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IRC Log for 2011-01-05

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  11. [00:23:25] <elesueur> hi guys, ubuntu-arm suggested I ask here about a kernel that supports cpufreq/cpuidle for ubuntu, can someone point me in the right direction?
  12. [00:24:18] <robclark> elesueur: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_OMAP_trunk
  13. [00:24:31] <robclark> seems latest ubuntu kernel has at least cpufreq
  14. [00:24:40] <rsalveti> yup, natty one should be fine
  15. [00:24:57] <rsalveti> and if you want to use it at maverick, following this wikipage should work
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  20. [00:41:42] <elesueur> thanks guys
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  25. [00:58:14] <elesueur> all good! thanks for the pointers
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  58. [05:19:04] <evt> l
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  67. [06:16:42] <_av500_> m
  68. [06:17:11] <dm8tbr> n
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  74. [06:37:21] <runner> is there anyone who knows the working temperature range for pandaboard?
  75. [06:39:11] <_av500_> room temperature
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  77. [06:40:19] <runner> isn't there a range for temperature?
  78. [06:40:48] <runner> like min ... and max ...
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  80. [06:41:43] <runner> isn't there a range for temperature?
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  82. [06:42:43] <_av500_> you understand its a dev board, not a mil grade component?
  83. [06:44:07] <runner> yes but i thought may be I can use it in my projects...
  84. [06:46:28] <_av500_> so what temp would you need?
  85. [06:46:47] <runner> between -10 and 70
  86. [06:46:53] <runner> celcius
  87. [06:48:04] <_av500_> ask on the ml
  88. [06:48:27] <runner> what is ml?
  89. [06:48:45] <_av500_> mailing list
  90. [06:49:06] <runner> ok thanks for your time
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  109. [08:23:43] <kraiskil> yay - digikey postponed the shipping of my panda by two months. Again :(
  110. [08:26:47] <alemariusnexus> hey guys, i'm considering to buy a pandaboard as development platform and small home server (anything speaking against that?). however, digi-key says it will be delivered some time in march. is this a realistic date? i don't want to wait years as with other community driven products i recently bought...
  111. [08:27:06] <av500> it will not take years
  112. [08:27:22] <alemariusnexus> so will march be realistic?
  113. [08:27:25] <av500> http://omappedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard_FAQ#The_distributor_.28e.g..2C_Digi-Key.29_shows_that_estimated_ship_day_is_MM.2FDD.2FYYYY._Does_it_take_so_long_to_ship_my_board.3F
  114. [08:27:27] <av500> oops
  115. [08:27:39] <av500> http://bit.ly/ewxrGf
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  117. [08:30:34] <alemariusnexus> ok, now there are several linux distributions already running on it i read. are the drivers already mature enough for, say, real 3d hardware acceleration?
  118. [08:30:57] <av500> yes, its real
  119. [08:31:05] <alemariusnexus> ok, thanks
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  155. [11:15:47] <mahi> how to add support for stride transfrom in videoscale ?
  156. [11:16:53] <mahi> is any one help me ?
  157. [11:19:47] <dm8tbr> are you going to be patient?
  158. [11:20:06] <dm8tbr> you might also email the google-group
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  160. [11:22:38] <mahi> sorry
  161. [11:22:43] <mahi> didnt get that ?
  162. [11:25:18] <mahi> is any one there ?
  163. [11:25:39] <av500> no
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  167. [11:42:06] <armin76> lol
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  180. [12:43:45] <alonb> hi
  181. [12:44:03] <alonb> i would like to order 2 panda boards
  182. [12:44:24] <alonb> but i see that they will be available only in 2 months
  183. [12:45:06] <alonb> is there a way to expedite this purchase ?
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  185. [12:52:29] <koen> yes, by ordering as soon as possible
  186. [12:52:37] <koen> and read the faq in the wiki
  187. [12:58:21] <hrw> av500: can you suggest good case for archos70?
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  190. [13:12:55] <simplon_> hello. i want to write a driver for the FDIF that is part of the OMAP4430 on Panda. The FDIF shows up under /sys/kernel/debug/hwmods/fdif but is not listed in /sys/bus/platform/devices.
  191. [13:13:22] <simplon_> If I'm not wrong this is required for proper device <-> driver matching, right?
  192. [13:13:54] <simplon_> I'm unsure what I have to do to make the FDIF show up under /sys/bus/platform/devices
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  204. [13:47:59] <hrw> armin76: not present alonb probably
  205. [13:55:12] <av500> hrw: you know my stance on cases :)
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  207. [13:55:47] <hrw> av500: friend bought archos70 and trying to find something which will fit
  208. [13:55:53] <sandy> hi all
  209. [13:56:01] <hrw> av500: so I thought "lets ask av500 - he may know" :D
  210. [13:56:10] * sandy is now known as Guest6793
  211. [13:56:35] <Guest6793> i am a sw developer with good programming skills. in future i want to become developer on linux and arm platform. i need guidance.
  212. [13:57:21] <Guest6793> NickServ sorry, I am a first timer her.
  213. [13:57:23] <Guest6793> here*
  214. [13:59:05] <av500> hrw: no idea, sorry
  215. [13:59:12] <hrw> av500: ok, thx
  216. [13:59:14] <av500> 3rd parties come up with such stuff
  217. [13:59:18] <av500> and ppl get creative
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  225. [14:13:50] <StaRetji> Folks, does panda have issues with Class6 SDHC cards?
  226. [14:14:07] <av500> no
  227. [14:14:14] <StaRetji> It's working fine with Class2 but for some reason TakeMS Class6 doesn't respond
  228. [14:14:22] <StaRetji> okay, thx for the info
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  252. [15:36:57] <rhb> I'm trying to find out what the power drain is. Has anyone measured this or can point me to documentation? I've looked throughthe manual, but couldn't find anything on power consumption.
  253. [15:38:35] <av500> its bad atm
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  255. [15:38:43] <av500> since not much pm going on
  256. [15:38:55] <michal_> hi
  257. [15:39:08] <michal_> my question is robclark
  258. [15:39:26] <av500> he is more of an answer
  259. [15:39:56] <michal_> I wants to convert x-raw-yuv-rgb to x-raw-rgb
  260. [15:40:14] <michal_> sorry
  261. [15:40:29] <michal_> x-raw-yuv-strided to x-raw-rgb
  262. [15:40:59] <michal_> please help me ?
  263. [15:41:21] <av500> ???
  264. [15:42:03] <robclark> hi michal_ .. I did push a patch recently (on dev.omapzoom.org tree) for ffmpegcolorspace to support for video/x-raw-yuv-strided
  265. [15:42:08] <robclark> that would be one option
  266. [15:42:29] <robclark> I do have some neon code somewhere for yuv->rgb which I will add to stridetransform element at some point.. which would be a faster option
  267. [15:44:13] <michal_> can we add same support in videoscale ?
  268. [15:45:11] <robclark> (fwiw, for ffmpegcolorspace: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=gstreamer/gst-plugins-base.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6639ade1d11030271946deda74fa1d3cca1b4cd)
  269. [15:45:31] <robclark> videoscale, maybe.. but usually it isn't doing colorspace conversion
  270. [15:46:37] <av500> robclark: why does this still have "ffmpeg" in its name?
  271. [15:46:44] <av500> what is ffmpeg about it?
  272. [15:46:56] <michal_> actually i am having a pipeline like filesrc ! demux ! decodebin !
  273. [15:46:58] <robclark> av500: no idea.. I guess you can say it is a historical name
  274. [15:47:01] <koen> robclark: cogcolorspace seems to be faster
  275. [15:47:36] <koen> has anyone tried ffmpeg-mt and/or mplayer-mt on panda yet
  276. [15:48:10] <av500> robclark: so this beauty did not support a dsp stride until xmas?
  277. [15:48:16] <av500> err, dst stride
  278. [15:48:17] <michal_> so its gaves me rror like stride o/p on src pads
  279. [15:48:38] <robclark> av500: a lot of things support stride internally but not in the interface between elements
  280. [15:48:59] <michal_> after enabling stridetransform
  281. [15:49:07] <av500> robclark: so all API is strideless?
