question here?
  339. [11:25:34] <ericb2> kumabear: ask, for sure (this is IRC goal). Obtain an answer, if someone can :)
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  341. [11:30:19] <kumabear> hi ericb2, i see, thanks a lot
  342. [11:30:43] <ericb2> kumabear: yw :)
  343. [11:31:01] <kumabear> i have pandaboard and want to verify bluetooth function
  344. [11:31:43] <kumabear> i wonder i don't even get right kernel image and root file system to verify
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  346. [11:33:05] <kumabear> does anyone know where i can get the uImage binary and root file system?
  347. [11:35:14] <ericb2> kumabear: I suppose you know thins link : http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/getting-started ?
  348. [11:36:39] <ericb2> kumabear: not sure this answers to your question, but if I'm not wrong, there is another possibility : http://www.sakoman.com/
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  350. [11:37:22] <kumabear> ericb2: i had checked this link
  351. [11:38:10] <ericb2> kumabear: ok
  352. [11:38:12] <kumabear> ericb2: i still can't get the uImage what i want
  353. [11:38:29] <ericb2> kumabear: so let's wait for an answer
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  355. [11:39:40] <kumabear> ericb2: i had finished the wl1271 wifi test, it works
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  359. [11:40:18] <kumabear> ericb2: but i can't make bluetooth function work
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  361. [11:40:43] <ericb2> kumabear: maybe not available with the current kernel
  362. [11:40:57] * ericb2 did not play with that since a long while
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  364. [11:42:30] <kumabear> ericb2: i see
  365. [11:43:31] <robclark> aquadran, can you paste the ducati traces from syslink_trace_daemon?
  366. [11:43:53] <ericb2> kumabear: did you test whether the blutooth devices exist / work ? Can you read their state in /proc or somewhere else in the log ?
  367. [11:44:03] <robclark> (I normally use 'syslink_trace_daemon -l /var/log/ducati.log' so I end up w/ all the ducati traces in one place..)
  368. [11:44:40] <robclark> rsalveti, yeah, I have playback basically "working".. there are still some display issues..
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  370. [11:46:58] <kumabear> ericb2, all i konw is "insmod st_drv.ko and bt_drv.ko" then hciattach -p -s 115200 /dev/ttyS1 texas 115200 flow
  371. [11:47:35] <kumabear> ericb2, i am not sure what correct device name is
  372. [11:47:59] <ericb2> kumabear: sometimes, /dev/ttyS0 or other can be used, indeed
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  376. [11:56:09] <ericb2> kumabear: did you install hciconfig ?
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  378. [11:58:43] <kumabear> ericb2, yes i did
  379. [11:59:00] <ericb2> kumabear: and hciconfig -a returns what ?
  380. [12:01:04] <kumabear> ericb2, there is a hci0 with address 00:00:00:00:00:00
  381. [12:01:30] <ericb2> kumabear: not good I guess
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  383. [12:02:30] <kumabear> eircb2, yep, it is incorrect
  384. [12:03:35] <ericb2> kumabear: does a deamon or something like that exist for bluetooth ? I mean /etc/init.d/bluetooth start or something
  385. [12:03:35] <ericb2>
  386. [12:04:02] <ericb2> kumabear: I think dmesg should help too
  387. [12:04:29] <ericb2> kumabear: are you sure the firmware is loaded / exists ... and so on
  388. [12:04:41] <ericb2> kumabear: I'd suggest you to search i this direction first
  389. [12:05:38] <ericb2> kumabear: FYI http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/hcitool1.html
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  391. [12:06:53] <kumabear> ericb2, before using hcitool, i fail in previous step "hciattach"
  392. [12:07:13] <chickennugget> what is the tty port i have to use do make up a serial conection to a pc ?
  393. [12:07:18] <ericb2> kumabear: ahh, so this is probably a low level issue
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  395. [12:07:40] <kumabear> ericb2, yes
  396. [12:08:18] <ericb2> kumabear: first track : check the .config matching with your kernel
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  398. [12:13:20] <chickennugget> can no one help me wih the serial port adress ?
  399. [12:13:40] <kumabear> ericb2, sorry, all i have now is MLO, u-boot.bin , uImage and root file system
  400. [12:14:12] <kumabear> ericb2, i don't even have the kernel source tree to check .config
  401. [12:14:36] <ericb2> kumabear: where did you find everything ? I guess there is a way to know the retrieve the .config
  402. [12:14:48] <LetoThe2nd> chickennugget: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_on_OMAP_FAQ#I_want_to_a_console_on_serial_connection.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F says ttyO2
  403. [12:14:55] <ericb2> s/to know the retrieve/to retrieve/
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  405. [12:15:42] <kumabear> ericb2, sorry, i don't understand
  406. [12:15:55] <ericb2> kumabear: uname -a gives ?
  407. [12:16:37] <ericb2> kumabear: then try to download the sources archive matching with your kernel ?
  408. [12:16:38] <kumabear> ericb2, there is no uname include
  409. [12:16:46] <ericb2> kumabear: strange
  410. [12:16:54] <kumabear> ericb2, # uname uname: not found
  411. [12:17:20] <ericb2> kumabear: is it Debian, or derived set ?
  412. [12:17:29] <kumabear> ericb2, i guess i download a wired root file system
  413. [12:17:57] <ericb2> kumabear: ah, maybe the busybox or something like that included
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  415. [12:18:19] <ericb2> kumabear: where did you download everything ?
