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  35. [03:17:19] <student> hi all
  36. [03:17:35] <student> I have a question
  37. [03:17:45] <bpadalino> a question? what's that?
  38. [03:18:19] <student> where would I get a good tutorial on designing an omap board?
  39. [03:18:34] <bpadalino> trial and error?
  40. [03:19:14] <student> that's an option, but still foundational principles would be nice
  41. [03:19:15] <student> :)
  42. [03:19:29] <bpadalino> have you made yourself a pcb ?
  43. [03:19:44] <student> sadly, no
  44. [03:20:03] <student> I always buy those
  45. [03:20:04] <bpadalino> start simple and easy - 2 layer .. do some experiments .. learn what works and what doesn't ..
  46. [03:20:17] <bpadalino> then move to more complexity
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  48. [03:20:34] <bpadalino> there's no replacement for more space when it comes to aggressors acting on your signals ..
  49. [03:20:59] <bpadalino> make sure you have return paths for all your current flowing in your systems ..
  50. [03:21:39] <student> I know that there are standards for designing boards
  51. [03:22:22] <student> question is, are there manuals for these standards, or do I have to start with a working product and mod it to death
  52. [03:22:42] <student> without knowing for sure why my mods are doing OK
  53. [03:28:19] <bpadalino> if you're working with digital stuff with relatively low frequencies .. you can be pretty loose with your design
  54. [03:28:29] <bpadalino> 5Gbps transceivers or RF analog design ..
  55. [03:28:35] <bpadalino> takes a little more care
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  59. [03:40:55] <ds2> slew rate can kill you even at low freq
  60. [03:42:12] <bpadalino> don't drive 1F capacitive loads
  61. [03:44:01] <ds2> some of us like backups on the RTC ;)
  62. [03:44:40] <bpadalino> sure, but you don't drive a digital line into your supercap, do you ?
  63. [03:45:00] <ds2> depending on how I charge, I may
  64. [03:45:31] <bpadalino> wow, interesting .. still - there's no digital logic which could cause metastability issues
  65. [03:45:45] <ds2> *nod*
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  67. [03:46:01] <ds2> but then I also use 4xxx logic in analog mode
  68. [03:51:08] <bpadalino> that can work out well
  69. [03:53:01] <bpadalino> you know, one thing i've never designed with was a 555 timer
  70. [03:53:17] <ds2> wasn't there an app note or project on using the digital output of a uC to control a switching supply?
  71. [03:53:25] <ds2> drive a big fet
  72. [03:54:49] <bpadalino> oh maybe
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  76. [04:02:49] <firefly> does anyone here cosult?
  77. [04:03:04] <ds2> cosult?
  78. [04:03:10] <firefly> sorry
  79. [04:03:13] <firefly> consult
  80. [04:03:20] <ds2> what are you looking for?
  81. [04:03:34] <firefly> omap board design
  82. [04:03:43] <ds2> which omap?
  83. [04:03:51] <firefly> pardon my ambiguity
  84. [04:04:15] <ds2> and where in the world are you? (short answer, is yes...quite a few folks)
  85. [04:04:22] <firefly> pandaboard is an omap board?
  86. [04:04:32] <bpadalino> logicpd makes some interesting modules that may interest you
  87. [04:04:36] <ds2> pandaboard is an omap4 board...there are many families of omaps
  88. [04:04:39] <bpadalino> gumstix makes some interesting boards
  89. [04:04:53] <ds2> let's figure out what generation of omap
  90. [04:05:11] <bpadalino> if you need something custom, you're going to need $$$$$.$$ most likely
  91. [04:05:26] <ds2> maybe $$$$.$$ ;)
  92. [04:05:38] <bpadalino> wow, you're cheap! :)
  93. [04:05:45] <firefly> what I need to know is how much I would need to have something designed
  94. [04:05:55] <firefly> say, something close to a chumby
  95. [04:06:03] <ds2> how many do you want?
  96. [04:06:08] <bpadalino> if it's close to a chumby, why not buy a chumby and a soldering iron ?
  97. [04:06:16] <ds2> 1unit? 1,000,000 units? something in between?
  98. [04:06:30] <firefly> I have my reasons
  99. [04:06:40] <bpadalino> ds2 brings up good questions
  100. [04:06:59] <ds2> OB disclosure, yes, I do provide such services.
  101. [04:07:01] <firefly> but as I said, close to
  102. [04:07:24] <ds2> but so do other people here... trying to avoid too much comemercial stuff in a community channel
  103. [04:07:42] <firefly> what shoud my budget look like if I wanted to contact you, or someone like you on the same?
  104. [04:07:46] <bpadalino> ds2, how much for you to design a board with an fpga, omap, some adc and dac's on it - figure 8 layers and possibly a pcie x4 finger ?
  105. [04:07:54] <bpadalino> so signal integrity is important
  106. [04:08:04] <ds2> firefly: depends on a lot of things
  107. [04:08:36] <ds2> bpadalino: I donno... the quote can be from $1 to $1,000,000,000 depending on important details :D
  108. [04:08:53] <firefly> OK
  109. [04:09:01] <bpadalino> oh, man! damned details
  110. [04:09:07] <firefly> d2: to give me a simple estimate
  111. [04:09:21] <ds2> firefly: need info to quote... there is a huge range of possible prices and small details can mean a big difference
  112. [04:09:21] <firefly> lets say you were to design this board here
  113. [04:09:22] <firefly> http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46&products_id=278
  114. [04:09:48] <firefly> how much would it cost? how long would it take?
