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IRC Log for 2011-06-01

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  9. [00:22:33] <MattTheGeek> quick question: whats the logic level on io pins?
  10. [00:26:09] <ds2> depending on the current state, high or low ;)
  11. [00:27:53] <MattTheGeek> voltage level*
  12. [00:28:44] <ds2> should be CMOS 1.8V ranges
  13. [00:28:47] <ds2> (IIRC)
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  15. [00:33:10] <MrCurious> pandaboard arrived. wonder if it is ok to run it without a wi-fi antenna.
  16. [00:37:38] <ds2> there should be an on board chip antenna
  17. [00:39:29] <MrCurious> ok
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  19. [00:41:57] <MrCurious> just found a 5v 1.2a wall wart
  20. [00:42:11] <MrCurious> the omap4 ubuntu nightly build is almost downloaded
  21. [00:43:10] <MrCurious> hdmi cable located
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  24. [00:46:50] <MrCurious> anyone want to save me reading and point to hte best ubuntu image for a rev A3 pandaboard so i can jsut start with wifi and x working
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  27. [00:52:16] <ZeZu> 10.10 netbook .... 11.04 may work out for you but I have some disgusting issues with it and omap4 ppa ( release && trunk )
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  29. [00:55:25] <MrCurious> zezu: does http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/current/ sound right?
  30. [00:57:47] <ZeZu> yes for the very latest
  31. [01:00:15] <MrCurious> excellent pre-cursed binaries :D
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  47. [02:06:12] <MrCurious> wish i would have thought ahead and downloaded a image. the waiting is killing me
  48. [02:07:08] <mscdex> MrCurious: i found 11.04 to be more stable/"complete" for me, despite the fact that there is only graphics acceleration driver support so far
  49. [02:07:35] <MrCurious> there is only graphics acceleration?
  50. [02:07:41] <mscdex> i won't be watching videos much with my board, so i'm not too concerned at the moment
  51. [02:08:03] <mscdex> MrCurious: from what i read yes, everything else is done through software atm
  52. [02:08:20] <MrCurious> got a link to that one mscdex? i cant find 11.04
  53. [02:09:24] <mscdex> MrCurious: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Pre-Built_Binaries
  54. [02:09:35] <MrCurious> ty
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  56. [02:10:44] <MrCurious> downloading now
  57. [02:19:38] <MrCurious> its booting
  58. [02:23:43] <MrCurious> resizing... please wait
  59. [02:23:52] <MrCurious> please wait seems to be the order of teh evening
  60. [02:25:48] <mscdex> heh
  61. [02:26:04] <mscdex> some people reported it failing during resize with some sd cards, but i didn't have any trouble
  62. [02:26:14] <MrCurious> so far, 5 minutes of blinking lights and the word ubuntu over and over
  63. [02:26:32] <MrCurious> this is a 20mb/s card
  64. [02:26:40] <MrCurious> i have a mouse pointer
  65. [02:26:49] <MrCurious> not a very high res one...
  66. [02:27:13] <mscdex> mine is only class 4, but it's 32gb
  67. [02:27:28] <mscdex> sandisk ultra II
  68. [02:27:31] <MrCurious> class 20 16gb
  69. [02:27:51] <mscdex> class 20? lol probably class 6
  70. [02:27:53] <MrCurious> well class 10, with 20mb/s speed
  71. [02:27:58] <mscdex> or that
  72. [02:28:27] <mscdex> i can't keep track of the latest sd tech
  73. [02:28:57] <MrCurious> i think sd ratings are laging behind capability
  74. [02:29:21] <MrCurious> still blinking
  75. [02:29:30] <MrCurious> still white mouse pointer on blue background
  76. [02:29:52] <MrCurious> in 540x480? overhdmi
  77. [02:30:16] <MrCurious> i wouldnt call it the blue screen of death, but maybe the blue screen of boredom
  78. [02:31:18] <mscdex> dunno, i tried my board on an hdmi tv instead of a dvi monitor when i installed and set up 11.04, where i got the full 1920x1080 resolution
  79. [02:31:30] <MrCurious> mouse moves all around screen, but buttons do nothing
  80. [02:32:28] <MrCurious> something does not feel right
  81. [02:32:39] <MrCurious> thinking a right click menu should be comming up
  82. [02:33:08] <MrCurious> just a lot of status1 and nothing
  83. [02:33:59] <MrCurious> maybe i should act all impatient and reset it
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  86. [02:37:28] <MrCurious> know the default root password for ubuntu?
  87. [02:38:07] <wmat> try root/root
  88. [02:38:18] <wmat> or root/<no password>
  89. [02:38:30] <MrCurious> tried those
  90. [02:38:35] <MrCurious> i think i got a bad install
  91. [02:40:10] <MrCurious> i get a nice background image that gets replaced by a blue screen
  92. [02:40:16] <ds2> ubuntu has no root pw
  93. [02:40:33] <MrCurious> think i will get a small kbd/mouse while 11.04 dl's
  94. [02:40:47] <ds2> there should be an account precreated
  95. [02:41:08] <mscdex> afaik there's only the one you set up during the installation phase
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  99. [03:17:56] <spikebike> ds2: heh, by default, right up till you say passwd root
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  101. [03:20:34] <ds2> yes
  102. [03:20:41] <ds2> that is a ubuntu-ism
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  109. [03:55:23] <MrCurious> i think i must have buggared teh burn
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  113. [04:20:10] <MrCurious> here goes 11.04
  114. [04:20:14] <MrCurious> resizing
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  118. [04:40:08] <MrCurious> now this is getting more fun
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  120. [04:44:57] <MrCurious> from the install procedure, i am starting to get the feeling that the SD cards are teh weak point of this platform
  121. [04:45:20] <MrCurious> if only they would have put a sata port on it
  122. [04:45:29] <mscdex> usb hdd!
  123. [04:45:32] <MrCurious> then we could drop a ssd on it
  124. [04:45:35] <MrCurious> yeah
  125. [04:45:37] <MrCurious> will have to do that
  126. [04:45:41] <MrCurious> can it boot off usb?
  127. [04:45:52] <prpplague> MrCurious: you can add eMMC via the expansion header
  128. [04:46:12] <MrCurious> whats emmc? and how much does it cost to get that
  129. [04:46:19] <mscdex> dunno, but you could always have just enough on your sd to boot, and everything else is on your usb hdd
  130. [04:46:53] <_av500_> emmc is a mmc card on a chip
  131. [04:47:15] <MrCurious> completely removing ubiquity? this feels work in progress
  132. [04:47:36] <ds2> so... who sells eMMC in singles? ;)
  133. [04:47:43] <_av500_> MrCurious: the omap4 has no sata port
  134. [04:47:55] <prpplague> _av500_: you got a favorite LED backlight driver?
