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IRC Log for 2011-01-01

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  11. [01:58:23] <Epichero> is the pandaboard everything advertised ?
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  15. [02:26:08] <ds2> @!#$%!@#!@#!@#@#!@ a microscope should be on the accessory list
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  39. [08:58:12] <uknoob> hi. is the board released? I get an availability of 24/3/11 on both the US and UK digikey sites.
  40. [08:58:33] <uknoob> erm... that's 24th March for the Yanks
  41. [09:00:42] <ds2> yes, it is release... btw... 24MAR2011 would have been completely nonambigious to everyone
  42. [09:01:33] <uknoob> true - but I'm digital not mixed-mode - I can't do alphanumeric :)
  43. [09:02:15] <ds2> BLAH :P
  44. [09:02:35] <ds2> try disambiguating 03/02/11 :P
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  46. [09:02:55] <uknoob> thanks for the heads-up anyway - usual story - now that I know the beasty exists I want one NOW NOW NOW :)
  47. [09:03:56] <ds2> =)
  48. [09:04:28] <ds2> that's why I prefer 24hour time in GMT with DDMMMYYYY =)
  49. [09:05:38] <uknoob> I admit the alpanumeric date is unambiguous but it's kind of hard wired to type dd/mm/yy because that's the standard usage in the UK
  50. [09:06:59] <ds2> I understand... same problem with folks here wanting to do mm/dd/yy and then hh:mm[AM|PM]
  51. [09:07:50] <uknoob> BTW I've got a Samsung S3C2440 test kit here a the mo - I'm guessing the Orion blows the socks/sox off that *G*?
  52. [09:08:20] <ds2> Orion?
  53. [09:08:33] <ds2> the 2440 is a nice processor for what it does
  54. [09:08:33] <uknoob> that's the processor on the pandaboard I think?
  55. [09:08:58] <ds2> I donno the code name... but it is an OMAP4
  56. [09:09:28] <uknoob> ah, I maybe getting my wires crossed - the Orion might be the Samsung Cortex 9 part
  57. [09:09:52] <uknoob> I'm a bit fixated on the Samsung catalog at the moment as they send me samples :)
  58. [09:10:19] <ds2> could be; heh... are the Samsung Cortex A(ANY) purchaseable in small quantities at all?
  59. [09:11:22] <uknoob> I can't get a straight answer for that - I suspect all production is going into seeding development kits and developers at present - can't get any solid pricing either yet
  60. [09:12:30] <ds2> rumor is samsung is trying to discourage low volume use of their parts beyond the 24xx series?
  61. [09:12:57] <uknoob> might be the usual story - high profile customers get first dibs and then us small guys get the table scraps
  62. [09:13:27] <ds2> *shrug*
  63. [09:14:15] <uknoob> that's why this pandaboard caught my eye - seems a good way to get an early sample
  64. [09:15:51] <ds2> isn't it a bit early for you on new years day?
  65. [09:16:52] <uknoob> I'm not a drinker so all I did was stay up late, eat too many crisps (chips) and sing auld-lang-sign
  66. [09:17:15] <ds2> heh
  67. [09:18:19] <ds2> what would you do if I told you to hold a torch to your board ;)
  68. [09:18:59] <uknoob> eh? plasma torch, creme-brulee torch or flashlight?
  69. [09:19:11] <ds2> you decide ;)
  70. [09:19:46] <uknoob> seems a strange question... I'll go with the plasma torch - I've got one in the workshop
  71. [09:20:07] <ds2> you seem to be translating all the UKism as you go along
  72. [09:20:28] <ds2> so... I figure I'll throw a spanner into your works }:-)
  73. [09:20:40] <uknoob> ah,I lived in the states for a couple of years so I'm pretty slang proof
  74. [09:20:53] <uknoob> monkey-wrench even :)
  75. [09:21:48] <ds2> then what do you expect if I tell your the board arrives in a truck ;)
  76. [09:22:06] <uknoob> lorry
  77. [09:22:18] <ds2> I see.