  115. [04:09:51] <bpadalino> firefly, is he doing the layout AND schematic, or just the layout ?
  116. [04:10:07] <firefly> the whole thing
  117. [04:11:05] <firefly> at the end, I get a board on which I can load my linux, or components to solder on to a bread board
  118. [04:11:41] <ds2> like I said, it can have a huge range in costs... that's a pretty generic request
  119. [04:13:35] <nhg> ds2: hope you're putting an omap on that board ;-)
  120. [04:15:02] <ds2> oops
  121. [04:15:24] <ds2> nhg: for low enough volumes, I can pull OMAP1's off 770's or salvage OSKs =)
  122. [04:19:27] <ds2> bbl, food
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  126. [04:45:01] <nhg> anyone have some linux distribution running where /proc/cpuinfo prints the right Mhz for the 2 cores on panda?
  127. [04:50:42] <sakoman> nhg: afaik /proc/cpuinfo only gives BogoMIPS
  128. [04:50:59] <nhg> yup...that's what I found also
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  130. [04:51:27] <nhg> sakoman: what's the best way to find the clock speeds?
  131. [04:52:00] <nhg> bootloaders also don't seem to print anything on startup
  132. [04:54:37] <sakoman> nhg: don't know of a simple method
  133. [04:55:26] <nhg> sakoman: how about the hard method? I can peek/poke at registers using JTAG if needed
  134. [04:56:23] * nhg looks through the TRM
  135. [04:56:25] <sakoman> nhg: that would be that hard method :-)
  136. [04:56:46] <sakoman> why do you need to do this?
  137. [04:57:19] <nhg> just want to confirm 1Ghz operation when running ubuntu on panda for example
  138. [04:58:10] <nhg> I think BogoMIPS numbers I got were like 2000 and 1900....no idea what that means
  139. [04:59:10] <sakoman> I get 1195.29 BogoMIPS per processor and I am 99.9% sure I am running at 1Ghz
  140. [04:59:40] <nhg> running Ubuntu are u?
  141. [04:59:57] <sakoman> no
  142. [05:00:07] <sakoman> very similar kernel, but my own user space
  143. [05:00:15] <nhg> ok
  144. [05:00:36] <sakoman> it's GNOME user space I built
  145. [05:02:04] <nhg> any idea what this 1195.29 BogoMIPS actually mean?
  146. [05:02:57] <sakoman> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips
  147. [05:04:17] <nhg> yes saw that
  148. [05:05:17] <sakoman> for OMAP3 bogoMIPS were roughly equal to clock rate (within a few percent)
  149. [05:05:45] <sakoman> looks like for OMAP4 that bogoMIPS may be ~20% higher than clock
  150. [05:07:01] <nhg> right....when I read "bogus" and "unscientific" in that wiki and when I got 2000 and 1900 for bogoMIPS on ubuntu on panda....didn't want to trust it
  151. [05:07:30] <nhg> if you're 99.9% sure....its good enough
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  153. [05:14:29] <nhg> sakoman: thanks
  154. [05:14:54] <sakoman> not sure I helped all that much, but you are welcome!
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  159. [06:01:59] <armin76> sakoman: thats rather weird, maybe you have cpu scaling? (if it works)
  160. [06:02:21] <armin76> http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/pandaboard/cpuinfo.txt
  161. [06:05:04] <sakoman> armin76: or maybe that .01% is biting me and I'm really not running at 1Ghz :-)
  162. [06:05:43] <sakoman> armin76: what kernel are you running?
  163. [06:09:05] <ds2> is cpufreq up enough to print out the current clock?
  164. [06:13:33] <armin76> sakoman: 24.11
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  172. [07:48:47] <overflowed> is a SPI inteface on the expansion header of the pandaboard present?
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  174. [07:59:07] <av500> yes
  175. [08:03:56] <LetoThe2nd> moin
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  178. [08:15:49] <guerby> armin76, pandaboard up and running, but some kernel backtraces: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/690370
  179. [08:23:44] <overflowed> anybody using a cheap lcd with touch between 3" and 7" on the pandaboard, what do you suggest spi, ttl, lvds or even something over USB or dvi? should be cheap
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  181. [08:43:18] <shadenzo> hello
  182. [08:44:02] <shadenzo> does pandaboard have enough power supply to drive an external usb 2,5" hard drive ?
  183. [08:46:22] <av500> the panda has no power supply
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  185. [08:48:12] <shadenzo> i mean with the external power supply , by the usb , can it run a usb ext hd
  186. [08:49:28] <LetoThe2nd> then why not just take a supply thats big enough and connect both of them directly?
  187. [08:50:45] <shadenzo> i need to know if a usb out of tha panda can drive a usb hd
  188. [08:52:02] <LetoThe2nd> shadenzo: in that case, the answer is: if not sure, no. provide specs of the specific usb hds power consumption.