  416. [12:19:12] <Pfruxy> Hey, I am using my pandaboard for robotic purpuses, but I was interested in playing some movies as well. I don't have any experience with gstreamer and other video software and I have some problems with playing movies. Afther installing Ubuntu-Netbook 11.04 and the omap4 addons, I am not able to run certain movies (.mkv with H.264/AAC) on fullscreen without framedrops. I tested this by using totem and vlc player. Is there any sof
  417. [12:19:13] <kumabear> ericb2, sorry, my co-work gave me the related file (MLO, u-boot.bin, uImage and root file system)
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  419. [12:20:00] <kumabear> ericb2, i copy all of them into SD card
  420. [12:20:45] <kumabear> ericb2, enven the busybox seems not correct, at least the wifi function can be verified and it works
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  422. [12:27:34] <Pfruxy> anyone ?
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  471. [13:24:46] <fiveipads> hey does anyone know how to get the superuser apk to ask for root on pandroid?
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  479. [13:33:20] <stm__> hi all
  480. [13:33:35] <stm__> iam trying to boot the pandaboard
  481. [13:34:04] <stm__> iam getting can't open /dev/ttyO2: No such file or directory
  482. [13:34:19] <fiveipads> what are you trying to boot on the pandaboard?
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  484. [13:35:20] * LetoThe2nd suspects that the ttyOx are remapped to ttySx in the kernel.
  485. [13:35:22] <stm__> iam trying boot with the custom builded u image
  486. [13:36:09] <stm__> with minimal rooot filesystem builded using buildroot
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  488. [13:36:32] <LetoThe2nd> and honestly, i'm coming slose to the point where a certain asker who obviously invests absolutely no own brain power into understanding things and just erratically toys around will be plonked.
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  530. [15:31:19] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  531. [15:31:44] <mru> fee fie foe fum
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  544. [16:02:39] <Pfruxy> Hey, I am using my pandaboard for robotic purpuses, but I was interested in playing some movies as well. I don't have any experience with gstreamer and other video software and I have some problems with playing movies. Afther installing Ubuntu-Netbook 11.04 and the omap4 addons, I am not able to run certain movies (.mkv with H.264/AAC) on fullscreen without framedrops. I tested this by using totem and vlc player. Is there any sof
  545. [16:03:39] <hell> what video driver u use?
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  547. [16:04:30] <Pfruxy> I don't know, I just installed the Ubuntu-Netbook 11.04 version and the omap4 addons
  548. [16:04:40] <Pfruxy> are there some other drivers ?
  549. [16:05:09] <robclark> fwiw, the hw codecs are not officially available for 11.04...
  550. [16:05:38] <Pfruxy> aha, is there a way to install them unofficially
  551. [16:06:13] <robclark> well.. depends.. if you are comfortable recompiling a lot of stuff and doing a bit of hacking, it is possible to get stuff working..
  552. [16:06:21] <robclark> maybe not w/ totem yet..
  553. [16:06:45] <hell> from some binary distro?
  554. [16:07:03] <robclark> no binary distro... see http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/DistributedCodecEngine
  555. [16:07:11] <robclark> for how to rebuild ducati firmware..
  556. [16:07:27] <Pfruxy> ok, thanks, I will have a look !
  557. [16:07:31] <robclark> current stuff is probably not appropriate if you just want binaries you can drop in..
  558. [16:08:19] <Pfruxy> uhu, as I see ...
  559. [16:09:11] <Pfruxy> And is it better in Meego, or is it based on the same software ?
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  561. [16:10:24] <hell> not a big deal, but why it doesn't come in some kind of non-free distro?
  562. [16:11:20] <robclark> actually, decoders work fine on 11.04.. the limiting factor is display issues on 11.04 kernel..
  563. [16:11:36] <robclark> so without video overlay, there wasn't much point to package up codec stuff
  564. [16:12:05] <topfs2> grr, why doesn't my panda want to recognize my 1920x1200 display
  565. [16:12:12] <topfs2> I didn' thave to do anything with the 1680x1050 :)
  566. [16:12:36] <topfs2> the omapdss.mode thing is supposed to be enouhg right?
  567. [16:12:43] <robclark> which kernel?
  568. [16:12:59] <topfs2> -bash-4.2$ uname -a
  569. [16:12:59] <topfs2> Linux tobias-pandaboard 2.6.38-1208-omap4 #11-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 15 16:34:35 UTC 2011 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
  570. [16:13:17] <topfs2> (natty)
  571. [16:13:26] <robclark> I thought it was some omapfb bootarg, if you are using original natty kernel...
  572. [16:13:52] <robclark> there is a bit newer stuff w/ DRM/KMS driver.. where you can change resolution in more normal ways...
  573. [16:14:05] <robclark> but I'm still having pixel clock issues w/ higher resolutions..
  574. [16:14:30] <robclark> although was planning to switch to 3.0 kernel and see if dss2 is in better shape
  575. [16:14:40] <topfs2> Well I use natty kernel afaik, I have jus tinstalled omap4 extras and then altered the bootargs to setenv bootargs ro elevator=noop vram=32M mem=456M@0x80000000 mem=512M@0xA0000000 root=UUID=f1c5992f-0313-4779-a118-c1ccd8aad947 fixrtc omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60
  576. [16:15:00] <Pfruxy> I have the impression the upscaling is the biggest problem. Do you have any idea when there will be some solution ?
  577. [16:15:01] <topfs2> so just slapped on the last part and removed splash and quiet
  578. [16:15:48] <Pfruxy> (in the form of a binary)
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  580. [16:16:18] <robclark> downscaling should be "harder" than upscaling.. but I think there is something wrong w/ dss display driver..
  581. [16:16:32] <robclark> it is having problems w/ resolutions that should work fine..
  582. [16:16:44] <robclark> but I'm not enough of an expert on dss clocks
  583. [16:17:48] <Pfruxy> ok, no problem, thanks for the information! Have a nice day !
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  585. [16:18:33] <topfs2> robclark, by normal conventions you mean xorg.conf and such?
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  587. [16:19:06] <robclark> topfs2, I mean, xrandr cmdline or xorg.conf or gnome-display-properties, etc..
  588. [16:19:23] <robclark> or bootargs, even..