  282. [15:49:08] <michal_> that error gone
  283. [15:49:23] <robclark> av500: for gst 0.10...
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  285. [15:49:32] <robclark> it is getting added for 0.11
  286. [15:49:44] <av500> welcome to embedded :)
  287. [15:50:05] <michal_> rob: i wants to create thumbnails so need to scale it ?
  288. [15:50:17] <robclark> michal_: ahh, ok...
  289. [15:50:26] <michal_> any suggestions ?
  290. [15:50:29] <robclark> fwiw, totem-thumbnailer is working
  291. [15:50:32] <robclark> (with gst-ducati)
  292. [15:50:41] <robclark> but not handling cropping quite right
  293. [15:52:15] <av500> robclark: and where is the neon code?
  294. [15:53:07] * robclark needs to find it
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  296. [15:53:12] <michal_> rob: my application have pipeline creating thumbnail is filesrc ! demux ! decodebin ! stridetransform ! videoscale ! filter ! fakesink
  297. [15:53:21] <av500> robclark: i mean in ffcolorspace
  298. [15:53:39] <robclark> ahh, I think there is non in ffcsps
  299. [15:53:56] <av500> next xmas present? :)
  300. [15:54:00] <michal_> sorry
  301. [15:54:10] <robclark> hang on, brb
  302. [15:54:12] <michal_> its missing there
  303. [15:54:30] <michal_> ffclor space is there
  304. [15:54:32] <av500> robclark: thats why the "ffmpeg" in its name is so embarassing :)
  305. [15:56:05] <michal_> rob : app is having pipeline is filesrc ! demux ! decodebin ! stridetransform ! videoscale ! ffmpeg ! filter ! fakesink
  306. [15:56:07] <koen> av500: supposedly cogcolorspace can use neon since orc has a neon backend
  307. [15:56:15] <koen> av500: I have not verified that :)
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  312. [16:16:44] <robclark> hi michal_, I'm back
  313. [16:17:18] <robclark> Probably adding the neon code for yuv->rgb to stridetransform would make that pipe at least faster..
  314. [16:17:42] <robclark> ffmpegcolorspace isn't so great on arm.. it is sort of legacy
  315. [16:17:51] <robclark> (and I apologize to ffmpeg guys ;-))
  316. [16:18:16] <av500> just rename it to "slowcolorspace" please
  317. [16:18:21] <robclark> the orc stuff is probably the best alternative to hand written neon on arm.. but I've not had time to add stride support
  318. [16:18:30] <robclark> av500: not a bad idea
  319. [16:18:40] <robclark> I'm not sure how it is on x86, maybe it isn't so bad there..
  320. [16:18:54] <robclark> it really should be either dropped or re-sync'd to a current version of ffmpeg
  321. [16:18:57] <av500> robclark: on x86 nobody cares
  322. [16:19:05] <robclark> yeah
  323. [16:19:24] <av500> its either an atom that cannot decode HD, or an I5/I7 that does not care :)
  324. [16:19:27] <robclark> but then again, they think a chip that draws 17W is power efficient
  325. [16:22:24] <koen> NishanthMenon: do you have a real life example of using opp_enable in a board file?
  326. [16:23:37] <koen> opp.txt is not really helpfull in that regard
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  331. [16:30:04] <NishanthMenon> koen, sorry - yeah i do have a custom platform that does opp_enable
  332. [16:30:31] <NishanthMenon> it is pretty easy
  333. [16:30:42] <NishanthMenon> opp_enable(dev, frequency);
  334. [16:31:12] <koen> no extra includes needed?
  335. [16:31:47] <NishanthMenon> koen, opp.h i think
  336. [16:32:06] <NishanthMenon> would you like me to create a sample patch?
  337. [16:32:16] <koen> that would be sweet
  338. [16:32:21] <koen> I currently did: http://pastebin.com/UP23GuuP
  339. [16:32:26] <av500> +opp_enable(foo, 54 );
  340. [16:32:53] <NishanthMenon> koen - NOOOOOOOOOOO
  341. [16:33:13] <NishanthMenon> that is hacking it directly up on the table itself. you dont need to do that kinda mess
  342. [16:33:18] <av500> koen: that looks so wrong :)
  343. [16:33:32] <NishanthMenon> give me a min.. /me pulling omap-for-linus
  344. [16:33:54] <av500> koen: and thats how I would do it :)
  345. [16:34:06] <koen> NishanthMenon: I have tony master + thara dvfs
  346. [16:34:21] <koen> av500: at least I have the excuse that I'm not a coder :)
  347. [16:34:24] <NishanthMenon> koen, - i have'nt tested thara's dvfs yet
  348. [16:34:36] <koen> my xM hasn't exploded yet
  349. [16:34:40] <koen> and it's at 1GHz now
  350. [16:34:43] <NishanthMenon> koen, hold on,let me check xm code for 1GHz
  351. [16:34:58] <av500> NishanthMenon: check in the PSP kernel please :)
  352. [16:34:58] <NishanthMenon> or rather modify it for 1GHz enablement (btw - it really can do 1GHz?)
  353. [16:35:06] <koen> yes
  354. [16:35:10] <av500> NishanthMenon: depends on who you believe
  355. [16:35:11] <NishanthMenon> av500, you know i dont touch PSP or TI internal trees
  356. [16:35:14] <koen> 1.2GHz is also fine
  357. [16:35:39] <NishanthMenon> koen 1.2GHz OPP has not been added to the table
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  359. [16:36:24] <NishanthMenon> does anyone know if .init_machine or .init_irq gets called first?
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  363. [16:38:48] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: greetings earthling
  364. [16:38:58] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, greetings vogon :P
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  366. [16:39:08] <uragano2_> Hello room!
  367. [16:39:14] <orbarron> gm all
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  369. [16:40:50] <uragano2_> i would like to buy a pandaboard and i am looking for a case, but i don't know which i should buy...
  370. [16:40:58] <av500> none
  371. [16:41:16] <koen> NishanthMenon: I used 1.2GHz before opplayer existed, just change the freq and volt entries :)
  372. [16:41:25] <prpplague> uragano2_: there isn't a standard case for the pandaboard currently
  373. [16:41:33] <av500> koen: how does that mix with SR?
  374. [16:41:36] <NishanthMenon> koen - just send a patch to add it to the opp3 data.c please
  375. [16:41:37] <koen> I don't expect ES1.0 silicon to work for >5 years :)
  376. [16:41:38] <prpplague> uragano2_: there are a number of them that will be available in the new future
  377. [16:42:16] <av500> prpplague: #pandaboard-cases please :)
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  379. [16:42:40] <prpplague> av500: ??
  380. [16:43:01] <av500> the other irc channel that discusses cases all day
  381. [16:43:37] <prpplague> av500: ahh, well, imho it is relevant as a large number of people want a case
  382. [16:44:34] * orbarron told the powers that be... we would need a case for this board
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  384. [16:46:48] <prpplague> uragano2_: http://www.elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo
  385. [16:46:57] <prpplague> uragano2_: should be available mid feb
  386. [16:47:27] <av500> prpplague: I love your design :)
  387. [16:48:02] <robclark> it needs some blinking led's and neon lights
  388. [16:48:08] * prpplague thinks av500 make be making sarcastic remarks
  389. [16:48:21] <av500> robclark: if we take of the POP, do we see the neon inside glow?
  390. [16:48:34] <robclark> hmm, good question..
  391. [16:48:41] <robclark> let me know what you find out :-P
  392. [16:48:45] <av500> prpplague: moi? never
  393. [16:49:11] <prpplague> av500: do tell then
  394. [16:49:13] * robclark wouldn't mind a case if it could fit a hardrive inside...
  395. [16:49:30] <robclark> I frequently take my board from home to work, so more rugged/portable settup would be nice
  396. [16:49:36] <av500> robclark: so far, asking 5 people yield 6 different case designs :)
  397. [16:49:48] <robclark> yup, that sounds about right
  398. [16:49:52] <koen> dinner, bbl
  399. [16:50:06] <av500> robclark: btw, it ships in a nice environmentally friendly case
  400. [16:50:19] <uragano2_> hmmm...i'll try to make it when it'll be in my hands, to start i need only of pandaboard and power supply?