  189. [08:53:47] <shadenzo> LetoThe2nd, ok just a moment
  190. [08:55:33] <shadenzo> LetoThe2nd, it's 5V , 0,85 A
  191. [08:56:49] <LetoThe2nd> shadenzo: the answer can only be _NO_, as the usb specs will clearly tell you.
  192. [08:57:19] <shadenzo> ok thanks
  193. [08:58:10] <LetoThe2nd> av500: i feel like its buzzword time again.
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  195. [09:08:23] <Sp4rKy> morning
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  197. [09:30:16] <shadenzo> LetoThe2nd, where can i find the usb specs you talked about ? i want to learn some more info about the panda before purchaese , thanks
  198. [09:33:23] <LetoThe2nd> shadenzo: http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/usb_20_081810.zip
  199. [09:33:55] <shadenzo> tahks again
  200. [09:35:11] <LetoThe2nd> the next lmgtfy is 5€, 5GPB or 10USD, depending on your location ;-)
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  202. [09:49:19] <shadenzo> ;-)
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  210. [10:12:04] <shadenzo> i need to boot panda fron usb HD , is there a simple how to to do that ? (i know that in first stage it will boot from sd no problem )
  211. [10:12:53] <shadenzo> tank you for your patience :)
  212. [10:15:02] * florian_kc is now known as florian
  213. [10:15:06] <overflowed> shadenzo: mount the rootfs from the usb hdd, don't know whats your problem
  214. [10:17:04] <shadenzo> overflowed, i am gathering info , i do not have pandaboard , can you give more detail ?
  215. [10:18:49] <overflowed> shadenzo: don't really know what you want to know but you can connect your hd with the pandaboard (maybe use a powered usb hub if the hdd doesn't is external powered) build a kernel with the necessary modules to mount rootfs from hdd and install it on the sd card
  216. [10:19:42] <shadenzo> thanks overflowed
  217. [10:19:44] <overflowed> then you should be able to use the hdd as rootfs (i believe this is what you want to do?
  218. [10:20:01] <shadenzo> yes it is
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  220. [10:21:51] <firefly> any hardware design consultants in here?
  221. [10:22:19] <firefly> what's the average hourly rate?
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  235. [12:24:34] <rsv> is there s-video on pandaboard?
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  237. [12:27:01] <mru> no
  238. [12:27:06] <mru> not as a connector at least
  239. [12:27:17] <mru> possibly on the expansion port
  240. [12:28:16] <rsv> thanks
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  249. [13:06:15] <J_P> Hi all
  250. [13:13:29] <av500> rsv: its there on an unpopulated jumper
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  254. [13:26:26] <Guest92605> anybody here with x-loader work ?
  255. [13:26:55] <rsv> anyone made a board to use s-video signals? like some addon?
  256. [13:27:15] <rsv> we just need a connector right?
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  258. [13:27:42] * zero0 connect check
  259. [13:28:21] <zero0> is anybody working with x-loader ?
  260. [13:28:29] <zero0> I need some help
  261. [13:29:00] <rsv> zero0: yes what is it?
  262. [13:29:01] <J_P> A question about a USB HUB anda padaboard: If I to use a 16 port USB HUB, the Linux on pandaboard will be recognize 16 more devices in /dev/USB... right? If yes.. is possible to put 16 USB cameras on that for capture images simultaneously.. That will be works..?
  263. [13:29:49] <zero0> I am looking out in x-loader code and there is confutsion in prcm-init
  264. [13:30:05] <rsv> J_P: i guess only when you connect a usb device to one of its ports it will recognise, it will also recognise usb hub as a device
  265. [13:30:16] <zero0> rsv: scale_vcores
  266. [13:31:05] <zero0> rsv: what is it telling through PRM_VC_VAL_BYPASS ?
  267. [13:31:24] <rsv> zero0: sorry, not sure
  268. [13:31:54] <J_P> rsv: ok. but so if I will to connect 16 usb cameras in that 16 ports usb hub I will be have 16 devices... and capture that simultaneously via one REAL usb port. What you think?
  269. [13:32:51] <rsv> J_P: i havent met anyone who has done that. why do you want to do that?
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  271. [13:33:26] <mru> J_P: that will never work
  272. [13:33:42] <J_P> rsv: because I would like to have 16 cameras in pandaboard..
  273. [13:33:43] <rsv> why do you want to connect 16 cameras. there might be throughput/load issues
  274. [13:33:47] <J_P> mru: why not?
  275. [13:33:57] <mru> mathematics
  276. [13:34:12] <J_P> rsv: will be need few frames per second
  277. [13:34:24] <J_P> mru: please, clarify..
  278. [13:34:35] <mru> what data rate do you expect from each camera?
  279. [13:35:33] <rsv> J_P: connecting too many cameras, depends on fps each camera and processing the frames. 16 camera! not sure. might not work
  280. [13:35:41] <rsv> J_P: what you want to achive
  281. [13:35:45] <J_P> mru: 2Mbit/s
  282. [13:35:49] <rsv> application?
  283. [13:36:27] <mru> J_P: and frame rate?