  78. [09:22:21] <uknoob> or van - depends on the size
  79. [09:22:39] <ds2> isn't a truck to you a hand cart/dolly thingie?
  80. [09:23:30] <uknoob> it could be but common usage nowadays would be for a lorry or large van - too many american programmes on the telly
  81. [09:24:24] <ds2> oh... that's what I get for watching old BBC programs here
  82. [09:24:26] <uknoob> we won't get into what a pat on the fanny means over here LOL
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  84. [09:26:22] <ds2> that must be newer then the old "are you being served" series
  85. [09:27:32] <uknoob> geez... 'I'm free'... cor - that is old -mid 70s at a guess
  86. [09:27:58] <uknoob> when I was over there PBS played Doctor Who 24 hours a day
  87. [09:28:15] <uknoob> ...when they were'nt begging for money of course
  88. [09:28:37] <ds2> nice, I miss the old doctor
  89. [09:31:18] <uknoob> I think you're getting iplayer - which is the BBC streaming service at the end of this month - it's been blocked from US iIPs until now
  90. [09:31:18] <ds2> but that's for the 10th/11th doctor only
  91. [09:31:18] <ds2> i want to see the old 3rd docs with the bridgeer
  92. [09:31:18] <uknoob> yes, I think the older stuff is only on the lower end cable channels now
  93. [09:31:19] <uknoob> LOL... you like the old John Pertwee and Tom Baker days
  94. [09:31:19] <ds2> yes, even patrick troughton
  95. [09:31:46] <ds2> where the companions are let's say more intellectual then attempts at baiting the biological urges
  96. [09:31:57] <uknoob> patirck troughton episodes predate me - or at least I was too young to watch them - it was the John Pertwee stuff that had me hiding behind the sofa
  97. [09:33:20] <uknoob> I dunno - John Pertwee sidekick was the only one that took her clothes off in a mens magazine
  98. [09:33:57] <ds2> but not on the series
  99. [09:34:21] <uknoob> true - although the latest redhead (Amy Pond) is certainly very decorative :)
  100. [09:34:21] <ds2> Rose just didn't seem inline with the older companions
  101. [09:35:04] <ds2> they haven't shown the last season here (after the big departure scene with rose)
  102. [09:35:48] <uknoob> unfortunately the new plots are complete garbage - a triumph of style over substance - the early stuff was very limited by sets and production but at least the plots were thought through
  103. [09:36:24] <uknoob> we just had the latest Christmas special - it wasn't up to much :(
  104. [09:36:51] <ds2> is that the 10-15min thing they do for Children in need?
  105. [09:38:12] <uknoob> no... it's a full episode usually made around a Christmas theme - homicidal robotic Santa's stalking the streets, etc. - it was a bad pun on Charles Dickens Chritmas Carol this year
  106. [09:43:02] <ds2> oh... the one I remember was the time crash where the 10th doctor meets the 5th doctor right before the run away bride episode
  107. [09:45:50] <uknoob> not sure I remember that one... not sure I even know the doctors by number without scratching my head a bit...
  108. [09:47:34] <ds2> the one after the leather jacket one; it is the one where rose officially left the first time around
  109. [09:48:47] <uknoob> David Tennant?
  110. [09:48:55] <ds2> think so
  111. [09:49:02] <ds2> the second of the new doctors, right?
  112. [09:49:23] <uknoob> erm... little Scots guy - very trendy
  113. [09:50:53] <uknoob> brb - I need to brew some more coffee
  114. [09:52:09] <ds2> yes, David Tennant (wikipedia to the rescue)
  115. [09:56:28] <uknoob> back - yeah, while brewing the coffee I realised it had to be him because the current one is #11
  116. [09:59:00] <ds2> heh
  117. [10:04:44] <uknoob> bye for now
  118. [10:05:06] <ds2> bye
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  137. [15:50:20] <trem_> hi all
  138. [15:52:29] <trem_> I've just got a pandaboard, when I put on the board, nothing appear on the serial output
  139. [15:52:52] <trem_> the board hasn't a "default" boot ?
