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IRC Log for 2011-02-24

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  67. [05:58:52] <huypham> hello world!
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  70. [06:03:29] <huypham> can anyone help me getting ubuntu running on pandaboard?
  71. [06:07:54] <dm8tbr> I thought that was a very well described process by now?
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  73. [06:09:31] <kopczynski3alex> hello
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  75. [06:11:31] <huypham> I follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall but the monitor stay blank
  76. [06:17:40] <huypham> I could setup a minicom and see U-boot display but it repeated many times , the monitor displays nothing
  77. [06:23:11] <huypham> do i need to partition SD card before burn ubuntu image to it?
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  94. [08:11:57] <Mikkel> does anyone know of a camera board compatible with the pandaboard?
  95. [08:14:02] <spikebike> there seems to be plans for one compatible with the expansion connector
  96. [08:14:13] <spikebike> but in the mean time I believe a linux compatible usb cam is likely to work
  97. [08:14:20] <spikebike> with that said I don't have a pandaboard to be sure
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  99. [08:18:03] <Mikkel> thanks, that is likely to be the easiest to start with anyways, do you by any chance know if h264 encoder (HW accel) for the omap4 is freely available?
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  102. [08:21:56] <LetoThe2nd> i think they are available as in free beer, bt not as in free speech. IIRC
  103. [08:22:53] <spikebike> what do you mean by hardware accel?
  104. [08:23:20] <spikebike> I thought the hardware accel/SIMD stuff for arm was Neon and that omap4 didn't have neon
  105. [08:23:42] <LetoThe2nd> spikebike: nah, the omap4 has a dsp core glued to it.
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  107. [08:24:13] <LetoThe2nd> but the details are NDAed, AFAIK.
  108. [08:24:15] <spikebike> ah
  109. [08:24:22] <koen> omap4 has 2 neon cores, 1 mini64, ducati and ivahd
  110. [08:24:27] <spikebike> yuck/sad
  111. [08:24:37] <spikebike> keon ah, cool.
  112. [08:24:41] <koen> LetoThe2nd: the TRM is available without NDA
  113. [08:24:46] <spikebike> oh, I think I was thinking of the tegra 2
  114. [08:24:56] <spikebike> tegra 2 = no neon
  115. [08:25:04] <spikebike> (I think)
  116. [08:25:13] <LetoThe2nd> koen: yeah, but not for DSP parts? or is my memory wrong here?
  117. [08:27:52] <spikebike> small paste:
  118. [08:27:54] <LetoThe2nd> koen: omap4430 TRM (SWPU231K – July 2010 – Revised September 2010, page 1069
  119. [08:27:54] <spikebike> While all Cortex A8 designs incorporated ARM’s NEON SIMD engine, A9 gives you the option of integrating either a SIMD engine (ARM’s Media Processing Engine, aka NEON) or a non-vector floating point unit (VFPv3-D16). NVIDIA chose not to include the A9’s MPE and instead opted for the FPU.
  120. [08:28:31] <LetoThe2nd> there it says: DSP Subsystem: This information is not available in the public domain.
  121. [08:29:29] <Mikkel> yeah i was hoping for the DSP powered encoder on the omap to be available as in 'free beer'
  122. [08:29:43] <koen> it's a c64x cut in half
  123. [08:29:59] <koen> the compiler tools list the differences in their changelogs
  124. [08:30:10] <LetoThe2nd> Mikkel: go hunting for omap4430 sdk or something the like on ti's homepage, then.
  125. [08:30:12] <spikebike> Mikkel: er, don't the 2 neon cores count as in free beer hardware accel?
  126. [08:31:44] <Mikkel> i'm not to familar with arm architecture, are the neon's are separate core's from the rest of ARM cpu's?
  127. [08:32:36] <LetoThe2nd> Mikkel: AFAIK not. and... are you maybe german?