  589. [16:19:42] <topfs2> ah ok, well the gnome-display one didn't show anything besides 640x480 sadly. I'll have to digg through the kernel log and see if I can find anything
  590. [16:19:52] <topfs2> seems like it _should_ give me 720p display though
  591. [16:20:00] <robclark> yeah, it sounds like you have the pre DRM kernel..
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  593. [16:20:18] <robclark> w/ DRM/KMS driver, you would see more than just "unknown" in monitors control panel
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  595. [16:21:21] <topfs2> would switch to trunk repo help? would think that the kernel has KMS in natty?
  596. [16:22:29] <robclark> not sure if it is in trunk.. it is in linaro kernel..
  597. [16:22:51] <robclark> omap KMS driver is relatively newish, so wasn't quite integrated in time to make the freeze before 11.04
  598. [16:22:57] <aquadran> robclark: http://pastebin.com/LmFiFiWH it's from loading firmwares, nothing while playing with playomapfb
  599. [16:23:21] <topfs2> ah ok, perhaps I should check out the linaro thing then
  600. [16:24:09] <robclark> aquadran, are you rebuilding dce_app_m3.xem3? If so, could I ask you to enable some traces?
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  602. [16:24:58] <aquadran> robclark: i used your build, but yes, i can rebuild
  603. [16:25:21] <topfs2> robclark, the natty 11.06 on linaro homepage ok? (seems to be 2.6.39-2011.06)
  604. [16:26:27] <robclark> aquadran, could you try these two changes: http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/6563867
  605. [16:27:12] <robclark> topfs2, I think so.. I was building myself, but I think 11.06 should have the KMS stuff... rsalveti would know for sure
  606. [16:27:28] <topfs2> robclark, awesome, thanks. Will try it out
  607. [16:28:19] <rsalveti> topfs2: the best supported kernel for omap 4 atm from linaro is the one provided by the TI landing team
  608. [16:28:52] <rsalveti> topfs2: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-linux-linaro-2.6.38
  609. [16:29:08] <rsalveti> topfs2: there's also the .39 one, but don't know in details if everything is working as the .38
  610. [16:29:31] <topfs2> rsalveti, ah cool, perhaps I should try that one if the .39 doesn't work out
  611. [16:29:38] <aquadran> robclark: dce from userland too i guess ?
  612. [16:29:38] <rsalveti> topfs2: yup
  613. [16:29:51] <rsalveti> topfs2: and ping agreen on #linaro if you have any problem :-)
  614. [16:29:56] <robclark> aquadran, ducati side only is fine
  615. [16:30:10] <topfs2> just want to get some proper resolution so I can start getting the omap overlay patches mergable for xbmc :)
  616. [16:30:14] * robclark was wondering why agreen doesn't hang out here ;-)
  617. [16:30:47] <robclark> topfs2, fwiw.. overlay works just barely, but I don't think this is in linaro kernel yet..
  618. [16:30:55] <robclark> I basically just got it working last weekend
  619. [16:31:05] <topfs2> argh ofcourse :S
  620. [16:31:09] <topfs2> darnit :)
  621. [16:31:28] <robclark> topfs2, have a look at https://github.com/robclark/kernel-omap4/commits/ti-omap4-drm-syslink-v4l2
  622. [16:31:48] <robclark> although v4l2 overlay stuff was working more stable on 2.6.35 still..
  623. [16:31:54] <topfs2> robclark, is that why there are issues with omx and such with natty?
  624. [16:32:03] <topfs2> or perhaps I'm missinformed, I read that somewhere
  625. [16:33:01] <robclark> well... despite the issues w/ omx, really the problem is display support in 2.6.38..
  626. [16:33:13] <pfefferz> I'm here rob
  627. [16:33:23] <robclark> hi pfefferz :-)
  628. [16:33:51] <robclark> fwiw, we have some almost functional NV12/overlay support working..
  629. [16:33:58] <pfefferz> Hi robclark, we've got 3.0 based Linaro kernel on Pandaboard now
  630. [16:34:03] <topfs2> robclark, oh cool
  631. [16:34:08] <robclark> oh, cool..
  632. [16:34:21] <robclark> is DSS working any better there?
  633. [16:34:30] <robclark> (re: limited DVI resolutions, overlay, NV12, etc)
  634. [16:34:38] * ericb2 impressed by Linaro people work, and applaudes
  635. [16:34:48] <topfs2> I still find it weird reading 3.0 linux :) feels like I've missed 10 years or something :p
  636. [16:35:12] <prpplague> hehe
  637. [16:35:15] <prpplague> topfs2: me too
  638. [16:35:16] <pfefferz> robclark, I'm not sure
  639. [16:35:32] <pfefferz> robclark, I can get you going with the kernel if you want to try it out
  640. [16:36:41] <robclark> pfefferz, how closely in sync w/ https://github.com/nmenon/linux-omap-ti-pm/tree/omap-pm-integration is it?
  641. [16:37:04] <robclark> and I would be interested in what DSS issues are not already solved..
  642. [16:37:15] <robclark> I'd be more inclined to spend time debugging something that isn't already fixed ;-)
  643. [16:37:44] <pfefferz> not sure...
  644. [16:37:55] <pfefferz> let me spin up an email
  645. [16:39:19] <pfefferz> emailed...anyone else want on the email, please send me an email at zach.pfeffer@linaro.org
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  648. [16:46:01] <robclark> pfefferz, for non android stuff, *please* don't use the pvr driver built in kernel tree
  649. [16:46:14] <pfefferz> okay
  650. [16:46:16] <robclark> actually I'm not sure why they move it in kernel tree for android.. it is a stupid idea
  651. [16:46:26] <robclark> problem is pvr doesn't have a stable binary interface
  652. [16:46:32] <pfefferz> would you send a note to andy and ricardo?
  653. [16:46:38] <pfefferz> yeah...