  284. [13:36:36] <J_P> rsv: 2 x 16 = 32 Mbit/s. ONE USB port 2.0 is capable much more than that
  285. [13:36:46] <mru> it's not that simple
  286. [13:37:17] <J_P> mru: The limitation I will do via Mbit/s. If is 2 or 10 fps not problem. I will to configure to not passa more than 2Mbit/s eash camera
  287. [13:37:18] <rsv> J_P: its not just USB alone. it also is OMAP
  288. [13:37:47] <mru> J_P: raw video or compressed?
  289. [13:37:57] <mru> you're not giving us enough details
  290. [13:38:03] <rsv> i guess yuv422
  291. [13:38:31] <rsv> J_P: what you will do with the 16 camera data?
  292. [13:38:42] <J_P> rsv: I will to use (if works in arm) the V4L2.. so I will be capture raw and compress after
  293. [13:39:10] <J_P> rsv: save in SD card and transmit via ethernet port and/or WLAN
  294. [13:39:11] <rsv> compress and store? or transmit elsewhere?
  295. [13:39:21] <J_P> rsv: both
  296. [13:39:34] <merbzt> J_P: most likely you wont have the cpu for that
  297. [13:39:41] <rsv> J_P: i had a problem doing that with one camera
  298. [13:39:54] <av500> for 16 cams he can encode 2fps each
  299. [13:40:02] <J_P> rsv: problem for save or to compress or to transmit?
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  301. [13:40:08] <mru> raw video at 2Mbps will give you less than 2fps at 320x240
  302. [13:40:09] <rsv> both simulataneously
  303. [13:40:31] <J_P> av500: I will think to compress using the IVA3 (h264) to not to use the main ARM
  304. [13:41:11] <rsv> J_P: i was doing that. had a aproblem but it should have worked. not spent too much time optimising
  305. [13:41:17] <J_P> mru: why to not use the iva3 power to compress
  306. [13:41:29] <J_P> mru: are you using just arm to compress?
  307. [13:41:39] <mru> first you have to get image into the chip
  308. [13:41:43] <mru> you said 2Mbps
  309. [13:41:43] <J_P> sorry. wuestion was to rs
  310. [13:41:45] <J_P> rsv:
  311. [13:41:52] <rsv> on dsp
  312. [13:41:58] <av500> J_P: you can encode 480x270 x 16 in one 1080p frame :)
  313. [13:42:28] <mru> first figure out how to capture all that raw image data, then worry about encoding
  314. [13:42:39] <av500> yes, the bottleneck is on capture
  315. [13:43:05] <mru> 16 cameras at 1fps each can theoretically work
  316. [13:43:12] <mru> if you manage to stagger the capture times
  317. [13:43:24] <av500> usb will stagger them nicely :)
  318. [13:43:27] <mru> you can't have them all transmitting at once
  319. [13:43:36] <av500> are usb cam iso?
  320. [13:43:45] <av500> i guess they all have a framebuffer
  321. [13:43:56] <mru> if they support isochronous mode it should work
  322. [13:44:12] <av500> if they are non iso and have a framebuffer, it should work too
  323. [13:44:13] <J_P> mru: what is isochrnous?
  324. [13:44:46] <mru> an isochronous device is allocated a periodic slice of usb bandwidth
  325. [13:45:13] <mru> av500: unless the bus arbitration sucks
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  327. [13:45:50] <mru> how does it schedule multiple devices contending for bandwidth?
  328. [13:46:27] <merbzt> mru: magic
  329. [13:47:22] <mru> is it up to the hub?
  330. [13:48:43] <J_P> mru: well, but all that images captured in raw format cam be to compress using IVA3 (h264 dsp) right, for afater save/transmit ?
  331. [13:51:59] <robclark> probably encoding isn't the problem.. USB seems like it would be the bottleneck
  332. [13:52:04] <av500> yes
  333. [13:52:10] <av500> and I would just try it on a PC 1st
  334. [13:52:14] <av500> should be easy to test
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  336. [14:00:37] <koen> robclark: I though I had enabled xorg 1.9.x, but it seems I was still on 1.8.x, changing that now
  337. [14:01:36] <robclark> koen: I'm pretty sure that is the issue.. although it was quite rude of xorg to make it difficult for drivers to be compatible with different versions of xorg :-/
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  339. [14:02:17] <robclark> maybe there is some #ifdef that I could use to compile differently for 1.8 vs 1.9?
  340. [14:02:29] <koen> probably
  341. [14:02:34] <koen> but I hate #ifdefs :)
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  343. [14:02:38] <koen> (although TI likes them)
  344. [14:03:08] <robclark> yeah, generally I dislike them.. but in this case, I don't know if there is any better option
  345. [14:03:15] <mru> all corps do
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  353. [14:29:03] <jayabharath> OMAP tutorial hour is about to start in a couple of min.. if you are interested to join - details are at http://bit.ly/dJFCI1
  354. [14:29:49] <av500> wow, i can haz listen to nishant speak
  355. [14:30:19] <jayabharath> he he.. ;)
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  357. [14:40:07] <koen> robclark: have you tried xf86-video-v4l2 with a L24.11 kernel?
  358. [14:40:33] <mru> what does that do?
  359. [14:40:38] <robclark> no.. although I've used pvr_video which does similar things with v4l2
  360. [14:41:55] <koen> robclark: http://pastebin.com/AubqQ0np
  361. [14:46:38] <bernard_> from the TRM: "The ICEPick module implements a connect register, which must be configured with a predefined key to enable the full set of JTAG instructions."