  401. [16:50:34] <av500> and sdcard
  402. [16:50:35] <prpplague> robclark: i have a bamboo for you, but i keep forgetting it along with orbarron's trainer board, hehe
  403. [16:50:40] <robclark> yeah.. but my original environmentally friendly case is going to fall apart sooner or later
  404. [16:50:48] <av500> prpplague: pics!
  405. [16:51:05] <robclark> prpplague: cool, so I can be the first panda case modder?
  406. [16:51:35] <prpplague> robclark: i think orbarron has bet you, that mini-itx case i had with the lcd panel, orbarron has got it working
  407. [16:51:47] <robclark> ahh, nice
  408. [16:51:51] * orbarron still under wraps
  409. [16:52:34] <prpplague> av500: don't have any pics handy, let me check and see if i have the gerbers here if you want to look at those
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  412. [16:54:58] <NishanthMenon> koen, can you try this please? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910050
  413. [16:55:25] <NishanthMenon> you need to modify that if (1) to required check after detecting xm.
  414. [16:55:47] <NishanthMenon> i will send out a patch fixing opp3data.c
  415. [16:56:00] <NishanthMenon> dont recollect screwing up the static there! damn!
  416. [16:56:27] <NishanthMenon> oh damn.. one more thing - please replace opp_disable with opp_enable ofcourse in the patch.. sorry
  417. [16:57:10] <prpplague> av500: http://www.elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo#Design
  418. [16:57:15] <prpplague> av500: added rev1 schematic
  419. [16:57:20] <prpplague> av500: feel free to add comments
  420. [16:58:01] <NishanthMenon> koen, updated patch here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910051 (fixed from opp_disable to opp_enable)
  421. [16:58:09] <NishanthMenon> gotta go for meeting
  422. [16:58:10] <NishanthMenon> cya later
  423. [16:59:38] <av500> prpplague: i thought you had a case, not a pcb
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  426. [17:00:54] <prpplague> av500: the panda plugs into the pcb, then the pcb goes into the case
  427. [17:01:27] <av500> prpplague: i figured that much :)
  428. [17:02:06] * prpplague isn't sure what av500 is asking then
  429. [17:02:30] * orbarron wonders if the bamboo will fit nicely into my mini-itx modded case...
  430. [17:03:30] <prpplague> orbarron: no, i designed it to fit inside that pac-tec case
  431. [17:04:15] <av500> prpplague: that case has no WAF
  432. [17:04:33] <av500> or a very low one
  433. [17:04:40] <prpplague> av500: WAF?
  434. [17:04:58] <av500> woman/wife acceptance factor
  435. [17:05:31] <orbarron> hehe nice...
  436. [17:05:33] <prpplague> av500: looks better in black
  437. [17:05:43] <prpplague> av500: and when the holes are punched out
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  439. [17:15:24] <uragano2_> is it the ship date estimate trustworthy???
  440. [17:16:09] <uragano2_> it says 24/3 :S
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  442. [17:18:56] <av500> http://bit.ly/ewxrGf
  443. [17:20:00] <uragano2_> ty!
  444. [17:29:06] <av500> prpplague: ds1307 ftw
  445. [17:29:31] <av500> I used that 10y ago :)
  446. [17:30:00] <prpplague> av500: ??
  447. [17:30:09] <av500> the i2c rtc
  448. [17:30:30] <av500> I was surprised that part still "exists"
  449. [17:30:36] <prpplague> av500: ahh
  450. [17:31:22] <av500> what is hub for?
  451. [17:31:24] <av500> the
  452. [17:33:10] <av500> prpplague: connect the ftdi gpios to something
  453. [17:33:12] <av500> e.g. reset
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  456. [17:40:44] <prpplague> av500: yea, same rtc part we use on the zippy/zippy2 and about 15 other products, so we already have stock
  457. [17:41:07] <av500> prpplague: ic
  458. [17:41:15] <av500> it was just a blast from the past to me :)
  459. [17:41:24] <prpplague> av500: yea, rev2 of the board actually has the gpio's connected to PoR and to some omap gpios for config controls
  460. [17:41:34] <av500> ok, cool
  461. [17:41:43] * uragano2_ (57062b6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.6.43.111) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
  462. [17:41:50] <av500> that will help canonical and their build clusters :)
  463. [17:42:05] <prpplague> av500: the hub is there so you can have a single connection for the jtag, debug uart, and the usb-otg in slave mode
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  465. [17:42:32] <av500> ah, it goes to the utg
  466. [17:42:33] <av500> otg
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  468. [17:42:51] <av500> err, jtag?
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  471. [17:48:43] <av500> prpplague: I beat you to market: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5327191035/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5327794584/
  472. [17:49:44] <orbarron> av500: nice..
  473. [17:50:03] <av500> I take preorders
  474. [17:50:19] * Sowa (~yaaic@85.158.34.93) Quit (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org)
  475. [17:50:23] <prpplague> av500: my personal case looks better
  476. [17:50:33] <av500> prpplague: meh, case closed :)
  477. [17:51:54] <prpplague> av500: yea, well mine has a bunch of blue leds
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  479. [17:55:13] <av500> prpplague: blue leds are so last year
  480. [17:57:05] <topfs2> haha av500 thats quite smart :)
  481. [17:57:12] <dm8tbr> what's the latest craze then? IR-leds?
  482. [17:57:29] <av500> dm8tbr: tiny heat balls
  483. [17:57:58] <dm8tbr> isn't that basically the same thing?
  484. [17:58:16] <av500> dm8tbr: nothing beats the smell of glowing filament
  485. [17:58:23] <av500> err. glow
  486. [17:58:28] <dm8tbr> in a vacuum...
  487. [17:58:51] <dm8tbr> topfs2: did you see what Sage has done with n900 and xbmc?
  488. [17:59:13] <topfs2> dm8tbr: no?
  489. [18:00:10] <topfs2> what did he do?
  490. [18:00:59] <dm8tbr> http://sagestechblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/running-xbmc-on-nokia-n900-with-meego.html
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  493. [18:10:55] <prpplague> orbarron: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Asus-Eee-Pad-MeMo-Slider-and-Transformer/
  494. [18:11:11] <orbarron> say that yesterday
  495. [18:11:15] <orbarron> err saw
  496. [18:11:45] * orbarron liked the slider version
  497. [18:15:22] * ceyusa (~vjaquez@155.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com) Quit (Quit: leaving)
  498. [18:17:47] <prpplague> av500: http://imagebin.org/131140
  499. [18:18:09] <prpplague> av500: http://imagebin.org/131141
  500. [18:18:55] <av500> prpplague: one day some sea animal will swallow that and die a horrible death from it
  501. [18:19:14] <prpplague> av500: nothing like leaving a legacy
  502. [18:21:17] * orbarron wonders when prpplague will clean up his desk... :-/
  503. [18:21:25] <av500> prpplague: your lcd is more impressive :)
  504. [18:21:26] <prpplague> orbarron: soon
  505. [18:21:56] <av500> than your schoool lunch box
  506. [18:21:59] <av500> -o
  507. [18:22:20] <av500> you should have packet baby carrots and apple slices next to the pcb :)
  508. [18:22:23] <av500> packed
  509. [18:22:26] <prpplague> funny everyone thinks it is a lumch box
  510. [18:22:48] <prpplague> its actually an underwater camera box
  511. [18:23:01] <av500> not any more :)
  512. [18:23:34] <prpplague> av500: hehe well you'll be able to buy a lvds board soon enough
  513. [18:30:02] <koen> NishanthMenon: omap_init_opp_table: no hwmod or odev for mpu, [0] cannot add OPPs.
  514. [18:30:46] <NishanthMenon> koen, i just dusted up my xm here
  515. [18:30:48] <NishanthMenon> will try as well
  516. [18:31:13] <koen> NishanthMenon: this is the patch I'm using: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beagleboard/opplayer.txt
  517. [18:32:01] * lanthan_afh (~ze@p50992b91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
  518. [18:32:06] <NishanthMenon> koen, thx. will check (/me having lunch atm ;) )
  519. [18:32:21] <av500> NishanthMenon: wont omap3_opp_init be called twice?