  654. [16:46:39] <robclark> so you can't mix/match user/kernel versions
  655. [16:46:42] <pfefferz> I know...
  656. [16:46:43] <robclark> sure
  657. [16:46:46] <pfefferz> thanks
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  660. [17:00:24] <ogra_> phh, i bet prpplague can help you :)
  661. [17:00:37] <prpplague> uh oh
  662. [17:00:39] * prpplague hides
  663. [17:00:39] <ogra_> he dreams new TI hardware occasionally :)
  664. [17:01:13] <phh> how can we access the camera from standard linux userland ?
  665. [17:01:24] <phh> i haven't got much luck with openmax ducati component
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  668. [17:03:28] <prpplague> phh: camera stuff is out of my area of expertise, iirc there is now an open source driver that is available for use with the dsi camera modules
  669. [17:03:39] <prpplague> phh: you have one of the csi camera modules?
  670. [17:04:34] <phh> well, atm we're using ducati, and it works fine in android, so we'll just use ducati there too
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  673. [17:07:46] <aquadran> robclark: http://pastebin.com/mYPqJ4ep
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  677. [17:13:23] <topfs2> ping mrc3_
  678. [17:13:29] <topfs2> argh, sorry, meant ping mru
  679. [17:13:41] <mru> pong 100fps
  680. [17:14:03] <topfs2> omapfbplay, is it under a specific license? trying to deduce if its gpl compatible (looks like it)
  681. [17:14:19] <topfs2> your dce implementation looks close to drop in for xbmc :)
  682. [17:15:44] <mru> there should be licence headers on all files
  683. [17:17:02] <skorgon> anybody here has experince with RVDS and can give me some advice on which compiler flags may be useful for tuning for performance?
  684. [17:17:27] <mru> -O3 -Otime and hope you don't hit any bugs
  685. [17:18:00] <mru> and the relevant --cpu and --fpu options
  686. [17:18:01] <topfs2> mru, yeah thats the one I'm reading, seems ok to me. Mostly wondered if there was a specific one you had (as I can't find any ref to one in perticular)
  687. [17:18:16] <mru> I think that's the MIT licence
  688. [17:18:24] <skorgon> thanks, i'll give it a shot
  689. [17:19:58] <skorgon> ah --fpu, that's definately missing in my makefile. good call, thanks
  690. [17:21:06] <topfs2> oh thanks, mru yeah it is. perfect
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  692. [17:22:30] <fest> hi!
  693. [17:22:42] <fest> i need some help installing ubuntu for pandaboard
  694. [17:23:16] <fest> i have no hdmi/dvi screen, so i try to work with remote desktop
  695. [17:23:25] <fest> but... i need to install ubuntu first
  696. [17:23:50] <fest> and the standard way to do that is through graphical interface
  697. [17:23:58] <robclark> aquadran, ok, looks from traces like it is decoding ok.. you might want to try 720p clip or lower, because I'm suspecting same issue w/ enabling overlays for higher resolution
  698. [17:24:08] <fest> is there a way i can install it through the serial interface?
  699. [17:24:56] <ogra_> fest, use the headless image
  700. [17:25:03] <skorgon> wow, -Otime makes a huge difference, although I had -O3 already in
  701. [17:25:16] <fest> ogra_, thanks
  702. [17:26:36] <skorgon> mru, do you know the appropriate --fpu switch for an A9 with NEON and vfpv3?
  703. [17:27:04] <mru> did you try reading the manual?
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  705. [17:28:11] <skorgon> actually no. I took the lazy approach. I thought asking here might give faster results.
  706. [17:28:51] <skorgon> though, armcc --help does not even list the fpu option
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  708. [17:29:11] <skorgon> so I'm not sure what I should think of arm documentation
  709. [17:33:23] <montamer> Hi guys, I am new here. I have a query. Does pandroid support accelerated video codecs? I have tried L27.12.1-P2 build
  710. [17:33:43] <montamer> I am trying to play a 480p video and its very slow
  711. [17:34:28] <montamer> the video is encoded with h264 codec
  712. [17:34:37] <prpplague> montamer: current releases only support the arm software codecs, iirc
  713. [17:34:55] <prpplague> montamer: i don't think there has been a release with the ducati codecs as of yet
  714. [17:36:32] <aquadran> robclark: it's 480p
  715. [17:36:37] <aquadran> tried few
  716. [17:37:16] <montamer> <prpplague> hi .... do you know when this will be supported? and also if its not supported how come they are launchhing droid3 and optimux3d with omap4 chip?
  717. [17:37:20] <aquadran> robclark: maybe some public clip which work for you
  718. [17:37:44] <prpplague> montamer: they are support, just not public
  719. [17:37:55] <robclark> aquadran, hmm, ok.. would have thought 480 would be fine..
  720. [17:38:06] <aquadran> robclark: i used ffmpeg from your fork
  721. [17:38:06] <robclark> I'm just using some 720p clips from apple trailers..
  722. [17:38:19] <aquadran> ok, let's try trailer
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  724. [17:38:34] <robclark> aquadran, hmm, my ffmpeg tree is old.. I should delete it..
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  728. [17:38:40] <robclark> I'm using libav
  729. [17:38:49] <robclark> fwiw.. just the stuff from ubuntu 11.04 release
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  732. [17:39:59] <aquadran> robclark: ok, will try libav too
  733. [17:40:29] <robclark> I don't expect that to be a problem... from the traces, it look like decoding is working ok..
  734. [17:41:07] <montamer> <prpplague> ohh k ..... If I am currect there are gstreamer accelerated codecs for ubuntu. And also there is a project for gstreamer on android. So can't we use them?