  135. [04:47:55] <_av500_> so, no use to have it on the panda
  136. [04:48:06] <_av500_> prpplague: whatever the dsiplay has
  137. [04:48:18] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
  138. [04:49:36] <_av500_> we used to have a ccfl driver inthe past that when you put your finger on the coil self destructed
  139. [04:49:40] <_av500_> fun
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  141. [04:50:04] <MrCurious> looks like emmc is not available in one off's
  142. [04:50:26] <_av500_> indeed
  143. [04:50:33] <MrCurious> looks lik eits a memory module that talks through the SD port?
  144. [04:50:38] <_av500_> since few people can solder bga
  145. [04:50:42] <prpplague> MrCurious: you can get them, just gotta know where to look, otherwise, you can simply add another sd card slot or nand flash
  146. [04:50:51] <_av500_> MrCurious: its basically an sd card
  147. [04:50:52] <prpplague> _av500_: they have some eMMC eval boards now
  148. [04:50:57] <MrCurious> i have a usb ssd 2g
  149. [04:51:05] <MrCurious> but thats only 20mb/s
  150. [04:51:10] <_av500_> prpplague: in litle boxes with one edge cut off?
  151. [04:51:18] <MrCurious> no better than this sd theoetically
  152. [04:51:33] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
  153. [04:52:10] <prpplague> _av500_: never figured out why they picked such a terrible package for eMMC
  154. [04:52:13] <MrCurious> time to slap a patriot ssd into a usb enclosure i have laying around and see if it can power off the usb port
  155. [04:52:59] <_av500_> prpplague: i meant the sd card package :)
  156. [04:53:13] <prpplague> _av500_: yea, i know what you meant
  157. [04:53:23] <prpplague> _av500_: i was commenting the actual eMMC package
  158. [04:53:38] <_av500_> in fact, emmc can have 8 dat bits which is nice
  159. [04:53:43] <_av500_> data
  160. [04:53:58] <_av500_> like these mmcplus cards
  161. [04:54:37] <ds2> prpplague: you mean the 21343431209840923842190384092348093240932843092849231840923 balls?
  162. [04:54:57] <_av500_> 21 maybe
  163. [04:55:11] <prpplague> ds2: yea, and the fact that all the signals are on the inside pads
  164. [04:55:36] <ds2> prpplague: thought it was just me getting irked at that
  165. [04:57:08] <ds2> so, when is the 32G raw NAND flash expansion board for the animal boards coming out?
  166. [04:57:58] <prpplague> ds2: hehe, not on my list
  167. [04:58:18] <prpplague> ds2: do have a cpld for the sdmmc to convert to IDE
  168. [04:58:28] <_av500_> cool
  169. [04:58:30] <_av500_> send
  170. [04:58:36] <prpplague> ds2: trying to see what kind of performance i can get
  171. [04:58:50] <_av500_> maybe with a fast CF card...
  172. [04:58:51] <ds2> prpplague: and I thought I had you convinced NAND is a good thing ;)
  173. [04:59:27] <prpplague> ds2: hehe, maybe so, but it isn't financially practical for me to design a board with nand
  174. [04:59:50] <_av500_> prpplague: what driver?
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  176. [05:00:31] <prpplague> _av500_: mutant variation of the omap hsmmc
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  178. [05:02:32] <Govindraj> where can I get the bootloader source(gitweb) for pandaboard?
  179. [05:03:07] <prpplague> Govindraj: depends on the distro and such that you are working with
  180. [05:03:17] <prpplague> Govindraj: there are a number of sources
  181. [05:03:34] <prpplague> _av500_: basically its a variation on this project - http://www.retroleum.co.uk/electronics-articles/an-8-bit-ide-interface/
  182. [05:03:45] <Govindraj> i am trying to use ubuntu distro.. wondering where does the bootaladers come from
  183. [05:03:46] <prpplague> _av500_: just done in a cpld instead of discreats
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  185. [05:05:17] <_av500_> 8bit?
  186. [05:05:21] <xynix> hi , may i know how long usually the ubuntu (GUI) take to boot up ?
  187. [05:06:12] <prpplague> _av500_: yea, since the sdmmc is 8-bit, you have to write twice to latch 16-bit data
  188. [05:06:36] <prpplague> Govindraj: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git
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  190. [05:07:17] <MrCurious> finally a hdmi to dvi cable is located
  191. [05:11:56] <prpplague> ds2: got a favorite LED backlight driver?
  192. [05:11:57] <MrCurious> seems ubuntu does not like the hconn b port
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  195. [05:17:40] <ds2> prpplague: not a single one
  196. [05:17:58] <ds2> it depends on what resources I have
  197. [05:18:18] <ds2> i.e. if I have a 48V DC handle, it might be a 2N2222 in constant current config
  198. [05:18:44] <MrCurious> sigh, it isnt detecting monitors for ****
  199. [05:18:52] <prpplague> ds2: step up from +5v
  200. [05:19:02] <prpplague> ds2: need around 2.25W
  201. [05:19:16] <ds2> don't TI make drivers for that?
  202. [05:19:18] <prpplague> ds2: most of the ones i am finding right now are maxed out at around 2
  203. [05:19:23] <prpplague> ds2: yea
  204. [05:19:58] <prpplague> ds2: the TPS61040 is good up to 2W
  205. [05:20:03] <MrCurious> wireless working even if i cant get better than 640x480
  206. [05:20:08] <ds2> 2? hmmm let me do some math
  207. [05:20:45] <prpplague> ds2: the TPS61043 is good up to 2.5 but its only available in qfn
  208. [05:21:01] <ds2> there is a SOT23 part from ON
  209. [05:21:14] <ds2> but I gave up on looking for inductors
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  211. [05:23:08] <MrCurious> do i want the video port near the corner, or near the usb if i am connecting to a 1920x1080 computer monitor
  212. [05:23:15] <MrCurious> with ubuntu
  213. [05:23:26] <ds2> try both
  214. [05:24:11] <MrCurious> seems it has a hard preference for the port next to the usb
  215. [05:24:44] <dreamingduck> Is there anybody knows alsa audio driver works on froyo L27.10.2-P1?
  216. [05:25:57] <dreamingduck> It's seem to be work but I can't hear anysound!. pcm playback.
  217. [05:26:00] <prpplague> dreamingduck: yes it was working with the prebuilt images we posted
  218. [05:26:37] <dreamingduck> how about when i build the same versionL27.10.2-P1?
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  220. [05:27:44] <dreamingduck> I checked prebuilt image works good. but.... when i build the same version.. it fails.
  221. [05:27:56] <dreamingduck> I can't hear any sound.
  222. [05:29:22] <dreamingduck> so, I try to use amixer to change path. with alsa_amixer cset numid=3 120.
  223. [05:29:35] <prpplague> dreamingduck: i'd say that is a good indication that you probably have something misconfigured in your kernel
  224. [05:30:27] <dreamingduck> yes... I got it.
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  226. [05:30:57] <dreamingduck> then, where shoud I check?