  128. [08:33:19] <spikebike> Mikkel: sounds like a SIMD extension, so not really seperate cores
  129. [08:33:58] <Mikkel> Danish... thanks was guessing neon was comparable to SSE on x86
  130. [08:34:17] <spikebike> http://www.arm.com/products/processors/technologies/neon.php
  131. [08:34:32] <LetoThe2nd> Mikkel: ah. don't know if there's a danish equivalent for the german "deppenapostroph".
  132. [08:42:06] <Mikkel> LetoThe2nd: there probably is... deppenapostroph = '?
  133. [08:44:21] <LetoThe2nd> Mikkel: not exactly. a "deppenapostroph" is a normal apostroph placed before the plural as by those who don't know better (german derogatery: deppen) - and its semantical and syntactical nonsense. hence: deppenapostroph :-) if you were german, i would have recommended you google it up :-)
  134. [08:44:32] <LetoThe2nd> s/plural as/plural s/
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  136. [08:46:10] <hrw> spikebike: iirc cortex-A chips have VFPv3 (d16 or d32) always and NEON is optional
  137. [08:46:17] <hrw> spikebike: it is not VFP or NEON
  138. [08:47:50] <Mikkel> LetoThe2nd: I suck at grammar in any language including danish... but code pretty well ; )
  139. [08:48:11] <spikebike> hrw ah, that was from: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4144/lg-optimus-2x-nvidia-tegra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/4
  140. [08:48:50] <hrw> ;d
  141. [08:49:11] <spikebike> they seem kinda clued, or at least they talks to at least someone at nvidia and qualcom
  142. [08:49:15] <Mikkel> seems i'm looking for the public availability of libraries+firmware for IVA3 accelerator in OMAP4
  143. [08:49:21] <spikebike> but yeah not surprising they might have gotten details wrong
  144. [08:49:39] <LetoThe2nd> Mikkel: well maybe you are willing to take it as a hint. :-) it's just that sentences like "are the neon's are separate core's from the rest of ARM cpu's" give me goosebump, and that not in a positive way :P <set grammar_nazi_mode="off"/>
  145. [08:49:57] <LetoThe2nd> anyways, BBIAB.
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  149. [08:56:44] * spikebike wonders if the 300-350 week rate of motherboard production is holding
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  151. [09:04:38] <a7r> spikebike: what does the magic 8 ball say?
  152. [09:06:15] <spikebike> ask again
  153. [09:06:22] <a7r> :(
  154. [09:13:47] <Da|Mummy> its not if circuitco is building them
  155. [09:14:25] <spikebike> oh?
  156. [09:15:07] <Da|Mummy> us openpandora people have been struggling with them for 3 years, and just now are they pumping board out
  157. [09:15:39] <spikebike> yeah heard that the production was really low but in the last 2 weeks had ramped up to 300-350 a week
  158. [09:15:44] <a7r> hah
  159. [09:16:02] <spikebike> of course there were potential problems with the new higher rate running out of some other qty constrained part
  160. [09:18:19] <Da|Mummy> so how much are these panda board things? and if i were to order one now, how long would i have to wait? and whats a good case for one?
  161. [09:20:23] <LetoThe2nd> 174USD, usually ~8weeks.
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  163. [09:20:49] <Da|Mummy> hmm, looks like youre in no better boat than openpandora
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  192. [11:51:08] <unforgiven512> Anyone around?
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  227. [14:20:23] <ceyusa> has the pandaboard an internal battery for the system clock?
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  230. [14:22:57] <Bobby> Hi
  231. [14:23:11] <Bobby> An
  232. [14:23:16] <Bobby> anybody here ?
  233. [14:23:24] <bunk> no
  234. [14:23:39] <Bobby> funny
  235. [14:24:02] <adisbladis> Bobby: Never. We are just idle all the time.
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  237. [14:25:11] <Bobby> so does u guys know when it will be possible to buy a pandaboard ?
  238. [14:25:37] <LetoThe2nd> Bobby: we know.
  239. [14:25:55] <bunk> Bobby: you can buy now
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  243. [14:30:05] <Bobby> yeah the backorder
  244. [14:30:18] <Bobby> how long i'll have to wait ?