  735. [17:41:54] <prpplague> montamer: might ask on the mailing list or over in #ubuntu-arm , i don't normally work with any of the multimedia stuff
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  737. [17:42:37] <aquadran> robclark: it's decoding about 21 calls and stuck
  738. [17:42:40] <robclark> montamer, it is probably something that sounds easier than it is ;-)
  739. [17:43:04] <robclark> aquadran, my guess is that 21 is the # of buffers allocated
  740. [17:43:14] <robclark> maybe DQBUF isn't working?
  741. [17:43:14] <aquadran> maybe
  742. [17:43:26] <montamer> <prpplague> I will check that, and thanx for the replies. :)
  743. [17:43:31] <prpplague> montamer: np
  744. [17:43:57] <robclark> fwiw.. I just used it on DVI.. not HDMI.. I had to make some changes in v4l2 driver to support VSYNC2 interrupt.. but should work for HDMI too I would have thought..
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  746. [17:46:19] <montamer> <robclark > I am not saying its simple. But I thought someone would have started working on it, as its been almost a year since panda is first available and 1080p is one of the highlighted features of panda. :)
  747. [17:48:11] <robclark> well.. android itself supports the hw codecs on omap4.. but I don't know why it isn't supported on panda..
  748. [17:48:21] <montamer> I already have a beagleboard. I am working on a startup idea and I got pandaboard thinking 1080p is supported. Hmmm ......
  749. [17:48:43] * mlocke1 is now known as mlocke
  750. [17:48:51] <robclark> but so far the R&D teams working on android haven't been officially supporting panda.. and I guess customers that buy millions of omaps might get a bit more of their attention ;-)
  751. [17:49:16] <robclark> montamer, I'd look at the stuff the linaro folks are doing..
  752. [17:51:28] <montamer> I have checked that too. All i could find was a optimized toolchain, but nothing on codecs.
  753. [17:53:46] <montamer> I am finding some openmax and ducati related files in pandroidsource/hardware/ti/omx folder. Any idea on this?
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  755. [17:55:34] <robclark> montamer, probably all the a9 side code is there..
  756. [17:56:01] <robclark> the tricky thing is getting ducati firmware build that can be released publically and is aligned w/ a9 side syslink/domx/stagefright
  757. [17:56:46] <nhg> montamer: I assume you have already looked at the ubuntu 10.10 accelerated codecs (mpeg4 and h264) we have released that are functional on panda and 1080p playback is also supported.
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  760. [17:58:09] <montamer> <robclark> thanx for the info .....
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  762. [17:59:46] <aquadran> robclark: tried transformers trailer. on hdmi it stuck as before, but on dvi, playing, but no overlay
  763. [18:00:16] <aquadran> however now i get error VIDDEC3_process() error -1 00001020
  764. [18:00:20] <robclark> aquadran, if you have both plugged in, you might want to do this (as root):
  765. [18:00:39] <robclark> echo lcd2 > /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/overlay2/manager
  766. [18:00:44] <robclark> to redirect to dvi
  767. [18:00:56] <robclark> (otherwise it will just go to hdmi, which is 'tv' manager)
  768. [18:01:08] <robclark> that _process() error is ok.. it is non-fatal
  769. [18:01:36] <montamer> <nhg> Hi I just got the pandaboard 1 week back and I have not tested ubuntu yet. I would prefer 1080p on android than ubuntu, probably I have to move my application from android to ubuntu for now. Will check ubuntu 10.10 release sometime tonight. Do you have any info on when accelerated codecs will be supported on android?
  770. [18:02:57] <aquadran> robclark: i have plugged one at same time, switched and boot again. so i'll switch to dvi, and redirect overlay to dvi
  771. [18:04:07] <robclark> if you have only dvi attached, the overlay should switch automatically..
  772. [18:04:43] <aquadran> let's try again
  773. [18:05:05] <robclark> (or at least it will switch automatically w/ this patch https://github.com/robclark/kernel-omap4/commit/40017798a45ac469721deb05aadbb8412760864e )
  774. [18:05:13] <montamer> Thanx you guys for all the support. Will come back and let you know after testing ubuntu build
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  776. [18:08:11] <aquadran> robclark: it doesn't redirect automaticaly, lets try manually
  777. [18:11:03] <aquadran> robclark: after redirect, and restart playback, it works
  778. [18:11:08] <aquadran> i SEE :)
  779. [18:11:17] <aquadran> however slow
  780. [18:11:48] <robclark> ok, you may need to go back to the build without all the traces ;-)
  781. [18:11:56] <aquadran> ah, right :)
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  783. [18:14:30] <aquadran> robclark: btw, that distortion(that strange crack line) on dvi is not visible on overlay
  784. [18:15:55] <robclark> hmm..
  785. [18:15:56] <aquadran> actually it's only background, also overlapping windows are fine
  786. [18:16:01] <robclark> weird..
  787. [18:16:01] <aquadran> strange
  788. [18:16:15] <robclark> it isn't your desktop wallpaper? ;-P
  789. [18:16:31] <aquadran> not mine, it's ubuntu :-P
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  791. [18:20:26] <aquadran> robclark: still slow, cpu almost idle. and i get left/top border flickering distortion, and left border has some green orverlay visible
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  793. [18:21:38] <aquadran> robclark: after some play time, it speedup
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  795. [18:23:02] <aquadran> robclark: maybe it;s related something else, when logon windows is start displaying, it has very slow show up transition
  796. [18:23:24] <aquadran> maybe sync
  797. [18:25:07] <aquadran> however moving windows is fine
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  805. [18:28:55] <aquadran> robclark: that crack lines happen on overlay but very randomly
  806. [18:29:14] <aquadran> this time it speedup early
  807. [18:34:18] <aquadran> it also play slow 480p. much slower than on a9
  808. [18:35:18] <aquadran> and again after some time it speedup
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  810. [18:40:45] <d3> can someone help me fix "Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.41 (Sep 1 2010 - 12:43:00) Error: reading boot sector Could not red bootloader! X-Loader hangs
  811. [18:42:11] <robclark> aquadran, yeah, the cropping is broken in v4l2..