  227. [05:31:00] <prpplague> ds2: you looked at the pixel qi display? that backlight on that thing is pretty high compared to what it replaces
  228. [05:31:56] <prpplague> dreamingduck: i'd make sure you have hdmi audio enabled, hdmi enabled, and that the omap SoC audio is enabled
  229. [05:32:35] <ds2> prpplague: not yet... the costs don't seem to meet what I want to do
  230. [05:32:38] <dreamingduck> yes, that's right.
  231. [05:32:51] <ds2> I can do transreflective displays cheaper and I can do eInk cheaper so
  232. [05:33:03] <prpplague> ds2: indeed
  233. [05:33:10] <prpplague> ds2: just a popular item
  234. [05:33:51] <prpplague> dreamingduck: then i'd boot up the working kernel and do a dump of the audio config, then boot your kernel and do the same
  235. [05:33:56] <prpplague> dreamingduck: compare the output
  236. [05:34:15] <ds2> prpplague: but I see as viable as your 32G NAND board
  237. [05:34:22] <dreamingduck> OK, thanks a lot.. I got it.
  238. [05:35:19] <prpplague> ds2: not really, lvds board doesn't use any BGA packages, and is pretty straight forward
  239. [05:35:37] <prpplague> ds2: doing a nand board would be pretty expensive
  240. [05:35:38] <ds2> prpplague: LVDS is easy... it is the pixelqi that I consider not worth it
  241. [05:35:48] <ds2> BGA is easy to deal with (relatively speaking)
  242. [05:35:54] <xynix> hi , may i know how to solve "an error occured while mounting" ?
  243. [05:35:55] <ds2> don't like them but...
  244. [05:35:58] <prpplague> ds2: not cost wise
  245. [05:36:19] <prpplague> ds2: bga for small production is too much hassle
  246. [05:36:59] <prpplague> xynix: you will have to give us some context, such as a boot log, kernel version , and what distro you are trying to use
  247. [05:37:49] <xynix> i m using 11.04 , 8gb SD kingston
  248. [05:37:50] <prpplague> ds2: i've been totally taken aback by the amount of LVDS sales we've done for beagle and panda
  249. [05:38:05] <ds2> prpplague: they reflow via toaster ovens just fine
  250. [05:38:16] <xynix> i have the message during the first boot
  251. [05:38:31] * prpplague is not standing over a toaster oven for 1000 pieces
  252. [05:38:49] <xynix> prpplague: may i know what probably is the problem ?
  253. [05:38:53] <ds2> prpplague: the folks I work with will do even 100 pieces of BGA just fine
  254. [05:38:58] <prpplague> xynix: can you paste the bootlog to pastebin?
  255. [05:39:01] <ds2> for a toaster oven, I was refering to 1-10 peices
  256. [05:39:08] <prpplague> ds2: at what rate?
  257. [05:39:47] <ds2> prpplague: not much more then stock SMT
  258. [05:39:54] <xynix> ok
  259. [05:39:55] <prpplague> ds2: for low cost boards, we've never found it feasible for anything less than 5k pieces
  260. [05:40:05] <MrCurious> 1280x1024 finally
  261. [05:40:13] <ds2> prpplague: what's low cost in your definition?
  262. [05:41:02] <prpplague> ds2: for most cases, total assembly for less than $25.00
  263. [05:41:38] <MrCurious> guessing "install omap4 addons" is something i should have done before judging performance...
  264. [05:41:51] <ds2> prpplague: my guys claim they can sub $25 assemblies with BGA. They rather a I stick with QFN but...
  265. [05:42:10] <ds2> but I donno what they will put in the fine print about yield ;)
  266. [05:42:26] <prpplague> ds2: yea, that has been our experience
  267. [05:42:36] <prpplague> ds2: plus the added cost and turn time for the pcbs as well
  268. [05:42:48] <xynix> prpplague: what is the default login for 11.04 ?
  269. [05:42:51] <ds2> prpplague: what pitch BGAs are you talking about?
  270. [05:43:06] <ds2> 0.4mm w/3/3 rules on the PCB?
  271. [05:43:29] <prpplague> ds2: yea, or 0.5mm
  272. [05:43:34] <ds2> ah
  273. [05:43:42] <prpplague> ds2: .65 with channels, or .8 is ok
  274. [05:43:53] <prpplague> ds2: but if we can do the board without, thats just better
  275. [05:44:09] <ds2> PCB cause is a bigger problem then assembly
  276. [05:44:33] <prpplague> ds2: i don't mind QFN, just makes doing the first couple of hand assembled ones a little more difficult
  277. [05:45:08] <ds2> prpplague: I find it cheaper to pay a guy to do the hand assembly rather then do it myself (cost vs time trade off)
  278. [05:45:41] <prpplague> ds2: yea, we have someone for that as well
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  280. [05:46:10] <ds2> but back to your backlight drive
  281. [05:46:13] <ds2> why not go discrete?
  282. [05:46:23] <ds2> and is it really 2.25W single channel?
  283. [05:46:38] <prpplague> ds2: the problem i find with hand assembly of some of the QFN's with center ground pads don't always get good connection
  284. [05:46:57] <ds2> prpplague: what are you using to assemble QFNs?
  285. [05:47:22] <prpplague> ds2: its three strings of 6 with a total of 2.04W
  286. [05:47:53] <ds2> prpplague: you could do 3 different drivers
  287. [05:47:56] <prpplague> ds2: we have a QFN tool from weller and a hot air station
  288. [05:48:05] <ds2> ewwww weller ;)
  289. [05:48:28] <prpplague> ds2: doing three adds cost and takes up pcb space
  290. [05:48:48] <ds2> prpplague: maybe... price out the inductor then check
  291. [05:49:14] <prpplague> ds2: yea i already looked for the TPS61042/43
  292. [05:49:19] <prpplague> ds2: pretty reasonable
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  294. [05:49:27] <ds2> really?
  295. [05:49:38] <av500> http://allmybase.com/2011/05/31/puias-arm-alpha-release/
  296. [05:49:49] <ds2> that's almost 500mA average
  297. [05:49:57] <ds2> on the input side
  298. [05:50:09] <ds2> peak current will give you a 1A or worse Vsat inductor
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  302. [05:52:34] <prpplague> ds2: yea i found a murata and a sumida
  303. [05:52:47] <prpplague> ds2: the murata is on the TI eval board
  304. [05:54:00] <ds2> prpplague: and they are reasonably priced?
  305. [05:54:49] <prpplague> ds2: yea, looks so
  306. [05:54:57] <MrCurious> feels like its a bit slugish, and cant work out why
  307. [05:56:22] <MrCurious> maybe the sd i have is not ideal
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  309. [05:58:36] <prpplague> ds2: the murata is $0.145 for 1k
  310. [06:00:02] <ds2> prpplague: that looks decent
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  312. [06:01:18] <prpplague> ds2: i'll wire up the eval board over the weekend to see what it looks like
  313. [06:01:29] <MrCurious> its not the system that feels slow, its the firefox...
  314. [06:01:50] <prpplague> ds2: did you have a look at the animal-lvds schematic?