  520. [18:33:18] <NishanthMenon> av500, yes, but it should be handled in the code. it is designed to be called multiple times, but initializes only once
  521. [18:33:26] <av500> ic
  522. [18:33:32] <av500> now go have lunch :)
  523. [18:33:50] * NishanthMenon bows and continues to chomp food
  524. [18:35:44] <Esmil> I'm having trouble getting my pandpaboard to show anything on the screen. The is connected via a hdmi-cable and an hdmi to dvi converter to the screen. Might that be why?
  525. [18:35:52] <av500> no
  526. [18:36:04] <av500> using the hdmi or the dvi port?
  527. [18:36:55] <Esmil> Well the dvi-port didn't seem to give any output, but I'm getting errors if I connect it to the hdmi port
  528. [18:37:29] <Esmil> I've installed the L24.9-Pandaboard-validation-fs I found on omappedia.org
  529. [18:38:13] <koen> NishanthMenon: this is the kernel stack of patches I currently have: http://dominion.thruhere.net/git/cgit.cgi/linux-omap/log/?h=koen/beagle-next
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  531. [18:38:57] <av500> including the miracle patch
  532. [18:39:08] <NishanthMenon> koen, i will be trying on omap-for-linus branch
  533. [18:39:21] <koen> shouldn't be much difference
  534. [18:39:36] * NishanthMenon muses - famous last words?
  535. [18:39:52] <koen> you do want http://dominion.thruhere.net/git/cgit.cgi/linux-omap/patch/?id=d6d5641d45a971ebae2838b03fc6ed8cac095254
  536. [18:40:04] <koen> but you have that in your mbox somewhere
  537. [18:40:23] <NishanthMenon> you should have split and pushed upstream when you had a chance :(
  538. [18:40:48] <koen> I still don't see why it *needs* to be split
  539. [18:41:05] * NishanthMenon points at l-o
  540. [18:41:11] <av500> its more than 5 lines long
  541. [18:42:17] <NishanthMenon> http://marc.info/?t=129172571000001&r=1&w=2 http://marc.info/?t=129276977900002&r=1&w=2
  542. [18:43:18] <topfs2> dm8tbr: oooh cool
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  544. [18:43:53] <Esmil> av500: Which port should I be using?
  545. [18:44:24] <topfs2> Sage: cool video!
  546. [18:44:56] <topfs2> if you need any help or have any questions feel free to ping me or davilla (he hangs out in here at times) and we would be glad to help
  547. [18:47:21] <topfs2> considering music slows down much I'd suggest trying to disable gui sounds (compile time) or merge in the new audio engine (not tested on arm yet)
  548. [18:47:47] <topfs2> both should hopefully take down CPU quite a bit (SDL Audio was buggy or me on angstrom, might not be the case on meego)
  549. [18:47:55] <orbarron> Esmil: the HDMI port is the default choice
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  551. [18:48:34] <Esmil> orbarron: Thank you. Let me just find the error it gives again then..
  552. [18:50:22] <Esmil> omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT
  553. [18:50:23] <Esmil> omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST_DIGIT, disabling TV
  554. [18:50:40] <Esmil> Wops, sorry. But that is the two lines it gives over and over again
  555. [18:50:41] <av500> what display?
  556. [18:51:00] <Esmil> A lenovo thinkvision screen
  557. [18:51:13] <Esmil> I tried it on a television too, but same result
  558. [19:07:44] <orbarron> hmm
  559. [19:09:22] <prpplague> Esmil: and you are connecting via DVI?
  560. [19:10:13] <Esmil> prpplague: Yes
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  562. [19:11:23] <prpplague> Esmil: most likely the edid is not parsing correctly or the resolution you are passing to the DVI display is not supported
  563. [19:11:39] <prpplague> Esmil: enable dss debugging and add omapdss.debug=1 to your boot args
  564. [19:11:49] <prpplague> Esmil: that will add some additional debugging info
  565. [19:12:44] <Esmil> prpplague: Hmm.. I'm not actively passing any resolution. Can you specify that on the kernel command line too?
  566. [19:13:37] <Esmil> Eh /kernel command line/kernel boot args/
  567. [19:18:15] <orbarron> Esmil: if you are using the validation-fs press enter when before it boots ups. Then add your bootargs --> see: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Minimal-FS_Booting for info
  568. [19:18:49] * bjf[afk] is now known as bjf
  569. [19:19:36] <Esmil> orbarron: Right, thank you
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  571. [19:27:13] <Esmil> This is a screen log of me typing 'dmesg<enter>' after the validation fs gives me a prompt: http://pastebin.com/32zmbEVb
  572. [19:36:49] <Esmil> Ahh, after the screen entered power saving mode it stopped printing error messages, so here is a clean dmesg: http://pastebin.com/cyA0ee2C
  573. [19:42:48] <orbarron> Esmil: the L24.9 kernel does not handle DVI very well. I would suggest you try a newer kernel. try either a Angstrom or Ubuntu image.
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  576. [19:49:22] <koen> NishanthMenon is back from lunch
  577. [19:49:30] <NishanthMenon> koen, :)
  578. [19:49:37] <koen> that or he eats xload for lunch
  579. [19:49:38] <NishanthMenon> yeah - i had to get my xm booting first ;)
  580. [19:49:55] <NishanthMenon> btw u-boot is still broke with gcc 4.5.1 on mainline for beagle (panda works)
  581. [19:50:13] <NishanthMenon> i stepped back to gcc 4.4.1 for the timebeing and it went through fine
  582. [19:50:13] * koen uses 4.5.3
  583. [19:50:18] <ds2> xload is only for the xm!
  584. [19:50:18] <koen> and 4.3.3
  585. [19:50:55] <NishanthMenon> koen, ok - but something is fishy about u-boot master for beagle (xm alone?)
  586. [19:51:39] <koen> omap3 in general
  587. [19:51:47] <Esmil> orbarron: Hmm.. I can't seem to find the angstrom image for pandaboard. Do you have a link?
  588. [19:51:50] <NishanthMenon> hmm... mebbe sometime else
  589. [19:52:00] <koen> Esmil: go to narcissus and build your own
  590. [19:52:33] <orbarron> Esmil: http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/
  591. [19:53:24] <Esmil> Cool, thank you
  592. [20:13:45] * pcacjr (~pcacjr@unaffiliated/pcacjr) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
  593. [20:20:20] <NishanthMenon> koen, soln: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910197 (patch 1) and http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910198 (patch 2)
  594. [20:20:54] <NishanthMenon> based off omap-for-linus branch of Tony
  595. [20:21:36] <NishanthMenon> will send to l-o for review
  596. [20:21:49] <NishanthMenon> koen, if you are ok with the same, please ack it
  597. [20:22:17] <NishanthMenon> koen, ofcourse if you are testing it, I will add tested-by before posting
  598. [20:22:39] <koen> grabbing them now
  599. [20:23:26] <NishanthMenon> koen, danke
  600. [20:26:08] <NishanthMenon> koen - dont we need Smart Reflex for 1GHz?
  601. [20:26:20] <NishanthMenon> I will use #ifdef to disable 1Ghz if SR is not defined
  602. [20:28:15] <koen> NishanthMenon: depends if you want to use the DSP
  603. [20:28:29] <_av500_> ?
  604. [20:28:33] <koen> if you do, you need ABB
  605. [20:28:37] <NishanthMenon> how do you know in the board file if the user wants to use DSP or not
  606. [20:28:48] <_av500_> define?
  607. [20:28:48] <koen> _av500_: if you use the DSP the voltage isn't enough
  608. [20:28:55] <NishanthMenon> so at least the patch I will post to l-o will not use 1Ghz?
  609. [20:28:57] <_av500_> koen: the SR one?
  610. [20:29:23] <koen> it needs a small boost at 1GHz if you want to use both MPU and IVA
  611. [20:29:33] <_av500_> so, add it, no?