  245. [14:30:41] <LetoThe2nd> ATM ~8weeks, give or take some.
  246. [14:33:09] <Bobby> damn
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  248. [14:33:19] <Bobby> thanks for the answer
  249. [14:33:37] <Bobby> bye
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  263. [15:52:30] <Luca256> hi all
  264. [15:52:50] <Luca256> I installed the daily preinstalled images of natty on my panda
  265. [15:53:02] <Luca256> it seems to work, but I only have console access
  266. [15:53:15] <Luca256> so I need to know what is the default username/passwd to use :D
  267. [15:55:30] <Luca256> if there is such a thing, of course
  268. [15:56:56] <jayabharath> I dont remember it clearly.. try username: ubuntu
  269. [15:57:07] <jayabharath> password : no password
  270. [15:57:15] <rsalveti> Luca256: if you got the official pre-installed one you should create your own
  271. [15:57:18] <ogra> preinstalled doent have a user
  272. [15:57:19] <rsalveti> by using an external monitor
  273. [15:57:31] <Luca256> crap
  274. [15:57:37] <jayabharath> ogra: oh I right.. now I remember
  275. [15:57:38] <ogra> you need to create it on second boot (after the resizing happened)
  276. [15:57:49] <Luca256> jayabharath: I tried ubuntu and ubuntu as passwd and also with no passwd
  277. [15:58:02] <rsalveti> Luca256: our minimal image should be around soon
  278. [15:58:10] <Luca256> ok
  279. [15:58:13] <rsalveti> that will probably work with serial only, in case you need
  280. [15:58:24] <Luca256> I only need serial :)
  281. [15:58:25] <ogra> yeah, within the next week
  282. [15:58:34] <rsalveti> oh, janimo is not at this channel
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  284. [16:00:05] <Luca256> I'll have to do some hacking
  285. [16:00:22] <RobotGuy> Will the next rev of PandaBoard come with expansion connectors already soldered in?
  286. [16:00:24] <Luca256> let's see if my beagle debian rootfs works :D
  287. [16:00:47] * RobotGuy uses a BeagleBoard-xM currently
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  290. [16:09:57] <nhg> ping
  291. [16:10:21] <nhg> sorry
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  301. [16:40:32] <jayabharath> RobotGuy: we did not put them in on as each of us would like to use the expansion header differently....
  302. [16:41:10] <jayabharath> atm not planning to populate the expansion headers.... is this creating some trouble for you? Please clarify
  303. [16:42:50] * jayabharath needs to log off for a bit.. will be back in an hr..
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  320. [17:24:52] <prpplague> wmat: you stuff went out yesterday
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  322. [17:26:11] <prpplague> fyi, tomorrow is the last day to provide feedback for rev2 of the Trainer Board for use with the Beagle and Panda boards : http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
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  325. [17:36:58] <wmat> prpplague: yeah, i got the UPS notice. Thanks, that's awesome!
  326. [17:37:12] <koen> prpplague: maybe use arduino compatible connectors so you can plugin shields
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  329. [17:37:19] <koen> or whatever they call them
  330. [17:37:29] <prpplague> koen: yea that one has come up a couple of times
  331. [17:38:01] <prpplague> koen: we thought about having another small pcb that you could solder in place to make the headers the same
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  333. [17:40:34] <prpplague> koen: you can easily wire this into the trainer - http://www.sparkfun.com/products/7914
  334. [17:44:03] <prpplague> koen: you trying to use off the shelf shields with the trainer?
  335. [17:45:31] <RobotGuy> Could you just add arduino shield headers where the shield would mount above the Atmega?
  336. [17:47:18] <prpplague> RobotGuy: i am sorry i did not understand your statement
  337. [17:48:47] <RobotGuy> prpplague: Have arduino shield compatible headers that allow the shields to mount above the Atmega on the Trainer.
  338. [17:49:33] <prpplague> RobotGuy: if i understand your statement correctly, 1) there is no room to do that, 2) that would require massive rework of the board
  339. [17:49:50] <ds2> that post about the tegra is funny.