  315. [06:02:20] <ds2> prpplague: nope. think you asked me that a few days ago and it was the same (is there a URL?)
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  317. [06:03:17] <prpplague> ds2: http://www.elinux.org/Animal_LVDS_Board#Design
  318. [06:04:06] <prpplague> ds2: i've made a change to support some 24-bit displays but not all
  319. [06:05:05] <ds2> why 18bit?
  320. [06:05:25] <ds2> one requirement I impose is 24bit for my boards
  321. [06:05:34] <prpplague> ds2: almost all of the lower cost displays are 18-bit
  322. [06:05:49] <prpplague> ds2: including the pixelqi
  323. [06:06:21] <MrCurious> no flash for pandaboard :(
  324. [06:06:26] <ds2> prpplague: that isn't making sense... I am seeing 24bit displays in the same price range as the 18bit ones
  325. [06:06:46] <av500> MrCurious: of course not
  326. [06:07:01] <prpplague> ds2: $12 for a 24-bit display?
  327. [06:07:12] <MrCurious> grrr, wanted to do a download speed test so i could point my finger at wifi speed
  328. [06:07:59] <ds2> yes but...
  329. [06:08:00] <ds2> ;)
  330. [06:08:29] <av500> 12$? they are ripping you off!!! :)
  331. [06:08:59] <prpplague> av500: yea thats in small qty of 1k
  332. [06:09:11] <prpplague> av500: i am sure you get better pricing
  333. [06:10:01] <prpplague> ds2: basically there two different schemes for 24-bit lvds support, you can't really support both without adding some serious logic
  334. [06:10:28] <ds2> prplague: I think you can do jumpers, IIRC
  335. [06:10:35] * av500 lols at omapdiscuss mailing list
  336. [06:10:42] <prpplague> ds2: 24 jumpers?
  337. [06:10:48] <ds2> sure
  338. [06:10:54] <ds2> I call them 0ohm resistors but sure
  339. [06:11:12] <av500> hmm, like an old AT clock display panel :)
  340. [06:11:24] <prpplague> ds2: not very practical for someone that doesn't solder
  341. [06:11:30] <av500> also add a turbo button
  342. [06:11:49] <ds2> prpplague: *nod* different market
  343. [06:12:22] <prpplague> ds2: got an example 24-bit lvds display you'd want to use?
  344. [06:12:54] <ds2> prpplague: not at liberty to disclose that at the moment
  345. [06:13:17] <prpplague> ds2: ahh
  346. [06:13:37] <av500> ds2: with all your secrecy I wonder how they let you on irc at all :)
  347. [06:14:21] <ds2> av500: so do I ;)
  348. [06:14:35] <MrCurious> its either ubuntu-firefox or the networking that is making it painfully unresponsive. could just be a bad version of ubuntu. guess i have to use several dists for a few weeks before i can be sure on teh cause of the un-responsive
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  350. [06:15:00] <MrCurious> but pages like cnn.com, foxnews.com, and msnbc.com make it horribly laggy
  351. [06:15:19] <av500> throwing distros at a problem is unlikely to fix it
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  354. [06:15:58] <ds2> but it is so much more fun
  355. [06:16:02] <prpplague> ds2: surprising thought, none of the companies that have purchased lvds boards have been using 24-bit, all have been 18-bit
  356. [06:16:43] <ds2> prpplague: with they way you have it wired, it isn't exactly an 18bit display for sw purposes
  357. [06:17:33] <prpplague> ds2: right it is 24-bit on the omap side, and 18-bit on the display side, basically the bottom two bits get dropped
  358. [06:17:40] <prpplague> ds2: thats standard procedure for lvds
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  360. [06:17:57] <ds2> not resource efficient
  361. [06:18:24] <abcdude> is the UI in pandroid hardware accelerated???
  362. [06:18:28] <prpplague> ds2: yea well, omap4 doesn't have 18-bit support
  363. [06:18:33] <ds2> ah
  364. [06:18:51] <prpplague> ds2: that was descoped from omap3
  365. [06:21:09] <prpplague> ds2: you see the masterimage PR and demo?
  366. [06:21:52] <av500> prpplague: dithering enabled?
  367. [06:22:58] <prpplague> av500: i haven't been enabling that
  368. [06:22:58] <ds2> nope
  369. [06:23:09] <ds2> i much rather see a low power O4 demo ;)
  370. [06:23:20] <prpplague> ds2: hehe, don't like 3D?
  371. [06:23:36] <ds2> no
  372. [06:23:42] <av500> prpplague: if its like the 3d of the 3DS, no
  373. [06:23:53] <ds2> I can do 3D on a spaceheater^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hx86
  374. [06:23:55] <prpplague> ds2: most likely won;t see that until ASP gets omap4
  375. [06:24:12] <prpplague> av500: no comparison
  376. [06:24:36] <ds2> there are lower power A9's around
  377. [06:24:53] <av500> yes, they are called A8 :)
  378. [06:25:15] <prpplague> ds2: hehe you said "O4 demo" not cortex-a9 , hehe
  379. [06:25:40] <ds2> prpplague: yes
  380. [06:25:58] <ds2> I wanted to see a low power demo with an O4 system
  381. [06:26:11] <av500> what is a low power demo?
  382. [06:26:14] <av500> board in off mode?
  383. [06:26:15] <ds2> but there are similiarly equiped A9's around with lower power (based on measured values)
  384. [06:26:36] <ds2> left at the descretion of demo designer
  385. [06:26:37] <av500> or Watts per gazzilion triangles?
  386. [06:26:56] <ds2> if it is an off mode demo, there will obviously be credibility reprecussions ;)
  387. [06:27:18] <ds2> but it might be fine as a starter
  388. [06:27:48] <abcdude> is the UI in pandroid hardware accelerated???
  389. [06:28:37] <prpplague> abcdude: it is suppose to be
  390. [06:29:13] <ds2> the UI's acceleration works best in a moving rocket ;)
  391. [06:30:19] <abcdude> yeah but android in itslef doesnt have gpu accleration ..
  392. [06:30:32] <abcdude> android (prior to 3.0)
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  400. [06:43:00] <newbie> yo~
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  402. [06:43:20] <MrCurious> i agree. enough for one night
  403. [06:43:37] <Guest46829> can i ask smthg here ?
  404. [06:44:05] <MrCurious> i think if you dont, you will never forgive yourself
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  407. [06:47:44] <mscdex> MrCurious: there is the gnash browser plugin for flash, but video playback is a little laggy
  408. [06:48:00] <mscdex> might be because there is no video acceleration yet in 11.04 for the pandaboard?
  409. [06:48:22] <av500> isnt html5 all the rage? and flash evil and such?
  410. [06:48:25] <MrCurious> i dont think its the browser that is causing the slowness i am feeling
  411. [06:48:45] <MrCurious> it feels like something in teh window manager is not behaving as responsive as it should
  412. [06:48:53] <av500> doing what?