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  363. [14:47:01] <bernard_> anyone know if this predefined key is secret? or just a magic number to stop accidental badness?
  364. [14:47:22] <robclark> koen: I get the same.. although I don't know if it is a problem..
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  370. [14:58:26] <koen> mplayer -vo xv doesn't like it
  371. [14:58:44] <koen> robclark: haven't tried xvimagesink yet, though
  372. [14:58:58] <mru> xv over v4l sounds like a bad idea
  373. [14:59:20] <robclark> koen: use v4l2sink
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  375. [15:00:06] <robclark> with xoverlay, it is just doing a XvPutVideo(), and then passing buffers thru v4l2..
  376. [15:00:13] <robclark> sort of a hybrid between v4l2 and xv
  377. [15:00:24] <koen> xvimagesink.c(1433): gst_xvimagesink_get_xv_support (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstXvImageSink:xvimagesink0:
  378. [15:00:28] <koen> No port available
  379. [15:00:56] <mru> it's probably trying to do putimage
  380. [15:01:03] <mru> what does xvinfo say?
  381. [15:03:29] <koen> mru: http://pastebin.com/AubqQ0np
  382. [15:03:38] <mru> as I thought
  383. [15:03:39] * koen hops onto a syslink confcall
  384. [15:03:43] <mru> operations supported: PutVideo
  385. [15:03:56] <mru> xvimagesink probably looks for a PutImage-capable port
  386. [15:04:25] <robclark> probably.. but PutImage is evil
  387. [15:05:41] <mru> and then xvinfo itself fails on a GetPortAttribute request
  388. [15:06:25] <robclark> yeah.. probably something I'm not doing right..
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  391. [15:07:39] <mru> seems like reading the value of XV_ENCODING failed
  392. [15:07:52] <mru> even though it is marked as gettable
  393. [15:07:55] * mru blames driver
  394. [15:08:10] <mru> and yes, PutImage is evil
  395. [15:08:12] <robclark> yeah.. I probably need to set a value somewhere..
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  398. [15:08:37] <mru> every attribute has a default value
  399. [15:08:53] <robclark> xf86-video-v4l2 was my first xorg driver.. so plenty of room for me to have screwed something up
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  401. [15:10:02] <sid> hello
  402. [15:10:06] <sid> can someone tell me
  403. [15:10:21] <sid> consumption which pandaboard has
  404. [15:10:38] <koen> 5 pounds of bamboo per day
  405. [15:10:38] <nhg> consumption?
  406. [15:10:48] <nhg> hehe
  407. [15:11:03] <firefly_> hehehe
  408. [15:11:09] <nhg> power consumption?
  409. [15:11:17] <sid> yes...
  410. [15:11:32] <nhg> http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Panda_Test_Data
  411. [15:11:58] <firefly_> I need a hardware design consultant
  412. [15:12:03] <mru> what is the power consumption of a russian prime minister?
  413. [15:12:10] <sid> thank you!
  414. [15:12:21] <av500> mru: in liters?
  415. [15:12:29] <mru> of vodka?
  416. [15:12:31] <firefly_> can I get a rate from anyone here someone here?
  417. [15:12:33] <nhg> Meego on Panda presentation going on now...if anyone is interested
  418. [15:12:40] <J_P> av500: mru: rsv: I test here in PC capturing using V4L2 30 FPS 640x480 and are using 3-4% of cpu. Just capturing, not show, save or compress images..
  419. [15:13:05] * av500 listens to Nishant mentioning sector 63 issue in meego
  420. [15:13:26] <av500> J_P: 1 camera or 16?
  421. [15:13:28] <nhg> WebEx: https://ti.webex.com/mw0306lb/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=ti Meeting Number: 751 133 275
  422. [15:13:35] <J_P> av500: 1
  423. [15:13:37] <av500> nhg: pong btw
  424. [15:13:42] <av500> J_P: now try 16
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  426. [15:14:57] <J_P> av500: I don't have 16 to test.. :-(
  427. [15:15:14] <av500> so test 15
  428. [15:15:20] <J_P> av500: well, but in pandaboard V4L2 works fine?
  429. [15:15:34] <J_P> av500: today I have just two.. :-)
  430. [15:15:49] <J_P> av500: when will be possible I will to test more..
  431. [15:17:17] <J_P> av500: do you know if in pandaboard V4L2 works fine, like as in PC?
  432. [15:17:45] <av500> no idea for usb capturing
  433. [15:17:55] <mru> v4l2 works differently everywhere
  434. [15:18:09] <mru> I have yet to see two compatible drivers
  435. [15:18:35] <koen> mru: sintel now has a 4k version online
  436. [15:20:28] <koen> wait, that was just a marketing blurb
  437. [15:21:12] <J_P> mru: my questino is about if in linux/arm (pandaboard) I will can to use V4L2 for capturing or not..
  438. [15:21:13] <mru> someone should shoot them for doing 2048-wide renders too
  439. [15:21:35] <mru> most monitors are 1920
  440. [15:21:54] <mru> I do have one 2048x1152, but I wouldn't watch video on it
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  443. [15:25:13] * av500 knows all about meego on omap4
  444. [15:26:21] <jannau> av500: is it doomed?