  340. [17:50:07] <prpplague> ds2: something on pandaboard list?
  341. [17:50:09] <ds2> someone ought to read the kernel source before hand
  342. [17:50:25] <ds2> prpplague: yes. the thread about how tegra is more available, etc...
  343. [17:50:38] <RobotGuy> prpplague: I think you understand now. Hmmm, might have to see if my partner is interested in working on a similar board. :)
  344. [17:51:59] <ds2> enough amusement for one morning
  345. [17:52:14] <RobotGuy> ds2 is everywhere. :)
  346. [17:52:32] <ds2> better then a plague
  347. [17:52:36] <ds2> j/k ;)
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  350. [17:56:24] <prpplague> RobotGuy: similar to the trainer? or similar to a shield add on?
  351. [17:56:56] <RobotGuy> prpplague: Similar to the Trainer.
  352. [17:57:51] <prpplague> RobotGuy: so you'd want to a different board just for the arduino headers?
  353. [17:58:29] <prpplague> RobotGuy: btw, we are include fixes for the uart to make it easier to use seperately
  354. [17:58:40] <RobotGuy> prpplague: Yes for that, but other differences too. I'm still thinking about it all.
  355. [17:59:31] <RobotGuy> prpplague: I still think making the UARTs jumperable would be the best way to go.
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  357. [18:01:18] <RobotGuy> prpplague: Position A jumpered = UARTs connected. Position B (Atmega) goes to header pins. Position B (Beagle) goes to header pins. All at appropriate levels of course. :) Probably too much to ask for.
  358. [18:01:41] <prpplague> RobotGuy: we have a heck of a time communicating
  359. [18:01:52] <prpplague> RobotGuy: btw, we are include fixes for the uart to make it easier to use seperately
  360. [18:02:12] <RobotGuy> prpplague: I never did understand that communication thing.
  361. [18:02:34] <RobotGuy> prpplague: I understand you said fixes, but not what fixes. :)
  362. [18:02:47] <prpplague> RobotGuy: the ones you asked for
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  364. [18:03:44] <RobotGuy> prpplague: Oh, OK! Sorry about the misunderstanding. :) That will indeed be very find and I could use Trainer the way I need to use it. :D
  365. [18:06:23] <RobotGuy> prpplague: I'm interested mostly in TTL levels for the UARTs. Not sure what others might want. :)
  366. [18:08:02] <ds2> RobotGuy: what exactly are you calling TTL levels?
  367. [18:09:14] <RobotGuy> ds2: 5V TTL levels like what a Lynxmotion SSC-32 would require.
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  369. [18:10:35] <ds2> So, 0.8 max for a low and 2.0V min for a high?
  370. [18:10:48] <ds2> or do you mean 5V CMOS levels? :D
  371. [18:12:07] <RobotGuy> I don't know what the actual levels are, sorry. Don't confuse me. :P
  372. [18:13:43] <RobotGuy> I still like the idea of getting a PandaBoard. It has some features I really like, such as built-in wireless. It can run Ubuntu, which I get along very well with. :)
  373. [18:13:49] <ds2> RobotGuy: =) the last I guy talked to who ignored this stuff had to had hundrededs of boards reworked ;)
  374. [18:14:53] <RobotGuy> ds2: Not trying to ignore anything. I just don't know the actual levels the SSC-32 requires for its TTL UART. It is jumperable between TTL and RS-232.
  375. [18:17:11] <ds2> time to get my day started as I have to make !$;2R#@!$@#!@$!@ hardware store run to get 4-40 fasteners for the beagle's so called beagle compatible footprint ;)
  376. [18:17:28] <ds2> s/beagle's/panda's/
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  379. [18:35:39] <sakoman> quit
  380. [18:35:59] <sakoman> sigh, wrong window :-)
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  382. [18:38:29] <prpplague> sakoman: no you can't quit
  383. [18:38:35] <prpplague> sakoman: we own your soul
  384. [18:38:51] * prpplague pictures sakoman dressed as Spawn
  385. [18:39:10] <evt> some of us dont have souls(sold them actually)
  386. [18:39:26] * sakoman doesn't know how Spawn dresses
  387. [18:40:30] <prpplague> sakoman: come on! never heard of Spawn? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_%28comics%29
  388. [18:41:16] <sakoman> prpplague: no, I am culturally deprived!