  612. [20:29:40] <NishanthMenon> av500 - ABB is bias voltage
  613. [20:29:48] <NishanthMenon> in addition to vdd1 voltage
  614. [20:29:53] <_av500_> ic
  615. [20:29:56] <koen> adaptive bias even :)
  616. [20:30:07] <koen> came with the die shrink
  617. [20:30:10] <NishanthMenon> koen, in theory - we use FBB - forward body bias
  618. [20:30:15] <_av500_> koen: and for 1.2? how does sr handle that?
  619. [20:30:26] <NishanthMenon> av500, yeah u need ABB for 1.2 as well
  620. [20:30:35] <_av500_> i forgot all about abb fbb, my kernel team does that :)
  621. [20:30:52] <NishanthMenon> ABB is a similar circuitry as SR, but distinct h/w block though
  622. [20:30:55] <_av500_> yes, but sr lacks the 1.2 ghz opp, no?
  623. [20:31:22] <NishanthMenon> 1.2GHz is MPU, using SR, you can use optimal voltage depending on your device type
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  625. [20:31:39] <NishanthMenon> nominal is worst case voltage and ABB is a must as well.
  626. [20:31:42] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: yes, but does the hw sr block handle that opp?
  627. [20:31:46] <koen> NishanthMenon: beagle_opp_init: turbo OPPs enabled!
  628. [20:32:04] <NishanthMenon> koen, cool - can you check if 1GHz is actually represented in cpufreq?
  629. [20:32:13] <NishanthMenon> and are u able to use it (without DSP ofcourse ;) ).
  630. [20:32:17] <koen> cpufreq stats: 300 MHz:0.00%, 600 MHz:0.00%, 800 MHz:0.00%, 1000 MHz:100.00% (1)
  631. [20:32:26] <NishanthMenon> sounds good :)
  632. [20:32:35] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: it works here nicely
  633. [20:32:37] <koen> BogoMIPS : 877.71
  634. [20:32:49] <_av500_> with evil ti vendor kernel
  635. [20:32:59] <koen> _av500_: if you don't use ABB/FBB you can just increase core voltage a bit
  636. [20:33:01] <NishanthMenon> av500, yeah - i have it on a custom platform as well
  637. [20:33:06] <koen> that's what I did for 1.2GHz
  638. [20:33:14] <NishanthMenon> koen, av500 keep in mind that PMIC have a max voltage
  639. [20:33:25] <koen> av500 has a beefy pmic :)
  640. [20:33:30] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: pah, i blow right past that!
  641. [20:33:41] <koen> NishanthMenon: feel free to add tested-by
  642. [20:33:45] * NishanthMenon worries about people with beefy pmic..
  643. [20:33:55] <NishanthMenon> koen thx. I will disable 1GHz for the moment
  644. [20:34:03] <NishanthMenon> no point in breaking everyone's code without ABB
  645. [20:34:04] <NishanthMenon> :(
  646. [20:34:09] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: just pipe usbpvr to core :)
  647. [20:34:24] <NishanthMenon> av500, sure :P
  648. [20:34:59] <koen> NishanthMenon: when is that ABB stuff expected to merge in mainline?
  649. [20:35:08] <NishanthMenon> koen, /me have no idea
  650. [20:35:24] <NishanthMenon> actually for 36xx series we need class 1.5 and not class 3
  651. [20:35:35] <NishanthMenon> for smart reflex.. we dont have that either. :(
  652. [20:37:08] <koen> NishanthMenon: you need http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhQNz2AszDI
  653. [20:37:27] <NishanthMenon> Big bro was watching :(
  654. [20:37:43] <koen> big bro don't like duran duran?
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  656. [20:50:04] <NishanthMenon> koen, naah all access thru proxy ;).. logs and me dont like each other.. the patches have been posted on l-o
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  662. [21:06:16] <jzw> trying to boot my pandaboard. I've connected the RS-232 connector on the board to the PC, set up at 115K, 8N1. I formatted the card as per instructions, power up the board, and nothing...
  663. [21:06:36] <jzw> I've tried this on two pandaboards, same result. what am I doing wrong?
  664. [21:06:56] <_av500_> formatted is not enough
  665. [21:07:01] <_av500_> it needs some content
  666. [21:07:01] <jzw> I'm using minimalfs
  667. [21:07:12] <jzw> yes, I'm using minimalfs on a 64MB FAT32 partition
  668. [21:07:17] <jzw> as per the instructions
  669. [21:07:34] <_av500_> the fs belongs on the other partition
  670. [21:07:39] <jzw> the D2 LED lights when powered up, but not the D1 LED
  671. [21:07:42] <_av500_> do you get mlo/uboot logs?
  672. [21:07:46] <jzw> nope
  673. [21:07:48] <jzw> nothing
  674. [21:08:00] <jzw> does the Xloader console print to the RS-232 port?
  675. [21:08:03] <_av500_> yes
  676. [21:08:10] <_av500_> no console
  677. [21:08:13] <_av500_> but it prints
  678. [21:08:16] <jzw> OK, I've verified the serial is working
  679. [21:08:17] <_av500_> check your serial
  680. [21:08:20] <jzw> with another H/W board
  681. [21:08:23] <jzw> yep
  682. [21:08:29] <_av500_> hmm
  683. [21:08:32] <NishanthMenon> jzw, my bet - you have a badly formatted card
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  685. [21:08:43] <jzw> I've tried two cards -- MMC and SD
  686. [21:08:58] <jzw> set the cyls, etc. as per instructions
  687. [21:09:05] <NishanthMenon> it is not the card itself - it is the formatting technique that is the problem
  688. [21:09:11] <_av500_> jzw: pastebin the output of fdisk x p
  689. [21:09:15] <jzw> k
  690. [21:09:16] * ian_brasil (~ian_brasi@189.2.128.130) Quit (Quit: ian_brasil)
  691. [21:09:17] <jzw> one sec
  692. [21:09:24] <_av500_> and fsck.msdos -v on the boot part
  693. [21:09:44] <NishanthMenon> jzw, use a script similar to the one angstrom does: e.g. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910274
  694. [21:10:07] <_av500_> magic cylinder 9
  695. [21:10:29] <jzw> OK I used the other script and did it manually as well
  696. [21:10:33] <jzw> one sec
  697. [21:11:07] <NishanthMenon> jzw, example - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910275 (note the BOOT - it has a * for the boot vfat partition - that is critical)
  698. [21:11:45] <jzw> ah
  699. [21:11:59] <jzw> here's mine, but the second time I didn't set the BOOT
  700. [21:12:02] <jzw> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910276
  701. [21:12:08] <jzw> let me try that
  702. [21:12:25] <NishanthMenon> jzw, might help with fdisl -l /dev/sdb ;)
  703. [21:13:31] <jzw> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910278 -- fdisk -l /dev/sdb
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  705. [21:15:04] <jzw> the first part (FAT32) has MLO, u-boot.bin, and uImage from the minimal dist (angstrom_minimal-fs.tar.gz)
  706. [21:15:24] <_av500_> right
  707. [21:15:55] <_av500_> your fat part looks ok
  708. [21:15:59] <jzw> yeah
  709. [21:16:11] <jzw> tried the same thing with an SD card -- this is a 2GB MMC
  710. [21:16:23] <_av500_> thats ok
  711. [21:16:37] <_av500_> card size does not matter as long as the partiotns fit
  712. [21:16:42] <jzw> yeah
  713. [21:16:47] <jzw> I figured
  714. [21:17:11] <_av500_> fsck.msdos -v please
  715. [21:17:18] <jzw> k
  716. [21:18:23] <_av500_> is the card all the way in?