  413. [06:49:08] <av500> browser renders pages, wm does nothing during that time
  414. [06:49:43] <MrCurious> i dont know, everything feels really sluggish on this ubuntu
  415. [06:49:57] <MrCurious> it could be that i am just expecting too much
  416. [06:50:21] <MrCurious> but its like it runs really fast, then it pauses to think, then runs fast
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  427. [07:25:42] <stm___> hi all
  428. [07:26:29] <stm___> which type of camera i can connect to pandaboard
  429. [07:26:43] <stm___> any sujjestion?
  430. [07:28:00] <LetoThe2nd> stm___: with or without effort?
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  432. [07:29:39] <stm___> ofcourse it is better for me to have both sujjestions
  433. [07:30:24] <av500> usb
  434. [07:30:34] <av500> or CSI-2
  435. [07:30:51] <LetoThe2nd> stm___: without effort: anything usb with a known good working linux driver.
  436. [07:30:56] <LetoThe2nd> stm___: with a little effort: anything usb without a known good working linux driver.
  437. [07:31:13] <LetoThe2nd> stm___: with effort: anything CSI-2
  438. [07:31:39] <LetoThe2nd> stm___: great service, eh? now you even have three suggestions, not only two :-)
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  440. [07:32:06] <stm___> yes . absolutely
  441. [07:32:11] <stm___> thank you
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  443. [07:34:01] <koen> av500: not CSI-NY?
  444. [07:35:17] <LetoThe2nd> koen: nope sary-ginise-bus is not yet supported. wath out for it on koalaboard.
  445. [07:36:14] <av500> LetoThe2nd: lol, lenovo buys medion
  446. [07:36:43] <LetoThe2nd> av500: yeah, seen it too.
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  448. [07:38:09] <av500> can't wait for the aldipad
  449. [07:38:12] <av500> "think cheaper"
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  451. [07:40:38] <LetoThe2nd> hehehe
  452. [07:42:16] <av500> and computex shows a couple of meego netbooks
  453. [07:42:25] <av500> let's see how they will do
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  455. [07:44:48] <koen> LetoThe2nd: with that board you can spend koala-ty time with embedded
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  462. [08:04:31] <LetoThe2nd> koen: hrhrhr
  463. [08:06:10] <koen> the internal tool to check for XDM compliance and stuff is called qualiTI
  464. [08:06:51] <LetoThe2nd> koen: XDM = eXtreme Dope Manufacturing? ;-)
  465. [08:10:39] * LetoThe2nd read a very interesting article yesterday about the drug excesses and scandals in early hollywood... if you ever thought ozzy and m??tley cr??e are hard, forget it ;-)
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  471. [08:43:52] <koen> LetoThe2nd: xdm is the TI standard interface for codecs and things
  472. [08:45:54] <LetoThe2nd> koen: ah dammit. but the guess was pretty close!
  473. [08:46:50] <koen> :)
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  475. [08:49:21] <av500> koen: the problem with qualiTI is that it is not enforced in china and india :)
  476. [08:49:58] <koen> av500: it's usage is relatively new
  477. [08:50:13] <koen> av500: we started running it on our codecs ??2 years ago
  478. [08:51:16] <LetoThe2nd> av500: "chain" as in process or as in "country" because mentioned together with india? ;-)
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  483. [09:05:51] <new_to_panda> hello, all, I am following this link, to build kernel for pandaboard: http://elinux.org/Panda_How_to_kernel_2_6_39rel, i git clone the source from git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git, and follow the instruction. but I am not getting the output on the display device. ?
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  486. [09:07:47] <Custumer> hello,
  487. [09:08:10] <av500> new_to_panda: where does that link mention ubuntu-oneiric.git??
  488. [09:08:42] <Custumer> http://pandaboard.org
  489. [09:09:08] <Custumer> i'd like to buy PandaBoard : First open OMAP4 mobile software development platform.
  490. [09:09:16] <av500> then buy it
  491. [09:09:18] <Custumer> do you have stock?
  492. [09:09:28] <av500> who?
  493. [09:09:41] <Custumer> hm, i do not have a idea.
  494. [09:09:45] <av500> do you see the large "Order now" button?
  495. [09:09:51] <Custumer> i did
  496. [09:09:55] <av500> then click it
  497. [09:10:00] <Custumer> but i can't buy that
  498. [09:10:45] <new_to_panda> av500: I want to run ubuntu with kernel 2.6.39, So i thought to take it from link :git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git, if its not the correct repository for pandaboard, av500: can you pls, provide the link for source code.
  499. [09:11:14] * av500 has no idea about ubnbbnttu
  500. [09:12:50] <new_to_panda> Can someone provides me the link to get the ubuntu kernel 2.6.39 source code for pandaboard?
  501. [09:13:21] <av500> #ubuntu-arm
  502. [09:15:37] <koen> I hope you don't need sgx or ducati
  503. [09:15:43] <koen> or cpufreq
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  506. [09:19:48] <new_to_panda> av500: can u provide me link to get 2.6.39 source code?
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  508. [09:20:26] * Topic is 'OMAP discussion & development on PandaBoard Platform | Site: http://www.PandaBoard.org | Paste @ http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/ |Wiki: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard | IRC logs: http://www.pandaboard.org/pbirclogs/'
  509. [09:20:26] * Set by prpplague!~danders@nat/ti/x-dhdrupnqudstvoyg on Mon May 16 15:39:28 UTC 2011
  510. [09:20:26] <new_to_panda> is it www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.39?
  511. [09:20:44] <koen> oh dear
  512. [09:20:54] * koen looked at the L24.13 branch
  513. [09:21:20] <av500> where?
  514. [09:27:53] <koen> http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-ubuntu-L24.13
  515. [09:28:04] <koen> that's L27 with some ubuntu sauce
  516. [09:29:19] <av500> koen: remind me, what was L24 again?
  517. [09:30:11] <av500> lol http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=commit;h=23f24f20b8f9d33b29350aa3898b99be43fe4610
  518. [09:30:34] <av500> reading die ID is hard...
  519. [09:32:27] <koen> av500: L24 was the non-android linux one
  520. [09:32:33] <koen> note the past tense :)
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  534. [10:26:52] <new_to_panda> i downloaded, linux-2.6.39-rc7.tar.gz from www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.39/, i applied patches given in link :http://elinux.org/Panda_How_to_kernel_2_6_39, but still there is no signal from my HDMI port , no display is coming, if someone can help me out, will be thankful
  535. [10:30:00] <av500> you applied a DVI patch, no?
  536. [10:30:04] <av500> HDMI != DVI
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  544. [10:56:38] <new_to_panda> av500: i applied 0001-omap4-pandaboard-fix-dvi-support.patch, also
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  548. [10:58:08] <new_to_panda> hey hey av500: got the display, u rocks, thanks thanks
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  550. [11:01:44] <av500> ???
  551. [11:02:36] * ogra_ scratches some moss from av500's surface
  552. [11:05:40] <geist> yay, new pandaboard in from digikey
  553. [11:06:20] <geist> rev A3... hmm, pandaboard.org doesnt mention it
  554. [11:06:53] <koen> A3, is that the one with broken dvi?