  812. [18:42:19] <robclark> you are seeing the codec borders
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  814. [18:43:51] <aquadran> robclark: is it possible turn off display sync for playback in omapfbplay ?
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  816. [18:44:28] <mru> with v4l2 output, no
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  818. [18:45:12] <aquadran> hmm, will try omapfb display output
  819. [18:45:31] <mru> that doesn't work with dce
  820. [18:45:39] <aquadran> ah
  821. [18:45:50] <aquadran> why not ?
  822. [18:51:51] <aquadran> no kernel support ?
  823. [18:52:30] <aquadran> no /dev/fb1
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  825. [18:53:42] <robclark> aquadran, might want to look at libdce/test.c
  826. [18:53:47] <robclark> if you want without display..
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  828. [18:54:02] <robclark> or you could just put some gettimeofday()'s around VIDDEC3_process()
  829. [18:54:27] <robclark> that is where decode happens. Should be taking ~20ms and change per frame
  830. [18:54:45] <robclark> if you see it take 2x that, then maybe IVAHD got stuck at OPP50 ;-)
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  835. [19:12:14] <aquadran> robclark: decode time is 7-8ms for 720p, however it struggles some slow down randomly, like someting else interfere
  836. [19:12:39] <aquadran> i'll disable display output
  837. [19:13:29] <aquadran> it's 100ms
  838. [19:14:16] <aquadran> i mean that interference slowdown
  839. [19:16:00] <robclark> aquadran, I guess it is in one of two places.. either input (reading file from MMC, or wherever), or output (display)..
  840. [19:16:54] <aquadran> i'm using usb disk
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  842. [19:17:46] <robclark> you could probably comment some stuff in v4l2.c to stub out the QBUF/DQBUF.. to take display out of the picture..
  843. [19:17:50] <robclark> (so to speak)
  844. [19:18:24] <aquadran> yeah, noticed that, as decode stuck as for hdmi :)
  845. [19:18:35] <aquadran> same as
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  848. [19:25:20] <JimmyDB> Hello There
  849. [19:26:03] <JimmyDB> Can anyone tell me a quick/easy way to mux J6/28 so I can use it as GPIO_59 instead of GPMC Byte Enable 0
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  852. [19:33:34] <prpplague> JimmyDB: you can edit the x-loader files for one
  853. [19:33:48] <prpplague> JimmyDB: just change the pin to match one of the other gpios
  854. [19:35:10] <JimmyDB> I was hoping not to change the x-loader files...
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  856. [19:35:24] <prpplague> JimmyDB: gpio_59 should be configured to operate as a gpio already
  857. [19:35:27] <prpplague> JimmyDB: why?
  858. [19:35:51] <djc_> can anyone help me troubleshoot: Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.41 (Sep 1 2010 - 13:43:00) Error: reading boot sector Could not read bootloader! X-Loader hangs
  859. [19:35:56] <JimmyDB> simple task, so I thought, activate an LED on GPIO_59 to relay various status information
  860. [19:37:32] <prpplague> JimmyDB: why do you not want to change the bootloader?
  861. [19:37:42] <prpplague> JimmyDB: also why not use the two onboard leds?
  862. [19:37:48] <JimmyDB> @prpplaque: Maybe you can spot what I have done wrong then,... sudo ./devmem2 0x48055194 w 0x1B
  863. [19:38:14] <prpplague> JimmyDB: you are wanting to do this from user space?
  864. [19:38:17] <JimmyDB> Well, I actually want to enable/control 2 RGB led's for various messages with PWM
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  866. [19:38:25] <JimmyDB> just tesing in user space
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  869. [19:41:48] <pfefferz> robclark, would you take a look at a patch
  870. [19:42:09] <robclark> pfefferz, sure
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  872. [19:43:36] <pfefferz> robclark, sent...I'd like to upstream it
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  874. [19:46:10] <djc_> could somone at least let me know if the problem is fixable or if I have to RMA the board?
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  876. [19:47:00] <prpplague> djc_: you most likely have a problem with how you created your sd card
  877. [19:47:51] <djc_> alright, do the instructions from (http://omappedia.org/wiki/Minimal-FS_SD_Configuration) work correctly?
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  879. [19:48:28] <djc_> I've followed them several times and still get the same error message
  880. [19:48:30] <prpplague> djc_: yes
  881. [19:49:00] <djc_> alright thanks
  882. [19:49:07] <prpplague> djc_: the x-loader can not find the u-boot.bin file on the sd card
  883. [19:49:13] <prpplague> djc_: make sure you have it present
  884. [19:49:18] <prpplague> djc_: and named correctly
  885. [19:49:18] <aquadran> robclark: it seems i can not stub display out properly, it still stuck at filled buffer, if you have time help with that, if not i'll try tomorow to find out with fresh mind
  886. [19:49:49] <djc_> the partitions are named boot and rootfs and automount when I connect the sd card to my host machine
  887. [19:50:00] <djc_> I'm not sure what you mean by present
  888. [19:50:21] <prpplague> djc_: u-boot.bin must be in the boot partition
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  890. [19:51:13] <djc_> in boot I have MLO, u-boot.bin, and uImage
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  892. [19:51:50] <djc_> in rootfs I have the contents of angrsom_minimal-fs.tar.gz which is from L24.9-PandaBoad\_minimal-fs.tar.gz
  893. [19:52:32] <prpplague> djc_: should be good then
  894. [19:52:40] <prpplague> djc_: might want to double check
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  896. [19:52:56] <prpplague> djc_: and also check to make sure that the card detect pin on the sd card cage isn't bent
  897. [19:54:58] <djc_> is that the pin after the end of the writing that is long and makes a squiggle?