  717. [21:18:24] <jzw> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910280 -- fsck plus the contents of the part
  718. [21:18:44] <_av500_> looks ok
  719. [21:18:45] <jzw> it was...will jam it in again
  720. [21:18:53] <jzw> yeah, it's weird
  721. [21:19:15] <jzw> nada...no go
  722. [21:19:24] <jzw> D2 lights
  723. [21:19:28] <jzw> D1 doesn't light
  724. [21:19:32] <jzw> nothing on RS-232
  725. [21:19:42] <NishanthMenon> this is mine:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/910281
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  727. [21:19:59] <jzw> if I plug in J18 via USB, windows doesn't find the driver
  728. [21:20:04] <jzw> but that powers up the board as well
  729. [21:20:05] <_av500_> yes
  730. [21:20:10] <_av500_> dont do that
  731. [21:20:13] <NishanthMenon> one tiny little thing - dunno if it matters - but check lock switch on the card itself
  732. [21:20:23] <_av500_> only 500mA over usb
  733. [21:20:27] <jzw> right
  734. [21:20:35] <jzw> no lock switch on this MMC card
  735. [21:20:53] * NishanthMenon out of ideas
  736. [21:21:06] <tgall_foo> what timing I'm just digging through the manual about my panda ... not getting any output via serial and LED D2 is on but LED D1 isn't
  737. [21:21:19] <jzw> whew
  738. [21:21:24] <jzw> OK that's the same thing I am seeing
  739. [21:21:29] <jzw> on two pandaboards
  740. [21:21:43] <_av500_> flow control off?
  741. [21:21:43] <jzw> (re: tgall_foo)
  742. [21:21:44] <NishanthMenon> ok - i am going to point at MeeGo images as a backup
  743. [21:22:01] <tgall_foo> yes flow control is off, 115K
  744. [21:22:16] <jzw> flow control is off, 115K 8N1
  745. [21:22:28] <jzw> I'm going thru a USB serial adapter
  746. [21:22:30] <jzw> to the PC
  747. [21:22:46] <NishanthMenon> http://download.meego.com/live/home:/nm:/pandademo2/MeeGo_1.1/armv7l/ - you will get the MLO, u-boot.bin, boot.scr, uImage
  748. [21:22:58] <tgall_foo> same here .. know good serial cable as I use this same setup for my beagle XM
  749. [21:22:59] <NishanthMenon> if you just open the rpm using archive manager
  750. [21:23:19] <NishanthMenon> I know for sure that this set does work on my panda EA1 board
  751. [21:23:23] <jzw> yes, I checked on a separate ARM board I have and serial is working
  752. [21:23:41] <jzw> my boards are new, 12/15/10
  753. [21:23:49] <jzw> from digi-key
  754. [21:24:08] <tgall_foo> someone was saying I needed a 5V 4A power supply ... in my case I was using one I received with my beagles it's 5V 2.5A
  755. [21:24:13] <NishanthMenon> the interesting rpms are are http://download.meego.com/live/home:/nm:/pandademo2/MeeGo_1.1/armv7l/x-loader-omap4430panda-L24.11-3.1.armv7l.rpm http://download.meego.com/live/home:/nm:/pandademo2/MeeGo_1.1/armv7l/u-boot-omap4_panda-L24.11-1.1.armv7l.rpm http://download.meego.com/live/home:/nm:/pandademo2/MeeGo_1.1/armv7l/kernel-panda-2.6.35.3-18.1.armv7l.rpm
  756. [21:24:32] <_av500_> tgall_foo: for a boot with nothing on usb 2.5 is ok
  757. [21:24:32] <NishanthMenon> tgall_foo, jzw for initial boot to kernel, you should be fine with 2.5A power
  758. [21:24:33] <tgall_foo> jzw, bet we have a board from the same batch
  759. [21:24:35] <jzw> I'm using a 2A 5V
  760. [21:24:48] <NishanthMenon> jzw should be fine
  761. [21:24:49] <jzw> tgall: yes, sounds like it
  762. [21:24:53] <elesueur> we had problems with our power supply as well
  763. [21:25:02] <jzw> yes, 2A boot should be OK, no?
  764. [21:25:09] <jzw> wonder if there is a board problem here or something
  765. [21:25:11] <elesueur> rated at 2A, but could only deliver like 800mA
  766. [21:25:13] <elesueur> at 5V
  767. [21:25:19] <_av500_> yes, 2a for board and 2a for usb hub
  768. [21:25:20] <elesueur> higher currents the voltage dropped considerably
  769. [21:25:33] <jzw> I can hook a meter and see what it is drawing
  770. [21:25:43] <jzw> I also have a digital PSU I could use
  771. [21:25:44] <tgall_foo> _av500_, for a 4A supply is recommended than I gather ? but 2.5A should boot ?
  772. [21:25:46] <elesueur> have you got a current controlled power supply?
  773. [21:25:51] <_av500_> yes
  774. [21:26:18] <tgall_foo> so on the LEDs next to the SD slot, should they both be on?
  775. [21:26:52] <elesueur> depends what stage of boot I think
  776. [21:27:06] <elesueur> once linux starts, STATUS2 is SD card activity
  777. [21:27:08] <jzw> that's what I figured
  778. [21:27:13] <Sage> topfs2: well the n900 meego is currently suffering some slowdowns which might be caused by the cgroups that is integrated to the kernel. I'm hoping to look more intot that xbmc stuff this weekend.
  779. [21:27:15] <elesueur> and STATUS1 is some sort of heartbeat
  780. [21:27:16] <jzw> it should boot off of USB power too, no?
  781. [21:27:27] <_av500_> no
  782. [21:27:33] <jzw> does it need more than 500mA to boot?
  783. [21:27:35] <elesueur> usb can only supply 500mA
  784. [21:27:36] <_av500_> it will crash eventually
  785. [21:27:37] <elesueur> yes
  786. [21:27:42] <jzw> k
  787. [21:27:45] <elesueur> mine draws up to 800mA on boot
  788. [21:27:49] <_av500_> maybe not in mlo
  789. [21:28:05] <jzw> yeah, you should see *something* on the serial then, even with low power
  790. [21:28:12] <jzw> but this is a 2A PSU
  791. [21:28:24] <elesueur> what doesn't mean it can actually deliver 2A at 5V
  792. [21:28:31] <jzw> true
  793. [21:28:51] <jzw> I'll dust off the digital PSU, it'd be great if this was just a power problem
  794. [21:29:30] <rsalveti> I belive the x-loader is activating the first led and then u-boot activate both again
  795. [21:29:43] <rsalveti> then the kernel uses the first as heartbeat and second as mmc activity
  796. [21:30:00] <tgall_foo> ok so that said, given nothing in the SD slot and reasonable power, on power up should there be at least some output out the serial port ?
  797. [21:30:27] <rsalveti> nothing on the sd slot?
  798. [21:30:41] <elesueur> i dont think so...
  799. [21:30:42] <rsalveti> it needs at least the x-loader or u-boot, unless you're booting from usb
  800. [21:30:46] <orbarron> no...
  801. [21:30:49] <elesueur> both xloader and uboot are loaded from mmc
  802. [21:31:05] <jzw> ah OK, so is MLO the xloader?
  803. [21:31:10] <rsalveti> yup
  804. [21:31:16] <topfs2> Sage still very fun to see its working
  805. [21:31:22] <rsalveti> once you have a valid x-loader and u-boot you can then see the boot at the console
  806. [21:31:29] <topfs2> I guess your using SDL in there?
  807. [21:32:10] <jzw> got it
  808. [21:33:00] <tgall_foo> ok thanks
  809. [21:33:46] <_av500_> maybe somebody can zip you the 1st 128mb of a working sdcard
  810. [21:33:50] <topfs2> Btw Sage what resolution did you try it on the panda? I have only been able to do it in 640x480
  811. [21:33:51] * jprvita|afk is now known as jprvita
  812. [21:34:17] <_av500_> and you just dd it onto yours
  813. [21:34:48] <Sage> topfs2: yes sdl is in use as well
  814. [21:35:08] <NishanthMenon> here it is: 2GB card image for Pandaboard with Meego
  815. [21:35:16] <NishanthMenon> tested on EA1 h/w: https://github.com/nmenon/pandademo2/blob/master/meego-handset-armv7l-panda-rootfs-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2
  816. [21:35:26] <jzw> OK, plugged it into an agilent 66319D, 5V, 3A output
  817. [21:35:27] <jzw> no go
  818. [21:35:37] <Sage> topfs2: I'll have to check that don't remember what resolution was on there.