  555. [11:07:12] <geist> ah, one of the hdmi ports is busticated?
  556. [11:07:46] <geist> well, not gonna use it anyway
  557. [11:08:21] <geist> ah found it, it's the same as A2 but it has ES2.2 OMAP4 silicon
  558. [11:08:23] <geist> that's nice
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  560. [11:13:25] <aerligebent_> How to copy folders from makefiles - this works PRODUCT_COPY_FILES += \ test/firmware.bit:system/etc/wifi/firmware.bin but only on one file at a time
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  562. [11:15:51] <av500> aerligebent_: -> #android
  563. [11:16:04] <av500> or #android-porting
  564. [11:16:39] <aerligebent_> okay - thx
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  578. [12:16:58] <hitlin37_> ok....i'm getting...Suspending console on pandroid 10.2....how do i make it to wake up now
  579. [12:17:09] <av500> shout?
  580. [12:17:27] <florian> cold water! ;)
  581. [12:17:36] <av500> 12V
  582. [12:17:46] <hitlin37_> i kicked the mouse.....no response
  583. [12:18:01] <av500> not even a squeal?
  584. [12:19:13] <hitlin37_> nothing
  585. [12:19:32] <av500> the mouse is dead
  586. [12:19:58] <hitlin37_> although runs very smooth after i put sgx...but how do i keep it awake....
  587. [12:20:31] <av500> i guess it gets exhausted quikcly and needs to rest, all these triangles to render
  588. [12:21:26] <florian> it might be worth trying to tickle it
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  591. [12:23:52] <hitlin37_> http://pastebin.com/5D00A20M
  592. [12:24:13] <hitlin37_> goes to blank screen in 2 min
  593. [12:24:19] <hitlin37_> after boot
  594. [12:25:22] <av500> press the user button?
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  597. [12:25:54] <av500> ping robclark
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  599. [12:26:34] <robclark> av500, pong
  600. [12:26:38] <hitlin37_> nothing happens after pressing user button
  601. [12:30:18] <tonu> user should turn red!
  602. [12:30:22] <tonu> on this button press
  603. [12:34:30] <hitlin37_> if im using it ,it works fine.....if i leave it..it goes off to black screen..also where to get pak0.pak to play quake...
  604. [12:35:51] <av500> http://www.google.com/search?q=pak0.pak
  605. [12:36:08] <av500> hitlin37_: set the display timeout to unlimited
  606. [12:39:13] <hitlin37_> ok i set it to 30 mintutes....no unlimited option there
  607. [12:41:16] <hitlin37_> any omap4 based tab in computex?
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  616. [13:08:59] <hitlin37_> if i put my args in normal.cmd and make a boot.scr..why its not working.....giving same args during autoboot works http://pastebin.com/cNHL7hyc
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  618. [13:15:53] <shepard_> Hello people! :-)
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  620. [13:31:26] <hrw> did someone tried to boot pandaboard from rs-mmc or mmc card? thinner then SD one I mean
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  624. [13:34:54] <av500> hrw: whould work
  625. [13:35:05] <av500> hrw: should work
  626. [13:36:00] <shepard_> I can't buy pandaboard ((( I live in Russia. DigiKey doesn't work with it. Does anybody know what should I do?
  627. [13:36:20] <av500> do you have a friend outside of russia?
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  631. [13:36:23] <mru> steal one
  632. [13:36:50] <av500> a friend?
  633. [13:37:16] <shepard_> It's a peaty, no friends outside ((
  634. [13:37:18] <hybrid_mind> Does it make a significant difference having a Rev A2 board instead of a Rev A3 board?
  635. [13:37:25] <av500> hybrid_mind: no
  636. [13:37:41] <sauerbraten> av500, does it make a differnece at all?
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  638. [13:38:10] <av500> I trust TI to have changed at least something between 2.1 and 2.2 silicon
  639. [13:38:50] <av500> now, does it make a difference for you, I cannot say
  640. [13:39:00] <hybrid_mind> The only thing different was the 2.1 silicon instead of the 2.2, according to OMAPedia, but the errata show a bug with I2C that is fixed with the 2.2 and not in 2.1
  641. [13:39:20] <hybrid_mind> I plan on using I2C for some robotics applications, so I was wondering if using the Trainer XM expansion would remove that issue, as well
  642. [13:39:30] <sauerbraten> is the person writing the pandaboard article in the debian wiki hanging around in this channel? :) he apparently connects from the university of oldenburg in germany, maybe someone remembers him to join this channel?
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  665. [14:09:34] <xynix> hi all
  666. [14:10:46] <xynix> is there any solution if i get stuck during the resizing ?
  667. [14:10:55] <xynix> (at the first boot)
  668. [14:12:06] <mscdex> try a different sd card?
  669. [14:12:32] <xynix> are those sd issue ?
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  671. [14:12:48] <mscdex> possibly, there's a thread about it on the mailing list
  672. [14:12:54] <xynix> i see
  673. [14:13:07] <xynix> my sd is kingston 8gb class 10 sdhc
  674. [14:13:11] <mscdex> it worked fine for my card on the first try though, so not sure
  675. [14:13:19] <xynix> having this problem when resizing
  676. [14:13:29] <xynix> thank you for your confirmation
  677. [14:13:33] <av500> mscdex: I think that mailing list thread is also stuck
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  679. [14:14:00] <mscdex> eh?
  680. [14:14:09] <xynix> anyone solve this issue without replacing the SD ?
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  682. [14:14:17] <xynix> *solved
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  685. [14:20:46] <hrw> av500: looks like I need to repartition in to follow omap3/4 craziness
  686. [14:21:23] <av500> usual partitioning rules apply
  687. [14:21:32] <av500> there is nothing crazy
  688. [14:21:46] <av500> rom code is a bit overly pedantic, that is all
  689. [14:21:52] <koen> there's the cargo cult
  690. [14:21:55] <hrw> ;D
  691. [14:21:56] <av500> yeah
  692. [14:22:14] <hrw> ok.
  693. [14:22:20] <av500> let me find that launchpad bug thread again
  694. [14:22:26] <av500> that was so much fun to read
  695. [14:23:02] <koen> everything in launchpad is hilarious
  696. [14:23:09] <koen> it's a thinly disguised forum
  697. [14:23:34] <koen> but this week meego takes the cake for being stupid
  698. [14:23:39] <koen> armv8, sheesh
  699. [14:25:41] <hrw> armv8 in meego exists for quite long time
  700. [14:26:12] <koen> there's no such thing as armv8
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  702. [14:27:00] <hrw> I know
  703. [14:30:03] <hrw> fun. panda does not like rs-mmc from nokia770 ;(
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  707. [14:39:44] <hybrid_mind> What are some of the biggest complaints about the panda, perhaps in comparison to the beagle?
  708. [14:40:38] <LetoThe2nd> doesn't include free beer on delivery.