  445. [15:26:33] <av500> dunno, but its upstream!
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  462. [16:25:50] <Ori> hello all
  463. [16:26:48] <orbarron> hello Ori
  464. [16:27:10] <Ori> hi or, nice to meet u
  465. [16:28:02] <Ori> i was wondering if anybody could help me out with MMC support over PandaBoard
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  467. [16:32:32] <lnx11> hey guys, is it possible to use the pandaboard with a bluetooth keyboard / mouse
  468. [16:32:37] <nhg> Ori: what's the issue?
  469. [16:32:46] <nhg> lnx11: yes...should be possible
  470. [16:34:19] <lnx11> i'm thinking about to use the PB into a HTPC
  471. [16:34:39] <nhg> I've also used it with a USB wireless keyboard/mouse
  472. [16:34:46] <nhg> cool
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  474. [16:35:50] <lnx11> but ih there is already bluetooth on that board it were pretty cool to use a BT keyboard/mouse
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  477. [16:48:59] <nhg> yes board has BT/WLAN support
  478. [16:49:31] <nhg> with the WL1271 based TiWi module from LSR
  479. [16:50:31] <nhg> I believe some folks in this forum may have gotten a BT keyboard/mouse to work
  480. [16:52:12] * orbarron thinks nhg scared off lnx11
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  483. [16:54:38] <av500> nhg: you pinged me last night?
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  485. [16:55:30] <nhg> av500: yeah...nothing important
  486. [16:55:35] <av500> k
  487. [16:55:39] <nhg> thanks
  488. [16:55:42] <av500> np
  489. [16:55:58] <av500> I was just cleaning query windows
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  495. [17:09:29] <Gina> does anyone know if the panda boards that came from digikey are ES2.0 or ES2.1 silicon?
  496. [17:10:02] <av500> 2.1
  497. [17:10:08] <av500> they better be 2.1
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  499. [17:10:55] <orbarron> Gina: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/PandaBoard_Revisions
  500. [17:13:38] * nhg wondering if prpplague is around
  501. [17:14:06] <orbarron> nhg: nope..
  502. [17:14:44] <av500> gone drinking that rum again?
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  504. [17:15:32] <nhg> maybe
  505. [17:16:54] <orbarron> hahaha
  506. [17:18:40] <Gina> orbarron: thanks
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  534. [19:02:36] <rs_> are the datasheets for omap4 open?
  535. [19:03:00] <mru> no
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  537. [19:03:09] <mru> partial TRM is open
  538. [19:03:12] <mru> not the datasheet
  539. [19:03:14] <topfs2> mru: you'll be happy to know I finally got a monitor now :)
  540. [19:03:14] <mru> it's stupid
  541. [19:03:24] <topfs2> my roomate apperantly had one I could buy cheap of him ;)
  542. [19:04:42] <rs_> i want to use the venc part. is there any different from what is there on omap3?
  543. [19:05:17] <robclark> koen / mru: fyi, I found the problem w/ latest h264dec vs big buck bunny clip..
  544. [19:05:26] <rs_> is there a dss subsystem for omap4 like there was one in omap3
  545. [19:05:28] <mru> rs_: that's covered in the public trm iirc
  546. [19:05:38] <mru> dss is similar to omap3 but has some extra features
  547. [19:05:41] <rs_> i mean software like tomi's
  548. [19:05:43] <robclark> I had something wrong in my buffer padding calculation.. and mru probably just copied my mistake
  549. [19:05:57] <mru> robclark: tell more
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  551. [19:05:58] <rs_> venc is same? i need to see. let me check
  552. [19:06:04] <av500> rs_: similar
  553. [19:06:23] <av500> omap4 is an evolution of omap3 dss
  554. [19:06:28] <robclark> mru: it seems padding calculation should be applied *after* rounding up to even number of macroblocks
  555. [19:06:38] <mru> makes sense
  556. [19:06:50] <mru> it did strike me as slightly odd the way it was done
  557. [19:06:57] <robclark> so clips that are say, 1080 lines high, would exhibit this issue
  558. [19:07:06] <robclark> but if it was 1088 lines, it would be fine ;-)
  559. [19:07:23] <mru> 1080 is always coded as 1088
  560. [19:07:25] <mru> it has to be
  561. [19:07:32] <robclark> yup
  562. [19:07:47] <rs_> mru: is this the latest one: http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/OMAP4430_ES2.x_Public_TRM_vK.zip
  563. [19:08:04] <mru> vN is the latest
  564. [19:08:38] <rs_> where are these listed?
  565. [19:08:49] <mru> http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbudocumentcenter.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12667
  566. [19:09:00] <mru> but good luck finding that page through "official channels"
  567. [19:10:03] <rs_> which page? the page listing the trm?
  568. [19:10:11] <rs_> or the page in the trm?
  569. [19:10:18] <mru> the link I posted
  570. [19:10:48] <rs_> am already lost!