  819. [21:35:39] <_av500_> jzw: wow, thats a cool psu
  820. [21:35:43] <jzw> nishanth, will try that image
  821. [21:36:02] <jzw> _av500_: yah, it's slick
  822. [21:36:05] <NishanthMenon> bunzip it and dd it to card (sudo dd if=meego-handset-armv7l-panda-rootfs*.raw of=/dev/sdb)
  823. [21:36:06] <topfs2> Sage: no matter, currently compiling on the panda now to test it with a monitor finally so I'll see what I can muster from it now :)
  824. [21:36:12] <Sage> topfs2: btw, if you have any ideas what could be wrong with the video playback in my xbmc compile I would appreciate the help.
  825. [21:36:24] <topfs2> video playback on the n900?
  826. [21:36:29] <Sage> I have to compile it with --disable-non-free beacause of the server is in US :/
  827. [21:36:42] <_av500_> jzw: i have the same on my desk
  828. [21:36:54] <Sage> topfs2: but ogg/vorbis should still work right?
  829. [21:36:56] <topfs2> sure, that shouldn't do much afaik. take away rar and some stuff from ffmpeg, should still work
  830. [21:37:11] <jzw> av: cool :-)
  831. [21:37:16] <topfs2> Music playback and video playback are 2 different engines, the former uses specific codecs and the later uses ffmpeg
  832. [21:37:21] <jzw> still not booting, tho
  833. [21:37:44] <topfs2> oh sorry, yeah ogv and such should work
  834. [21:37:48] <_av500_> NishanthMenon: bunzip to the card and save the dd :)
  835. [21:38:01] <NishanthMenon> _av500_, :)
  836. [21:41:59] <Sage> topfs2: Here is the build log if you want to have a look http://sage.kapsi.fi/MeeGo/xbmc-armv7l-build.log
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  838. [21:45:37] <jzw> av500, et al - any other ideas to debug this? still not feeling any love from the board. the meego image is large, don't have time to d/l and try it righ tnow
  839. [21:45:50] <jzw> doesn't seem to be a power problem
  840. [21:45:53] <elesueur> download the ubuntu install image and see if that works?
  841. [21:45:59] <jzw> guess I could try the serial port to linux
  842. [21:46:01] <elesueur> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/10.10/release/
  843. [21:46:09] <jzw> yeah, downloading that now actually :)
  844. [21:46:19] <sandpm> is there any supply constraints for pandaboard. I have ordered for it but the shipping date is three months away!
  845. [21:46:25] <topfs2> Sage: what happens when you try to play a video?
  846. [21:46:34] <elesueur> i haven't had a problem with the install _starting_ with any SD card I've tried
  847. [21:46:58] <elesueur> I've only successfully installed it completely on a 4GB non class-10 SD card
  848. [21:47:09] <elesueur> I tried an 8GB class 10, and it fails after resizing it
  849. [21:47:18] <jzw> nice
  850. [21:47:49] <jzw> does anyone know if MLO will light up D1?
  851. [21:48:06] <elesueur> not sure...
  852. [21:48:07] <Sage> topfs2: Getting error that unable to play
  853. [21:48:09] <jzw> that could tell me if there's something jacked with the USB-serial adapter
  854. [21:48:12] <elesueur> i haven't tried MLO by itself
  855. [21:48:19] <Sage> topfs2: Is this normal: libtheora enabled no
  856. [21:48:33] <jzw> I did a "strings" on it and it shows the TI "X-Loader" text in it
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  858. [21:48:39] <borillion> hey guys
  859. [21:48:42] <Sage> topfs2: that is in the log and got my attention eventhough the libtheora-devel package is installed
  860. [21:48:48] <borillion> hello Sage
  861. [21:48:53] <Sage> borillion: hello
  862. [21:49:25] <topfs2> Sage: hmm, could you upload the xbmc.log, that would be awesome. I'm tbh not very good with videoplayback (not my area of expertise) but perhaps I can spot something
  863. [21:49:50] <Sage> 23:41.58 < Sage> topfs2: Here is the build log if you want to have a look http://sage.kapsi.fi/MeeGo/xbmc-armv7l-build.log
  864. [21:49:58] <Sage> topfs2: ahs, sry
  865. [21:50:15] <Sage> I'll upload that when I get the new image ready and booted on my device
  866. [21:50:21] <orbarron> jzw: you can also try Angstrom on-line builder
  867. [21:50:21] <topfs2> sounds good
  868. [21:50:31] <topfs2> I usually idle here so just ping me :)
  869. [21:51:01] <borillion> I want to make my own board anyone have any pointers?
  870. [21:51:16] <jzw> orbarron: d/l'ing ubuntu now, will see where that goes
  871. [21:52:03] <_av500_> sandpm: read the panda faq
  872. [21:52:18] <_av500_> borillion: get friends with ti
  873. [21:52:24] <borillion> love ubuntu
  874. [21:52:40] * demarchi (~demarchi@187.106.0.240) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out)
  875. [21:52:51] <borillion> LOL _av500_ what you mean ?
  876. [21:53:02] * jprvita (~jprvita@187.106.0.240) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  877. [21:53:05] <NishanthMenon> borillion, ping nhg
  878. [21:53:29] <NishanthMenon> borillion, for board details trouble prpplague ;)
  879. [21:53:42] * prpplague looks lin
  880. [21:53:45] <borillion> lol
  881. [21:53:56] <borillion> whats ping lol
  882. [21:54:01] <borillion> you mean say hello
  883. [21:54:03] <borillion> ?
  884. [21:54:05] <orbarron> yes
  885. [21:54:06] <NishanthMenon> borillion, yep
  886. [21:54:08] <borillion> kk
  887. [21:54:10] <borillion> LOOOL
  888. [21:54:40] <jzw> question - is it worth trying to boot via USB instead of SD/MMC
  889. [21:54:46] <prpplague> borillion: omap4430 chips are not generally available at this time, so designing your own omap4430 board is most likely out of the question
  890. [21:54:52] <jzw> maybe there's something jacked with the slot on these boards
  891. [21:54:59] <borillion> hey prplague, Im supposed to ask you about making my own board lol
  892. [21:55:06] <borillion> I guess that answered it :P
  893. [21:55:30] <orbarron> jzw: you would need to boot from the SD first
  894. [21:55:57] * sandpm (0fcbe94f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.15.203.233.79) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
  895. [21:56:11] <jzw> k
  896. [21:56:25] <NishanthMenon> orbarron, http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Serial_Boot_and_Flash_Loading_Utility_for_OMAP-L138 dont we have something like that for Panda?
  897. [21:56:37] * orbarron looks
  898. [21:56:39] <borillion> Is it appropriate to use a pandaboard or a beagleboard as the basis for a commercial prototype?
  899. [21:56:50] <elesueur> jzw: so you're connecting your panda to a windows machine with a usb->serial converter?
  900. [21:56:56] <jzw> yep
  901. [21:57:00] <elesueur> got linux?
  902. [21:57:06] <jzw> exactly my thoughts
  903. [21:57:13] <jzw> I was going to remove that from the equation
  904. [21:57:20] <elesueur> would be my first step
  905. [21:57:20] <jzw> unfortunately D1 doesn't light
  906. [21:57:33] <elesueur> i dont think you should expect it to
  907. [21:57:43] <jzw> the videos show it lighting when u-boot hits
  908. [21:57:45] <elesueur> have you got the ubuntu installer image yet?
  909. [21:57:45] <jzw> but
  910. [21:57:56] <borillion> prpplague, Is it appropriate to use a pandaboard or a beagleboard as the basis for a commercial prototype?
  911. [21:58:00] <NishanthMenon> borillion, depends on what you want to do and sourcing details of components etc..
  912. [21:58:02] <jzw> not yet
  913. [21:58:20] <NishanthMenon> omap3 vs omap4 differences etc..
  914. [21:58:21] <jzw> thanks for the help, everyone...I'll probably be back l8r :)
  915. [21:58:26] * jzw (cfabb465@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.171.180.101) Quit ()
  916. [21:58:51] * NishanthMenon privately wonders if the power switch was on for the power supply :D
  917. [21:59:11] <prpplague> borillion: no, please read the FAQ at pandaboard.org
  918. [21:59:36] * NishanthMenon once spend debugging "board no boot" problem and found that power cord was not plugged in :(
  919. [22:00:16] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: serial boot is easy
  920. [22:00:25] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, serial boot not easy on panda
  921. [22:00:33] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, i just checked on my ea1 - no ASIC ID
  922. [22:01:08] <orbarron> NishanthMenon: nope... we have nothing like that...we tend to stick to Linux... however you should be able to get the command line from pandaboard using teraterm or something similar.