  898. [19:55:52] <djc_> it seems like the card is at least being detected, the error message just states that there is trouble reading the boot partition
  899. [19:57:03] <prpplague> djc_: yes, normally x-loader and u-boot don't use the card detect, but it is good to check anyway
  900. [19:57:40] <djc_> alright I'm going to reformat the card again, but if I continue getting the same error what should I do?
  901. [19:59:36] <prpplague> djc_: try booting via the usb port
  902. [20:00:18] <djc_> could you link me to a guide for that procedure?
  903. [20:01:52] <prpplague> http://pandaboard.org/content/usb-downloader-and-usb-second-stage-bootloader-omap4
  904. [20:02:04] <djc_> also when I am starting up the board I only have the serial connector and power cable attached with the SD card inserted, am I missing any essential peripherals
  905. [20:02:05] <djc_> thanks
  906. [20:02:21] <prpplague> djc_: that should be fine for initial testing
  907. [20:03:05] <PeregrineFalcon> I'm new to the pandaboard, and considering using it for some work...
  908. [20:03:15] <djc_> alright thanks for your help!
  909. [20:03:18] <PeregrineFalcon> Does anyone with some experience with it have a moment to answer a few questions?
  910. [20:03:46] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: ask away, if someone is available and knows the answer they will most likely respond
  911. [20:04:38] <PeregrineFalcon> Is there anyway to connect a baseband chip, say via PCIe? Or would it require a custom board built off the expansion connector? Would the expansion connector even support this?
  912. [20:06:00] <JimmyDB> leave
  913. [20:06:02] <JimmyDB> ooops
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  915. [20:07:02] <PeregrineFalcon> For example Qualcomms Gobi 2000 card would be nice
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  918. [20:10:09] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: PCIe is not directly supported, however if aren't afraid of a soldering iron you could hack up a subset of PCIe that is functional for modem and communication devices such as the gobi card
  919. [20:10:38] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: are you wanting data only communications?
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  925. [20:23:33] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Not sure yet.
  926. [20:23:52] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: not sure?
  927. [20:24:12] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: well it can be done, if you can use a soldering iron
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  929. [20:24:14] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: If necessary I can do some soldering. The not sure was in reference to the data only.
  930. [20:24:45] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: right, but how can you not be sure? i assume you do have something in mind you want to accomplish
  931. [20:26:00] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: This is a research project I'm working on so it comes down to what is possible in the amount of time. Ideally it would be nice to make a phone call, and send/rcv sms
  932. [20:27:27] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: http://www.sparkfun.com/categories/69
  933. [20:27:39] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: easier solutions for at a min data support
  934. [20:28:49] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Ah very nice...that's a helpful link :)
  935. [20:30:16] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: so the expansion interface is compatible? On the pandaboard site I didn't see what the boards expansion slot really was.
  936. [20:30:32] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Rather I had a hard time seeing it from the picture.
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  939. [20:34:08] <xer> hi, i have a problem, i'm trying the headless installation but after selecting the packages, it keeps restarting the installation menu, i go trough it again and it restarts again
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  942. [20:37:49] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: i am sorry i did not understand your statement
  943. [20:38:02] <prpplague> xer: headless ubuntu?
  944. [20:38:37] <xer> @prpplague: yes
  945. [20:38:46] <xer> prpplague: yes
  946. [20:41:13] <xer> no ideas what could be the problem?
  947. [20:41:24] <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
  948. [20:41:46] <prpplague> xer: best results will come from asking on #ubuntu-arm
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  950. [20:41:53] <prpplague> xer: since this is ubuntu specific
  951. [20:42:41] <xer> ok thanks!
  952. [20:43:04] <xer> btw, any ideas on a good console? i'm unable to see the cursor in the installation
  953. [20:43:51] <prpplague> xer: i am sorry i did not understand your question
  954. [20:45:13] <xer> i'm installing ubuntu through commandline, but the interface is so bad i don't see a cursor, and don't know what is selected (like ok or cancel), i guess this is my console (xterm), so any ideas on another one?
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  956. [20:46:35] <prpplague> xer: i assume you are refering to your terminal emulator. i use minicom for all my communications via uart to the boards such as the pandaboard
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  958. [20:47:12] <xer> prpplague: i'm using minicom to, but with the console i mean something like xterm, aterm, ...
  959. [20:47:35] <prpplague> xer: you mean a terminal window
  960. [20:48:02] <prpplague> xer: i normal use gnome terminal with no issues
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  962. [20:48:52] <xer> prpplague: k thanks
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  964. [20:53:40] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: What type of connection is does the pandaboard support for expansion (besides uart)?
  965. [20:54:28] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: the expansion header has gpio, usb, gpmc, i2c, spi, lcd, sd/mmc
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  967. [20:57:18] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: thanks! My plan is to use Ubuntu + JTAG BH-USB560 + TI's CCSv5 IDE
  968. [20:57:49] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: what are you using the jtag and CCS for?
  969. [20:59:12] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: debugging, halting, monitoring registers, etc.
  970. [20:59:37] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: unless you are doing some bootloader work, you won;t need that
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  972. [21:00:50] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Yeah, it's within scope.
  973. [21:01:37] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: i am not sure what you mean, but ok
  974. [21:01:42] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: I can't rely on any previous bootloader or OS. From scratch :)
  975. [21:01:50] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: why?
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  978. [21:02:21] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: you just said you plan to use ubuntu
  979. [21:02:32] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: I meant as my development environment
  980. [21:02:37] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: ahh
  981. [21:02:50] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: sorry for not being clear.
  982. [21:03:05] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: ok, well i wish you luck, you have a _lot_ of work ahead of you
  983. [21:03:22] <prpplague> mru: add one more to the list of OS from scratch
  984. [21:04:02] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: sure do :)
  985. [21:04:10] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: should be lots of fun though.
  986. [21:04:45] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: how long is your project suppose to take?