  389. [18:41:31] <prpplague> s/culturally/comic
  390. [18:41:32] <sakoman> perhaps I am just too old -- wrong demographic
  391. [18:41:47] * prpplague thinks sakoman just pretends to be a computer nerd
  392. [18:41:51] <sakoman> prpplague: perhaps both :-)
  393. [18:42:05] <sakoman> prpplague: oh, there is no doubt about that!
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  395. [18:48:35] <joshc_> hey guys, quick question. Does the pandaboard hardware validation image include a dhcp client? (random question, I know)
  396. [18:49:03] <prpplague> joshc_: yes, udhcpc
  397. [18:49:20] <joshc_> prpplague: cool, thanks. I'm assuming its part of busybox?
  398. [18:50:11] <prpplague> joshc_: udhcp was merged into busybox for a short period, but it was broken back out again into seperate page
  399. [18:50:27] <joshc_> prpplague: ah, okay. thanks for your help!
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  401. [18:56:30] <ds2> sakoman: ping?
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  411. [19:08:42] <sakoman> ds2: pong
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  425. [19:29:37] <fengjian> Has anyone make QT work on panda board with SGX enabled?
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  432. [19:35:29] <prpplague> pmathews: ping
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  436. [19:40:18] <rsalveti> fengjian: yes, just need to build qt with gles support
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  452. [19:51:57] <Luca256> yay, managed to install debian on my panda :)
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  455. [19:53:55] <guerby> armin76, I'd like to try gentoo on the farm pandaboard
  456. [19:54:06] <jayabharath> sl0pe: opencl drivers are not yet available .. my guess is it might be 2H11 when they might be available in some form to the public... (note these are not offical dates from TI).. I need to check internally
  457. [19:54:08] <guerby> armin76, do you have a SD image somewhere?
  458. [19:56:27] <armin76> guerby: hrm...no, i have an install guide, you know, install install install :)
  459. [19:57:17] <guerby> armin76, ok will look at it together with the sh board over the week-end
  460. [19:57:37] <guerby> no one seem to have a fix for the freeze issue so let's try gentoo :)
  461. [19:57:48] <prpplague> farm pandaboard? is that one that is muddy and smells of hay?
  462. [19:57:52] <armin76> you know i can reproduce it as well :)
  463. [19:57:59] <guerby> armin76, ah ok
  464. [19:58:24] <guerby> armin76, do you have an idea on what triggers it? network activity?
  465. [19:58:26] <rcn-ee> guerby, any luck with seting? vm.min_free_kbytes = 8192
  466. [19:58:41] <armin76> guerby: no idea, sorry
  467. [19:58:43] <armin76> blame prpplague
  468. [19:58:52] <sl0pe> jayabharath: thanks
  469. [19:59:36] <prpplague> freeze issue?
  470. [20:00:19] <guerby> rcn-ee, no I did not try that
  471. [20:00:22] <prpplague> armin76: there something posted about this issue?
  472. [20:00:59] <guerby> rcn-ee, I will try again, but before this setting I was getting a lockup in 15 minutes and you were not getting any lockup so I'm not optimistic ...
  473. [20:00:59] <rcn-ee> guerby, so far it's stopped all the kevent2 errors from the smsc95xx and i get less oom errors in the gcc testsuite..
  474. [20:01:17] <guerby> rcn-ee, right but even without this setting you never got any lockup right?
  475. [20:01:42] <rcn-ee> well it would stall/recover.. which your's wouldn't..