  923. [22:01:08] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, a shishkin did a pusb support as well for panda - i suppose that will work
  924. [22:01:15] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: of course you won;t get an asic if there is a sd card present
  925. [22:01:25] <NishanthMenon> orbarron, they seem to have linux support using mono
  926. [22:01:34] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: i serial boot panda all the time, but i usually change the sys_boot config
  927. [22:01:36] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, :D /me removed mmc card before checking for ASIC ID ofcourse
  928. [22:01:50] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: that sounds odd
  929. [22:01:54] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, how to change sysboot config?
  930. [22:02:08] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: change the resistors on the board
  931. [22:02:15] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, no danke
  932. [22:02:30] <borillion> prpplague lol sounds fun
  933. [22:02:43] * NishanthMenon is *not* going to run around with a blowtorch again :P
  934. [22:02:57] <borillion> overkill :P
  935. [22:03:14] <borillion> I hate wearing the goggles to do things LOL
  936. [22:03:20] <NishanthMenon> brb
  937. [22:03:21] <NishanthMenon> meeting
  938. [22:05:16] <borillion> prpplague so getting the processors is hard right, can you recommend anything? I would like to make my own board and add things like NOR flash etc
  939. [22:06:23] <prpplague> borillion: sorry no
  940. [22:06:40] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: i can add a resistor for you if you need it
  941. [22:06:45] <borillion> I have both a beagleboard xm and a pandaboard with no flash :(
  942. [22:06:55] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: doesn't change anything other than adding the uart to the boot order
  943. [22:08:47] <borillion> prpplague do you know if the schematics that are available on the site production ready , pretending I could get all the parts would they produce viable boards?
  944. [22:09:01] <prpplague> borillion: yes
  945. [22:09:47] <borillion> kk
  946. [22:09:57] <borillion> thanks for humoring me LOL
  947. [22:15:06] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, sorry had stepped out. prpplague hope you can put it on omapedia wiki or something
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  949. [22:15:44] <trem> nite all, sweet dreams
  950. [22:15:52] <NishanthMenon> guess i was just curious - nothing specific. nice to know there is an option - mebbe a pushbutton might make sense if folks in the community think that flashing to mmc card is such a pain in the backend
  951. [22:16:10] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: sure all you have to do is add a 3.3k on R119
  952. [22:16:23] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: changes the boot preference from usb otg to uart
  953. [22:16:39] <NishanthMenon> prpplague, thanks. but putting it in wiki is better though.. ;)..
  954. [22:17:17] * eFfeM (~frans@j200125.upc-j.chello.nl) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  955. [22:17:38] * prpplague throws his hands up in the air and repeats "docs? just read the source!"
  956. [22:18:27] * NishanthMenon pokes at prpplague with a sharp blade dipped in poison of amazonian stun-frog :P
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  960. [22:21:45] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: happy? http://omapedia.org/wiki/PandaBoard_FAQ#Can_I_change_the_boot_device_order_to_use_Uart_instead_of_USB.3F
  961. [22:22:08] * NishanthMenon hugs anti-doc prpplague
  962. [22:22:33] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: hehe, i'm not anti-doc, just thought that was something everyone knew
  963. [22:22:50] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: docs are there, just have to put two and two together
  964. [22:22:56] * NishanthMenon wonders if prpplague is Tron :P
  965. [22:23:08] * NishanthMenon is a poor user :(
  966. [22:23:13] <prpplague> hehe
  967. [22:24:05] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: changing it to uart instead of usb also makes it easier to power the board via the usb otg as well
  968. [22:24:32] <NishanthMenon> mebbe consider a push button for EA2?
  969. [22:25:01] <prpplague> NishanthMenon: trust me, i had this conversation long ago
  970. [22:25:22] * NishanthMenon trusts prpplague :D
  971. [22:27:09] <ds2> ``it is obvious'' :D
  972. [22:27:29] <NishanthMenon> :D
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  978. [22:37:05] <eruditehermit> hello, are there open source drivers for the pandaboard gpu?
  979. [22:37:27] <eruditehermit> if not, are there closed source drivers available?
  980. [22:37:35] <Sage> topfs2: ping http://sage.kapsi.fi/MeeGo/xbmc.log
  981. [22:37:52] <prpplague> the drivers are opensource in the linux kernel, however the firmware for the gpu is not open, binary only
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  985. [22:39:35] <Esmil> Say I wanted to compile my own kernel for the pandaboard. Which sources are recommended? I'm not having much success with the version tagged ti-2.6.35-omap4-L24.11-p5
  986. [22:39:44] <Sage> topfs2: it seems that there is error while loading the avcodec-51-arm.so
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  988. [22:40:16] <eruditehermit> prpplague, so imagination open sourced the powervr drivers?
  989. [22:40:40] <eruditehermit> to some extent
  990. [22:40:57] <topfs2> Sage: ah, yeah that would for sure do it :)
  991. [22:41:18] <topfs2> I guess you are using external ffmpeg?
  992. [22:42:00] <prpplague> eruditehermit: lets be clear, the drivers are open and are being pushed into mainline kernel
  993. [22:42:13] <prpplague> eruditehermit: but the drivers do nothing without the firmware
  994. [22:42:18] <prpplague> eruditehermit: everything is in the firmware
  995. [22:42:29] * sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
  996. [22:42:35] <Sage> topfs2: no external ffmpeg
  997. [22:42:46] <eruditehermit> prpplague, is the firmware freely available?
  998. [22:42:58] <topfs2> Hmm weird, would have expected that from external
  999. [22:43:02] <Sage> using the one thet is provide with xbmc (and compiled with --disable-non-free)
  1000. [22:43:07] <eruditehermit> prpplague, and works with new kernels?
  1001. [22:43:21] <eruditehermit> prpplague, by freely I mean easily
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  1004. [22:46:30] <Sage> topfs2: I have external faac, maybe it is that?
  1005. [22:46:45] <Sage> or is that required to be external?
  1006. [22:47:06] <topfs2> faac shouldnt be used for this afaik
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  1011. [22:56:15] <Sage> topfs2: well, reason: /usr/lib/xbmc/system/players/dvdplayer/avcodec-52-arm.so: undefined symbol: NeAACDecSetConfiguration
  1012. [22:56:24] <Sage> topfs2: that sounds like faac thing
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  1015. [22:58:29] <topfs2> hmm, it could be, I'm sorry but I'm not to good with this :)
  1016. [22:58:36] <topfs2> but sounds worthy to disable it
  1017. [22:59:52] <sraue> topfs2... thats a known problem sometimes ( i dont have followed the conversation, but this error i known...)
  1018. [23:00:10] <_av500_> why do you need faac at all?
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  1021. [23:01:28] <topfs2> _av500_: think its to encode from aac to ac3 or something like that (please don't shoot me if thats wrong, really not my area of expertise :) )
  1022. [23:01:32] <topfs2> sraue: you know how to fix?
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  1024. [23:02:05] <sraue> it comes for example from using "-Wl,--as-needed"
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  1028. [23:05:58] <_av500_> topfs2: faac encodes aac
  1029. [23:06:31] <Sage> sraue: so if compiling with --as-needed the error comes?
  1030. [23:06:45] <sraue> Sage, yes
  1031. [23:06:48] <topfs2> _av500_: so the other way around then :)
  1032. [23:06:52] <Sage> sraue: so doing unset LD_AS_NEDEED before starting the compile it should work?
  1033. [23:07:34] <sraue> for me it works if i compile xbmc without -Wl,--as-needed
  1034. [23:07:44] <Sage> ok
  1035. [23:07:51] <sraue> all other things from my distro is compiled with -Wl,--as-needed
  1036. [23:07:54] <Sage> I'll try that then. Thanks for the info.
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  1049. [23:29:36] <Esmil> Yay! I finally managed to get screen output through DVI. I ended up compiling the ubuntu kernel sources, heh
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