  140. [15:53:11] <sakoman_> no, you need to have a bootable SD card
  141. [15:54:26] <trem_> that explain step2 .....
  142. [15:54:27] <trem_> thanks
  143. [15:54:54] <trem_> my power suppy isn't a 4A, is it really usefull to have a 4A power supply ?
  144. [15:57:51] <sakoman_> If you intend to fully load the USB ports, yes
  145. [15:58:45] <sakoman_> My Panda, with all USB devices on a powered hub, uses 560mA @ 5V
  146. [15:59:04] <trem_> I just want to start it
  147. [15:59:19] <sakoman_> so you can of course get by with a less capable power supply if you watch what you are doing
  148. [16:00:06] <trem_> I've got a 500mA power supply ...
  149. [16:00:24] <sakoman_> probably not good enough
  150. [16:00:59] <trem_> oups, no, a 1500mA
  151. [16:01:43] <sakoman_> should be fine then
  152. [16:02:08] <sakoman_> as I said above mine uses 560mA running the GNOME image I build
  153. [16:02:44] <sakoman_> so 1500mA should be OK as long as you don't load up on directly connected USB devices
  154. [16:02:50] <trem_> what is the minimum size of the sd card ?
  155. [16:03:04] <sakoman_> depends on what image you run
  156. [16:03:12] <trem_> minimal rootfs
  157. [16:03:22] <trem_> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Minimal-FS
  158. [16:03:24] <trem_> this one
  159. [16:03:47] <sakoman_> the smallest SD card I have is 2GB and I know that works even for GNOME
  160. [16:04:11] <sakoman_> I imagine you could get by with something smaller for the minimal-FS
  161. [16:04:25] <sakoman_> but don't know what the lower limit is
  162. [16:06:08] <trem_> I've found a 32MB sd card ....
  163. [16:07:37] <trem_> I try ....
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  165. [16:10:12] <sakoman_> 32MB might be a bit small. IIRC the fat partition is usually 32MB, so that would leave no room for the rootfs
  166. [16:13:58] <trem_> the fat partition is the /boot partition ?
  167. [16:21:47] <sakoman_> trem: yes, fat partition will contain the 2 stage boot loaders (MLO and u-boot) and the kernel
  168. [16:22:28] <sakoman_> so I guess you can at least see the kernel load & boot (then hang looking for a rootfs)
  169. [16:22:50] <sakoman_> but I recommend you get yourself a bigger SD card :-)
  170. [16:23:15] <trem_> yes ..... because : WARNING: Not enough clusters for a 32 bit FAT!
  171. [16:23:30] <trem_> when I try to format my sdb1 partition ....
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  179. [17:13:24] <ZaraXVI> hello
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  183. [17:51:05] <trem_> sakoman_: thanks a lot, with the help of the bigger sd-card, it works fine
  184. [17:51:10] <trem_> with a minimal-fs
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  197. [18:37:17] <trem_> I try to build u-boot from git repository, but it fails if I use the last tag ...
  198. [18:37:22] <trem_> L24.11
  199. [18:37:30] <trem_> the config isn't found
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  201. [19:20:52] <ZaraXVI> hello
  202. [19:21:11] <ZaraXVI> is there a prebuilt wince for the board ?
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  210. [20:22:45] <npmccallum> Is there anywhere else to buy a PandaBoard since digikey is sold out?
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  212. [20:25:53] <dm8tbr> digikey is not sold out.they are on backorder
  213. [20:26:10] <dm8tbr> order now get a spot in queue
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  226. [23:06:49] <freak132> Hello. Is the M-Shield subsystem enabled on the pandaboard's omap4?
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