  476. [20:02:07] <armin76> prpplague: yep
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  478. [20:02:24] <armin76> sec
  479. [20:02:30] <prpplague> armin76: url
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  483. [20:02:40] <armin76> lol
  484. [20:02:42] <prpplague> doh wrong X
  485. [20:02:44] <armin76> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/690370
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  488. [20:02:50] <guerby> rcn-ee, ok may be it's a borderline hardware issue and for some reason your board doesn't have the issue
  489. [20:03:01] <prpplague> armin76: oh thats why i've not heard of it, hehe
  490. [20:03:13] <guerby> rsalveti, jayabharath any feedback from TI on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/690370 ?
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  492. [20:04:09] <rcn-ee> guerby, my board is one of the first production A1 unit's... i'm probally running a different xlo/u-boot.. (both mainline instead of from ubuntu's repo..)
  493. [20:04:29] <prpplague> guerby: thats not something we would have tested as part of the pandaboard team
  494. [20:04:41] <armin76> prpplague: http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/stream_bench.txt
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  496. [20:04:58] <prpplague> armin76: thanks, looking
  497. [20:05:47] <armin76> prpplague: fyi the kernel i'm runnin on the pandaboard is from ubuntu's maverick, ie, doesn't have mru's l2 patch
  498. [20:06:20] <prpplague> armin76: interesting
  499. [20:06:38] <armin76> and its an ea1, obviously
  500. [20:07:00] <Ben_> hi all, i'm new here and to pandaboard (just started working with it yesterday) and as lame as it sounds i'm having trouble getting through the quick start guide
  501. [20:07:26] <prpplague> Ben_: which quick start guide and at what step are you having trouble?
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  503. [20:10:07] <Ben_> i'm going through the ubuntu setup and i'm stuck i guess on step 5, the trouble is that by default the serial command prompt seems to be disabled, and the DVI display doesn't seem to be working i'm guessing because the hdmi port is the default
  504. [20:11:02] <prpplague> Ben_: is there a reason you are using the dvi port instead of the hdmi port?
  505. [20:11:45] <Ben_> yes, unfortunately, my monitor only has dvi and vga, and the cables we went out and bought were dvi
  506. [20:12:10] <Ben_> i really dont need the monitor though, all i need to get up and running is a shell and network connectivity
  507. [20:12:48] <prpplague> Ben_: i am sorry i did not understand your statement, you do know that you can use a DVI monitor on the HDMI port of the pandaboard?
  508. [20:14:10] <Ben_> oh sorry, no i didn't i had tried it before with the validation image and it didn't seem to work but it is for ubuntu
  509. [20:15:17] <Ben_> that was stupid, but thanks for the help!
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  535. [21:04:06] <rsalveti> guerby: well, they could reproduce with linaro 38 one, so no progress it seems
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  537. [21:04:30] <rsalveti> interesting that rcn-ee is not having this issue, it seems
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  543. [21:07:29] <rcn-ee_at_work> rsalveti, it's very odd, since mine runs the gcc/build/test just fine, on basicly a mainline kernel..
  544. [21:07:38] <rsalveti> yeah..
  545. [21:07:49] <rsalveti> and we're using the upstream x-loader and upstream u-boot
  546. [21:08:06] <rsalveti> and at least brian would even reproduce it with upstream
  547. [21:08:11] <rsalveti> don't know if it could be board related
  548. [21:08:14] <rcn-ee_at_work> me too.. i used the new upstream x-loader, and v2010.12 of u-boot..
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  552. [21:19:02] <guerby> rsalveti, ok thanks for the update
  553. [21:19:15] <rsalveti> we want and need this bug fixed
  554. [21:19:18] <rsalveti> but still, no clues
  555. [21:19:30] <rsalveti> even now that we're starting our build farm
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  572. [22:12:17] <xxiao> my pandaboard ordered on 12/23/10 was shipped today, there is hope
  573. [22:12:34] <xxiao> two months of waiting, not too bad
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  584. [22:56:56] <KC9SJQ> Seems about the average
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  586. [22:59:18] <orbarron> woohoo.. got a working Android rootfs :D -- need to test some more features before I push this out
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