  571. [19:10:52] <rs_> thanks mru
  572. [19:11:35] <koen> robclark: give http://peach.themazzone.com/durian/movies/sintel-2048-surround.mp4 a try as well
  573. [19:12:51] <robclark> koen: I need to check if the codec is still limiting width to 1920.. or if it will allow 2k wide
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  575. [19:13:35] <robclark> I know I checked a while back with omx, and that clip wouldn't play.. but I don't remember if it was due to codec sillyness or omx sillyness
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  577. [19:14:56] * av500 guesses both
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  580. [19:22:21] <Gina> I built the x-loader from the top of the tree omap4_dev, so it should have 400 MHz DDR support ... is there any way to confirm that my ES2.1 Panda is now running with 400 MHz DDR?
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  582. [19:25:15] <mru> there's a tool somewhere that will measure the ddr clock
  583. [19:26:05] <Gina> mru: on omappedia somewhere?
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  587. [19:33:03] <robclark> Gina: http://neuromancer.dal.design.ti.com/~robclark/omap4_emifspeed (sorry for the internal link)
  588. [19:33:09] <robclark> that will tell you EMIF speed..
  589. [19:33:14] <robclark> 2x for DDR speed
  590. [19:33:25] <robclark> (credit goes to mru)
  591. [19:33:40] <mru> it will probably print 199 instead of 200 due to integer rounding
  592. [19:33:55] <av500> robclark: link does not work
  593. [19:34:12] <robclark> av500: sorry, internal link.. I don't have anywhere handy to put it publically
  594. [19:34:16] <Gina> robclark, mru: thanks!
  595. [19:34:18] <av500> wikileaks?
  596. [19:34:26] <robclark> heheh
  597. [19:34:56] <robclark> well, it is same program that mru posted some time back.. I'm guessing there probably is still a link to it somewhere..
  598. [19:35:51] <mru> someone put it on one of the wikis
  599. [19:35:58] <mru> but I can't remember which one
  600. [19:36:30] <robclark> yeah.. too many wikis
  601. [19:36:38] <mru> and they leak
  602. [19:36:43] <av500> we should have a wiki that keeps track of them
  603. [19:37:15] <mru> and another to track the tracker wikis
  604. [19:38:04] <av500> maybe we can make that distributed p2p engine based?
  605. [19:38:30] <robclark> oh dear
  606. [19:38:56] <mru> reindeer?
  607. [19:39:03] <mru> it's that season, no?
  608. [19:39:31] <mru> or in some parts of the world, raindeer
  609. [19:39:44] <robclark> grandma got run over by one
  610. [19:40:14] <mru> it was driving a car?
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  612. [19:40:20] <mru> was she pulling a sleigh?
  613. [19:40:42] <robclark> heheh, I think that's how the song goes
  614. [19:40:52] <mru> and aren't they supposed to fly?
  615. [19:40:57] <mru> it's pigs that don't fly
  616. [19:41:06] <mru> and sheep, at least according to monty python
  617. [19:41:35] <robclark> heheh
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  619. [19:44:50] <Gina> robclark, mru: hmm ... the tool just outputs 100 MHz. It looks like somehow the changes for 400MHz DDR didn't take effect. Anything I need to change other than the x-loader?
  620. [19:45:07] <mru> 100 is definitely wrong
  621. [19:45:18] <robclark> should just be x-loader.. that and having a es2.1
  622. [19:45:19] <av500> Gina: just pick the right xloader
  623. [19:45:30] <av500> robclark: and the right resistors?
  624. [19:45:39] <mru> av500: got a monte carlo method for that too?
  625. [19:45:47] <mru> resistors don't matter
  626. [19:45:53] <av500> mru: sure, your tool and cat /dev/random > MLO
  627. [19:45:54] <mru> it checks the id register
  628. [19:45:57] <robclark> I don't think x-loaders uses the board revision gpio's
  629. [19:45:59] <av500> mru: iknow :)
  630. [19:46:27] <Gina> hmm ... I am using this patch in the x-loader: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=bootloader/x-loader.git;a=commit;h=6617cda3b1685e2eb06bab13f5b2dc7b0c9b2dae and it should be an ES2.1 panda according to the link orbarron sent
  631. [19:47:00] <av500> patch looks ok
  632. [19:47:02] <robclark> Gina: that commit won't do it
  633. [19:47:10] <robclark> panda has, or at least used to have, it's own board file
  634. [19:47:23] <robclark> so the same change would be needed in omap4430panda.c
  635. [19:47:23] <Gina> ah
  636. [19:47:28] <av500> ah, sdp, right
  637. [19:48:03] <robclark> some refactoring necessary.. panda and sdp really should share a lot more common xloader code than they do
  638. [19:49:06] <av500> maybe xloader needs a device tree?
  639. [19:49:37] <robclark> umm.. let's hope not
  640. [19:49:44] <robclark> but maybe an omap4430common.c
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  647. [20:03:12] <armin76> guerby: i also get out of ram, but nothing has failed on me because it couldn't allocate memory
  648. [20:03:37] <armin76> guerby: for some reason the memory is cached and doesn't free it, and then dmesg is full of out of mem
  649. [20:04:10] <armin76> since you're running ubuntu i'm sure they'll fix it
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  651. [20:04:25] <armin76> then we'll have to wait 6 months to get a patch for other kernels
  652. [20:05:40] <armin76> jayabharath: robclark: the l2 patch is still not on kernel-omap4...