  709. [14:41:22] <LetoThe2nd> comparison to beagle: also doesn't include free. beer on delivery. therefore big complaint.
  710. [14:42:03] <hybrid_mind> No doubt, and it doesn't make sandwiches
  711. [14:42:25] <hybrid_mind> I do plan on fixing that latter problem, however
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  714. [14:46:43] <mru> hybrid_mind: try with sudo
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  719. [14:48:31] <hybrid_mind> mru: I will, definitely. I never got it working on OSX or Ubuntu on Intel architectures, but we'll see how it goes on the ARM when I get it
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  721. [14:49:27] <hybrid_mind> I found Rev A2's available for purchase, now I have to decide whether to get one of those now or wait 2-4 months for the Rev A3's to be in stock
  722. [14:49:51] <hrw> Panda # mmc rescan 0
  723. [14:49:51] <hrw> Card did not respond to voltage select!
  724. [14:49:53] <hrw> ha!
  725. [14:50:05] <av500> ha!
  726. [14:50:25] <LetoThe2nd> hrw: lol... i just misread you "card did not do voltage respect"
  727. [14:50:35] <hrw> new bug to report
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  731. [14:51:34] <av500> 12v will teach it respect!
  732. [14:52:21] <LetoThe2nd> in russia...
  733. [14:53:34] <hrw> LetoThe2nd: in russia they have tapes which drink water
  734. [14:53:45] <hrw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkx-LGTz2BY&feature=player_embedded
  735. [14:53:51] <LetoThe2nd> hrw: in russia, vodka drinks YOU.
  736. [14:54:24] <hrw> LetoThe2nd: in Poland vodka respects us
  737. [14:54:25] <av500> taps
  738. [14:54:33] <hrw> av500: right
  739. [14:54:36] <LetoThe2nd> hrw: hehe, great vid
  740. [14:54:42] * hrw is tired a bit
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  742. [14:54:50] <av500> well, for the water to come out of one tap, it has to go into another
  743. [14:55:29] <Ionic> Mmh, anyone seen theseven around lately?
  744. [14:55:42] <[7]> yea?
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  748. [14:57:55] <Ionic> Oh, damnit :p
  749. [14:58:09] <Ionic> [7]: I've heard you're good with CRDA
  750. [14:59:03] <[7]> you must be mixing me up with someone
  751. [14:59:16] <Ionic> Sure? :/
  752. [14:59:16] <av500> with [3+4] maybe
  753. [14:59:54] <[7]> i once helped debugging what seemed to be a CRDA issue but wasn't one actually, just by comparing dmesg output with mine
  754. [15:00:09] <Ionic> Oh, what was it exactly?
  755. [15:00:32] <Ionic> (I'm seeing a strange behaviour on my amd64 machine and have got no idea how to fix or at least debug this. As far as I was able to find out, CRDA is called once to update the world regdomain upon loading cfg80211, but that's it. Never returns, setting another regdomain fails as there is another update in progress etc.)
  756. [15:00:32] <[7]> the problem was actually a routing table metric issue
  757. [15:00:50] <mru> you'd entered it in imperial units?
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  759. [15:00:52] <Ionic> Ah I see, that's why he had to take the wired interfaces down
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  761. [15:01:22] <[7]> i'm afraid that I won't be able with real CRDA issues :)
  762. [15:01:27] <[7]> btw, are you i0n1c on twitter?
  763. [15:01:32] <Ionic> Nope, Ionic_
  764. [15:01:38] <Ionic> Seems like I'm the only one hitting this bug *sigh*
  765. [15:03:26] <Ionic> I've found another 3 occurences of this, though one was PEBKAC (he tried to change to the EU regdomain which was removed in favor for country based regdomains), the other occurence was fixed by building RFKILL as a module opposed to statically link it into the Kernel (WTF?) and the last one was fattire, having a routing problem only
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  768. [15:04:26] <av500> mru: the empire uses the metric system
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  770. [15:05:00] <mru> not for the important things, such as beer
  771. [15:05:09] <av500> "I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters."
  772. [15:05:16] <av500> :)
  773. [15:05:30] <mru> and for some reason 454g is a common weight
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  775. [15:05:39] <Ionic> "two yards" sounds weird
  776. [15:06:11] <av500> 6 feet
  777. [15:06:15] <av500> or 7
  778. [15:06:30] <Ionic> oh well, that's better, but 7 > 2
  779. [15:06:38] <av500> but, in a star wars universe, you'd ask "whose feet?" :)
  780. [15:06:40] <Ionic> so 2 is way more dramatic
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  782. [15:06:59] <Ionic> heh
  783. [15:07:04] <mru> I found an 8-foot spider in the bathroom this morning
  784. [15:07:18] <av500> I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're just a tiny fraction of a light year..."
  785. [15:08:52] <Ionic> Though nobody can imagine a light year
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  787. [15:09:25] <av500> last year was heavy for me...
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  791. [15:10:05] <Ionic> Do you redfine year as a weight?
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  813. [16:12:08] <packi> hi! my pandaboard is not booting anymore (Rev. A3), i see uboot coming up but stopping after "Using default environment" with no prompt... both LEDs are blinking continously multiple times a second... paste of uboot output: http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/29474415 any ideas?
  814. [16:14:35] <LetoThe2nd> packi: tried reflashing the sd card, respectively another one?
  815. [16:15:15] <packi> not yet, would have been my next step after asking here
  816. [16:15:40] <packi> but it seems that there's no way around that...
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  818. [16:16:05] <LetoThe2nd> obviously.
  819. [16:16:22] <packi> ok, let me reflash and try again... thanks!
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  824. [16:28:01] <Gravis> what is the maximum IO rate for the expansion GPIOs?
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  829. [16:42:42] <prpplague> Gravis: depends on what you are working with
  830. [16:42:59] <prpplague> Gravis: i'd have to look at the datasheet, but its usually under 1ms
  831. [16:43:16] <prpplague> Gravis: are you actually wanting gpios or something else?
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  833. [16:43:50] <Gravis> i have two cams and only one cam input. i was going to instead use the gpios for both
  834. [16:44:06] <prpplague> cams?
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  836. [16:44:09] <prpplague> Gravis: camera?
  837. [16:44:11] <Gravis> camera
  838. [16:44:29] <prpplague> Gravis: what is the interface on the camera?
  839. [16:45:19] <Gravis> sccb
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  841. [16:53:03] <prpplague> Gravis: sccb?
  842. [16:53:19] * prpplague is not familiar with that acronym
  843. [16:54:11] <Gravis> The Serial Camera Control Bus (SCCB) interface controls
  844. [16:54:11] <Gravis> the CAMERACHIP sensor operation. Refer to OmniVision
  845. [16:54:12] <Gravis> Technologies Serial Camera Control Bus (SCCB)
  846. [16:54:12] <Gravis> Specification for detailed usage of the serial control port.
  847. [16:54:33] <packi> LetoThe2nd: works again... sorry for the noise...