  987. [21:04:51] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: I've written an OS from scratch before while working on my masters
  988. [21:07:41] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: My only concern now is when they will be available again
  989. [21:07:51] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: looks like all pandaboards are out of stock
  990. [21:08:10] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: most places receive a shipment every friday
  991. [21:08:25] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: if you order now, most likely you will get it in 10-14 days
  992. [21:08:42] <prpplague> PeregrineFalcon: how much time have you allocated for your project?
  993. [21:08:46] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Ok...much appreciated. I'm going to probably place my order tomorrow morning.
  994. [21:09:03] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Its a group of us, working until the end of the year most likely.
  995. [21:09:12] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: but on and off
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  997. [21:09:39] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Need to take off for now though, I'm sure I'll be back in here.
  998. [21:09:46] <prpplague> ok
  999. [21:09:48] <PeregrineFalcon> prpplague: Thanks again for all the info
  1000. [21:09:55] <prpplague> no problem
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  1009. [21:24:50] <pcpower> if anyone is interested in a high-res photo of the current pandaboard, I have taken one here: http://i.imgur.com/niT8T.jpg
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  1011. [21:25:17] <pcpower> this image has no license, it's public domain... you can do whatever you want with it.
  1012. [21:26:03] <msrx> Is there a way to store bootcmd permanently on sd card when I use the prebuilt images of pandroid?
  1013. [21:26:08] <ds2> would you care to upload to some place like wikimedia and make a statement to that effect?
  1014. [21:27:07] <pcpower> ds2: how do I do that?
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  1016. [21:28:00] <ds2> let me find the info, give me a few
  1017. [21:28:56] <pcpower> been trying to get my board running, so far unsuccessful
  1018. [21:29:14] <pcpower> I don't have an "approved" power supply, one is on the way, so I've been trying ones I had around the house
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  1020. [21:29:23] <ds2> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing <-- look at that and I think it is a matter of using the upload link. you do need to create/get an account.
  1021. [21:29:27] <pcpower> the highest amperage supply I have currently is 2.4A
  1022. [21:29:37] <pcpower> it seems to power on ok, but I get no image on DVI/HDMI and nothing on serial output
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  1028. [21:31:55] <pcpower> ds2: ah, looks very complicated
  1029. [21:32:04] <pcpower> I can't be bothered :)
  1030. [21:32:19] <pcpower> if someone else wants to do it, they can claim they own it for all I care
  1031. [21:33:19] <ds2> :D
  1032. [21:33:39] <ds2> pcpower: the main reason I am suggesting that is so there is a papertrail
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  1034. [21:36:43] <ericb2> what are the characteristics of the alimentation we need to make a Pandaboard work ? One told me the need is 5V, 4 A and I'm a bit surprised, because I had in mind 1,5 to 2 A
  1035. [21:37:20] <LetoThe2nd> ~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[A
  1036. [21:38:04] <LetoThe2nd> sry, flaky connection here.
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  1040. [21:41:21] <bsapar> is the dvi port working on the panda board with the GB release
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  1045. [21:46:41] <jotschi> Hi
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  1047. [21:48:12] <jotschi> Can someone explain to me why the libEGL.so from ubuntu is different from the libEGL.so from the latest PowerVR SDK?
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  1051. [21:53:15] <djc26> I have the Minimal-FS loaded onto the board, but I need to be able to display video for my application. Is it possible to produce video with Minimal-FS or will I need another distro? I want the most stripped down distro possible with video capabilities
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  1053. [21:57:40] <djc26> anyone have any suggestions?
  1054. [21:59:28] <jotschi> Whats "Minimal-FS"?
  1055. [22:01:16] <djc26> it is one of the supported distributions listed on the pandaboard website
  1056. [22:01:38] <djc26> the other two options are android and ubuntu, but they are pretty clunky for my application
  1057. [22:01:56] <MrCurious> fs is file system
  1058. [22:02:02] <jotschi> Perhaps you should try debian
  1059. [22:02:05] <MrCurious> so minimal filesystem
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  1061. [22:02:29] <MrCurious> bah. try ubuntu, and uninstall until your happy
  1062. [22:03:01] <MrCurious> i didnt think debian was stable or even installable at current on panda
  1063. [22:03:17] <jotschi> I installed it some time ago.
  1064. [22:03:30] <MrCurious> did it have omap addons?
  1065. [22:03:38] <jotschi> No :)
  1066. [22:03:48] <MrCurious> so slow as a dog
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  1068. [22:04:31] <jotschi> I guess the headless ubuntu image is smaller
  1069. [22:04:56] <jotschi> My installation currently takes 2.1G
  1070. [22:05:11] <djc26> for ubuntu?
  1071. [22:05:14] <jotschi> yes
  1072. [22:05:28] <djc26> I'm more worried about performance than size
  1073. [22:05:42] <jotschi> but i installed the x stuff for myself.. i don't like the ubuntu desktop manager
  1074. [22:05:46] <djc26> i just don't want a bunch of background os stuff slowing down my application
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  1076. [22:10:31] <pcpower> ericb2: I was surprised too... 4A isn't really "low-power" as advertised. I tried a 2.4A power supply but I can't get anything to show up on the screen
  1077. [22:11:01] <djc26> I'm using 2.5A and I've got it working
  1078. [22:11:16] <ericb2> pcpower: in meantime I found a 5A alimentation
  1079. [22:11:52] <mru> the 4A includes 2A for 4 usb ports
  1080. [22:11:55] <ericb2> djc26: the USB thing is guilty
  1081. [22:12:36] <djc26> hmm I don't have any usb hooked up yet, I guess they won't work then x.x
  1082. [22:13:13] <ericb2> djc26: I don't know what could happen, maybe simply reboot
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  1086. [22:22:06] <jotschi> Has someone ever tried to crosscompile some of the opengl examples from the power vr sdk?
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