  653. [20:07:12] <robclark> armin76: apparently you should be able to submit kernel patches via http://review.omapzoom.org/#project,open,kernel/omap,n,z
  654. [20:08:24] <armin76> mru: ^
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  656. [20:11:00] <av500> l2 patch is in my kernel :)
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  660. [20:18:12] <Gina> robclark, mru: I tried adding 400MHz support to omap4430panda.c, but it didn't work. any other ideas? is there a better place to get the MLO source for Panda ES2.1?
  661. [20:19:10] <robclark> the latest L24.11 x-loader really still doesn't have 2.1 updates for panda?
  662. [20:19:20] <mru> this one is known to work: http://gitorious.org/~rsalveti/pandaboard/rsalveti-x-loader/commits/omap4_panda_es2.1
  663. [20:19:45] <robclark> yeah, use rsalveti's if the "official" one still misses panda support
  664. [20:20:14] <rsalveti> robclark: I got the patch from sebjan that adds the panda support at the tree, but don't know if he sent it to the maintainer of that tree
  665. [20:21:15] <rsalveti> will check with him tomorrow and if now I can just forward it
  666. [20:21:21] <rsalveti> *if not
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  670. [20:29:57] <Gina> rsalveti: I tried the x-loader from your tree on my ES2.1 panda board, but I get "Error: reading boot sector. Could not read bootloader!" anything I missed?
  671. [20:30:31] <rsalveti> Gina: just to be sure, can you recreate the first sd partition?
  672. [20:30:51] <rsalveti> backup your files, recreated it with mkfs.vfat -F 32 and then copy the files back
  673. [20:32:47] <Gina> rsalveti: hmm .. same issue ... I synced to commit ID 9e4650a and built with omap4430panda_config
  674. [20:33:39] <rsalveti> Gina: hm, it should work fine
  675. [20:34:19] <robclark> actually, rsalveti's MLO should be more likely to work fine.. I don't think the patch to fix hard-coded sector is on dev.omapzoom.org tree
  676. [20:34:42] <rsalveti> robclark: yeah, it's there already
  677. [20:34:58] <av500> how fast a year passes :)
  678. [20:35:20] <rsalveti> http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=bootloader/x-loader.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap4_dev
  679. [20:35:33] <rsalveti> the only missing patch is to properly support panda es2.1
  680. [20:36:01] <robclark> ahh, yeah.. it does seem like there has been some recent activity
  681. [20:37:04] <rsalveti> robclark: Gina: http://paste.ubuntu.com/544171/ the patch from sebjan
  682. [20:37:55] <Gina> ah, thanks
  683. [20:38:19] <Gina> so I should just be able to add that to the top of the omap4_dev branch of the main x-loader tree to get 400MHz support for Panda ES2.1?
  684. [20:38:53] <rsalveti> actually use this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/544172/, the other doesn't apply fine
  685. [20:39:04] <rsalveti> Gina: yup
  686. [20:39:19] <rsalveti> but my tree should have worked for you
  687. [20:39:26] <rsalveti> but you can try this tree if you want
  688. [20:39:52] <Gina> yeah ... not sure why it didn't :( probably some stupid mistake on my end. let me try the main tree with your patch now
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  691. [20:52:51] <Gina> rsalveti, robclark: I added that patch to the x-loader mainline tree and now omap4_emifspeed shows 200 MHz, so it looks good - thanks!
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  693. [20:54:29] <robclark> excellent
  694. [20:54:53] <robclark> koen: btw, sintel clip plays fine
  695. [20:55:06] <av500> \\\ooo///
  696. [20:55:10] <koen> robclark: nice!
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  698. [20:55:35] <koen> robclark: I'll pull in the dce changes tomorrow
  699. [20:55:52] <robclark> ok.. I'll probably even push them before then ;-)
  700. [20:55:59] <robclark> no libdce changes, only gst-ducati
  701. [20:56:13] <robclark> (well.. I guess I should update the test app in libdce..)
  702. [20:58:13] <mru> av500: are you one of these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SJ0xR2_bQ#t=110s
  703. [20:58:55] <av500> mru: "This video is not available in your country...."
  704. [20:59:05] <koen> robclark: have a patch for omapfbplay :)
  705. [20:59:12] <mru> av500: then you'll have to imagine what it is
  706. [20:59:22] <av500> no thanks
  707. [20:59:38] <mru> remember sir robin?
  708. [21:00:02] <robclark> brave sir robin
  709. [21:00:13] * av500 is lost
  710. [21:00:32] <mru> robclark: the one and only
  711. [21:00:58] <robclark> av500 should watch more monte python
  712. [21:01:20] <av500> ah
  713. [21:01:20] <mru> as should robclark, then perhaps he'd learn how to spell it
  714. [21:01:39] <av500> mru: he's excempt
  715. [21:01:53] * robclark spel's gud
  716. [21:01:55] <mru> av500: as are you, apparently
  717. [21:02:02] <av500> mru: :)
  718. [21:02:13] <av500> i learn engrish good!
  719. [21:03:42] <eFfeM> av500: go back play with your pandaborat ;-)
  720. [21:04:05] <av500> can't, it's out there insulting people
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