  848. [16:54:49] <Gravis> if you are asking about the data output, it's 10bits or raw data in parallel
  849. [16:55:42] <prpplague> Gravis: looks vaguely similar to i2c
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  851. [16:56:46] <prpplague> Gravis: looks like you should be able to use i2c
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  855. [16:57:51] <Gravis> prpplague: can it run at 18MB/s?
  856. [16:58:50] <prpplague> Gravis: no, but neither can the gpios
  857. [16:59:07] <Gravis> hmm... i need 2MB/s for each pin
  858. [16:59:24] <Gravis> prpplague: possible or not?
  859. [17:00:59] <prpplague> Gravis: possible but not practical
  860. [17:01:15] <prpplague> Gravis: i'd suggest using a cpld from the sd/mmc slot or via the gpmc
  861. [17:01:49] <Gravis> what do you mean?
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  863. [17:02:36] <prpplague> Gravis: add a CPLD to the expansion header
  864. [17:03:58] <prpplague> Gravis: you can then use a high speed interface such as the sd/mmc or the the gpmc
  865. [17:04:19] <Gravis> good news, i do have an FPGA :)
  866. [17:04:47] <Gravis> prpplague: you want it to convert the data into a sd/mmc or gpmc format?
  867. [17:06:09] <prpplague> Gravis: doesn't have to "format" just need the timing
  868. [17:06:21] <prpplague> Gravis: you can do it easily with something like a xilinx coolrunner
  869. [17:06:46] <Gravis> i'm using a xilinx spartan
  870. [17:07:02] <Gravis> unfortunately i dont have a jtag cable... yet. -_-
  871. [17:07:19] <Gravis> prpplague: but if you wanna help me out in that regard. :)
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  878. [17:36:47] <plm> Hi all
  879. [17:38:08] <orbarron> hello
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  881. [17:42:29] <koen> bah, I was thinking this pandaboard shutdown due to low power
  882. [17:42:38] <koen> turns out that I didn't turn on the LEDs
  883. [17:42:50] <koen> I've become too used to the heartbeat leds :)
  884. [17:42:50] <prpplague> koen: doh
  885. [17:43:11] * koen plugs in a networking cable to get leds from there
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  887. [17:44:24] <koen> prpplague: you'll like http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/systemd/panda-l24.13.svg
  888. [17:44:32] <koen> prpplague: userspace boot in 1 second
  889. [17:44:44] <prpplague> koen: oh nice
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  891. [17:44:49] <koen> with L24.13
  892. [17:45:01] <koen> the 11.04 kernel takes >8s for that same fs
  893. [17:45:12] <koen> something is really messed up in that .38 kernel
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  972. [22:51:50] <bjohn> has the audio line been tested on the panda
  973. [22:53:08] <bjohn> i am trying to get a loopback audio tested with mic input and speaker output
  974. [23:03:12] <robclark> http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard_FAQ#I_am_not_able_to_record_Audio_using_Mic-in.3F
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  980. [23:36:45] <ZeZu> Are there any public images for panda w/ a recent kernel / sgx driver ? Having issues abs. everywhere, ubuntu maverick was probably the most usable ...
  981. [23:38:46] <robclark> ZeZu, I think linaro kernel has new DRM/KMS driver.. assuming there are also sgx package to go along with, that would be your best bet..
  982. [23:39:14] <robclark> I still need to check if there has been any improvements in hdmi driver to backport, but dvi driver has been pretty reliable for me
  983. [23:39:33] <robclark> and edid parsing in drm core is somewhat better than the old stuff in hdmi driver
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  985. [23:43:48] <ZeZu> I was looking at linaro quite a bit in generaly, just don't have time to get lost in making a good image, I seem to run into every issue there is .. I can never get raw EGL working, or shaders won't compile , angstrom that narcissus spit out is broken in various places :|
  986. [23:44:28] <robclark> by raw EGL, do you mean null window system (no X11?)
  987. [23:44:31] <ZeZu> yes
  988. [23:44:57] <robclark> oh.. hmm, I don't think that is supported.. or at least you'd need a different build of the userspace bits
  989. [23:45:50] <ZeZu> I had everything working nicely on my beagle but I managed to fry it somehow
  990. [23:45:52] <robclark> the shader compiler issue sounds like a bug that has been fixed.. but not sure when the last time the sgx packages have been updated
  991. [23:46:16] <robclark> angstrom/narcissus, I have no idea about, ask koen ;-)
  992. [23:46:40] <ZeZu> I tried the ppa/trunk stuff and still had the same bug w/ the compiler
  993. [23:46:46] <ZeZu> yea i haven't seen him today
  994. [23:47:01] <ZeZu> err my eyes are bad obv.
  995. [23:47:47] <ZeZu> I see he's just not in #angstrom
  996. [23:51:49] <robclark> hmm, any idea the date of last sgx packages?
  997. [23:52:07] <robclark> (or I'm not sure if there is a way to trace back to commit-id.. maybe rsalveti knows)
  998. [23:53:12] <rsalveti> robclark: from omap-trunk it's quite new
  999. [23:53:28] <rsalveti> https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/omap-trunk
  1000. [23:53:36] <rsalveti> 1.7.5.0+git20110520+95685747.1-1
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  1002. [23:55:25] <robclark> looks like last shader related fix was end of april..
  1003. [23:55:56] <robclark> so assuming you pulled from ti_1.7 before last build, I guess you should have all known fixes..
  1004. [23:55:59] <ZeZu> I've definitely used release and trunk, and release worked on maverick but not natty
  1005. [23:56:52] <robclark> hmm, odd... but I guess the maverick version is all 1.6.x based stuff?
  1006. [23:56:56] <ZeZu> didn't try trunk on maverick but did on natty, still pixel shader compile failure... I will debug it more if i put natty back on
  1007. [23:57:37] <rsalveti> omap/trunk on maverick uses 1.7
  1008. [23:57:43] <rsalveti> omap/release for maverick uses 1.6
  1009. [23:57:52] <robclark> ok.. if it is possible to isolate the shader and reproduce the error with a simple test program, it would be good to send to panda list and I'll fwd it to someone who could look into it
  1010. [23:57:57] <robclark> rsalveti, ahh, ok
  1011. [23:58:18] <rsalveti> please try natty + omap/trunk
  1012. [23:58:24] <rsalveti> and report back against it
  1013. [23:58:32] <rsalveti> people should be more used to it internally
  1014. [23:58:38] <ZeZu> I did
  1015. [23:59:17] <ZeZu> Give me a few let me reboot and put natty's kernel back on sd card and debug exactly what it doesn't like about the shader .... it may just by syntax
  1016. [23:59:27] <robclark> ok
  1017. [23:59:28] <ZeZu> its not a file, it loads from memory
  1018. [23:59:38] <robclark> hmm, ok
  1019. [23:59:45] <ZeZu> appreciate the help guys, going to pull hair out hehe
  1020. [23:59:51] <robclark> ok.. I'm heading out.. will be back online in a bit
  1021. [23:59:59] <ZeZu> ok

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